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Matchstickshooter · « **on:** April 24, 2019, 08:12:55 PM »

Today I mounted a new scope to an air rifle. Haven't gotten a chance to try it out yet.
But I came up with a question. I dug the scales out and weighed myself. Stepped off, grabbed my rifle,and stepped back on.

Whoa! Wonder if I'll be able to shoot off hand... this baby weighs 9.6 pounds! This is a Winchester 1100 springer.

How much does your air rifle weigh?

maraudinglizard · « **Reply #1 on:** April 24, 2019, 08:22:23 PM »

Most of my guns average around 9 lbs to 11 lbs with the scope on. I use a bench or tripod to shoot from, off hand is out for me.

Duckfish · « **Reply #2 on:** April 24, 2019, 08:53:44 PM »

Here is a couple I shoot offhand

Duckfish · « **Reply #3 on:** April 24, 2019, 08:58:33 PM »

Pistols are fun offhand

A.K.A. Tommy Boy · « **Reply #4 on:** April 24, 2019, 09:14:39 PM »

I shoot all of my guns off-hand at times. Some are 11 1/2 Lbs or so. I don't try and hold the rifle on target for any extended time.
What I do is see and fix on the target then slowly rase the rifle. As the Cross Hair of the scope are alleging on the target I am squeezing the trigger. I do this all in one fluid motion and the rifle gets fired as soon as the Cross Hairs have aligned on the Hunting Target.
Anyway.... that's just what I do and it works for me. I find that if the gun is held too long on target then there is unwanted motion.

The Hatsan Edges are really good for this type of shooting and so is the Crosman Summit Ranger. The Sheridan Silver Streak does this nicely too.

Best Wishes - Tom

Matchstickshooter · « **Reply #5 on:** April 24, 2019, 11:04:34 PM »

Quote from: maraudinglizard on April 24, 2019, 08:22:23 PM

Most of my guns average around 9 lbs to 11 lbs with the scope on. I use a bench or tripod to shoot from, off hand is out for me.

Sounds like a plan!

Thanks everyone!

bantam5s · « **Reply #6 on:** April 25, 2019, 01:16:48 AM »

My pumpers are all between 3 and 6 lb I believe, so maybe I've got it easy

I should probably weight the American boy I just built.

Mossonarock · « **Reply #7 on:** April 25, 2019, 09:50:04 AM »

My nerves don't allow me to shoot accurately off hand no matter how light a rifle is.
$:-\$

So, I have to shoot from a stable rest.

I do practice sighting off hand with my Hatsan Edge but I don't shoot it off hand.
Just sighting, I can do that in my house.

19Sheridan57 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 25, 2019, 09:51:44 AM »

Quote from: bantam5s on April 25, 2019, 01:16:48 AM

My pumpers are all between 3 and 6 lb I believe, so maybe I've got it easy

I should probably weight the American boy I just built.

I LOVE that about the pumpers !

bantam5s · « **Reply #9 on:** April 25, 2019, 01:44:41 PM »

Quote from: 19Sheridan57 on April 25, 2019, 09:51:44 AM

Quote from: bantam5s on April 25, 2019, 01:16:48 AM
My pumpers are all between 3 and 6 lb I believe, so maybe I've got it easy

I should probably weight the American boy I just built.

I LOVE that about the pumpers !

Absolutely.

Thane · « **Reply #10 on:** April 25, 2019, 03:28:40 PM »

My lite weight rifle is a Stormrider @ 5 lbs 13 oz with UTG 3x12 1" Bugbuster, a feather.

Heavy weight is my Hatsan Bullboss with scope is over 10 lbs, long and heavy.

bantam5s · « **Reply #11 on:** April 25, 2019, 04:02:00 PM »

Till I get a rear sight I've got this scope on the American boy, and with that it weighs 4lb 10oz.

fwbsport · « **Reply #12 on:** April 25, 2019, 04:48:45 PM »

Quote from: maraudinglizard on April 24, 2019, 08:22:23 PM

Most of my guns average around 9 lbs to 11 lbs with the scope on. I use a bench or tripod to shoot from, off hand is out for me.

Off hand is the only way I shoot all springers--mine all are generally light and solid enough to manage this, but adding the scope and mounts always re-balances the rifle to another center of gravity toward the shooter.

Yes I know shooting off hand is the least accurate way of sighting in a rifle but when you realize you are always in off hand position while hunting and moving you never have the time or place to move a bench rested heavy rifle into position to shoot moving targets.

I'd add a thought along the way to all pellet rifle shooters beginning the learning experience: If you find a fast way to fire accurately (fast = standing or off hand for the pellet rifle to fire and reload and fire again) then stick to that technique and get rid of the rifle rests and benches. The field is no place to drag a bench table or benched target rifle with a high power scope!

If you deny the chances to own a good off hand shooting pellet rifle by ignoring shooting the lightest I have (R7) you will lose a whole field of shooting that comes upon you spontaneously.

Just my opinion at age 61 and starting air guns in 1966.

Duckfish · « **Reply #13 on:** April 25, 2019, 05:29:56 PM »

Hey John Carr, not to hijack this but I see you have a Beeman Falcon. Is it a C or a R model?

fwbsport · « **Reply #14 on:** April 25, 2019, 05:47:12 PM »

Quote from: Duckfish on April 25, 2019, 05:29:56 PM

Hey John Carr, not to hijack this but I see you have a Beeman Falcon. Is it a C or a R model?

Falcon R-s

It's light and very steady to hold in any position. Want it?

fwbsport · « **Reply #15 on:** April 25, 2019, 05:53:32 PM »

Come to think of it I'll send my "broken" PCPs to others interested in reworking them. All had air holding problems getting them down to below the hammer strike level. They won't pump up anymore.

The HM 1000 .22 is still holding fine--might as well mention it. Don't really want it either since I like my HW50 .22 more.

Send PMs and I will be ready to send these rifles to prospective owners to deal with!

List of PCP rifles I am wanting to let go to a better PCP person:

Theoben Rapid .25
TM 1000 .177
Falcon Rs .25
HM 1000 .22
FX Boss .30
Crossman Silhouette .177 Match Pistol

archellas · « **Reply #16 on:** April 25, 2019, 06:35:09 PM »

The lightest (Prod) weighs in at under 7 lbs fully dressed.
Most of the rest are between 8.5 and 11 lbs ...
But the Bullboss comes in at almost 12 lbs!!!!!
Everything is scoped, longer guns also have bipods, and maybe even a flashlight.

fwbsport · « **Reply #17 on:** April 25, 2019, 06:54:22 PM »

The Crossman 1701P is taken!

Cross that Crossman PCP off the list.

Novagun · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2019, 07:02:42 PM »

My HW77 Carbine weighs 9.5 lbs. The scope weighs 1.5 so all up 11 lbs. It is a bit heavy but not to bad. It would be irksome if carrying it about for some hours.
The weight absorbs some of the recoil and makes for a nice shooting cycle.
I took the scope off because I wanted to go back to open sights, just for a change. The rifle is lighter but still heavy. Accuracy is just the same. By that I mean not the inherent accuracy of the gun but the combination of gun and shooter.
I find that interesting because the 1.5 lbs of scope when fitted is well above the axis of the movement of spring and piston. That axis is also above the butt contact with the shoulder. I was expecting the recoil with the different centre of gravity of the rifle to be noticeable. I find no noticeable difference. Accuracy is just as good and the feel of the gun is just the same.

Two things have changed. First the clarity if target has diminshed by 12X. Second, there is new fun in the change of sighting.

A.K.A. Tommy Boy · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2019, 07:44:26 PM »

Quote from: fwbsport on April 25, 2019, 04:48:45 PM

Quote from: maraudinglizard on April 24, 2019, 08:22:23 PM
Most of my guns average around 9 lbs to 11 lbs with the scope on. I use a bench or tripod to shoot from, off hand is out for me.

Off hand is the only way I shoot all springers--mine all are generally light and solid enough to manage this, but adding the scope and mounts always re-balances the rifle to another center of gravity toward the shooter.

Yes I know shooting off hand is the least accurate way of sighting in a rifle but when you realize you are always in off hand position while hunting and moving you never have the time or place to move a bench rested heavy rifle into position to shoot moving targets.

I'd add a thought along the way to all pellet rifle shooters beginning the learning experience: If you find a fast way to fire accurately (fast = standing or off hand for the pellet rifle to fire and reload and fire again) then stick to that technique and get rid of the rifle rests and benches. The field is no place to drag a bench table or benched target rifle with a high power scope!

If you deny the chances to own a good off hand shooting pellet rifle by ignoring shooting the lightest I have (R7) you will lose a whole field of shooting that comes upon you spontaneously.

Just my opinion at age 61 and starting air guns in 1966.

John Very Well Said Sir ! I'm with you 100% on your reply.

Like you.... I mostly use my air guns to hunt with. I am not much of a paper target shooter. I shoot paper to zero my scopes and to recheck zero before hunting but that is usually it.

If I am out in the woods hunting I will use whatever is available out there, to brace my fore-stock hand while shooting, if possible. Many times I shoot unsupported and off-hand because the hunting situation requires it. I do not have a shooting bench. I practice shooting in a manner that I would encounter afield hunting. I sometimes will shoot with the palm of my off-hand braced on a tree trunk and the fore-stock of the rifle resting in the V formed between my fingers and thumb of my outstretched off hand. Other times I will shoot kneeling with one leg up and my off hand elbow resting on the up leg. The rifle will again be resting in the V formed between my fingers and thumb of the off-hand. I do not grip the fore stock while shooting. If I am standing and shooting unsupported off-hand, I cup the fore-stock of the rifle with my off-hand but do not grip the fore-stock.

Anyway that is just what I do and it works out very well for me as a hunter.

I do realize others may differentiate on this topic and that is What Is So Great About Shooting Air Guns..........
There is room for all types of guns and all types of shooting styles......
Yes Sir....There Is Room For All Of US.

Best Wishes - Tom

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General question about weight

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