My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )



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My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« on: February 15, 2019, 11:30:20 PM »
I installed the Mac1 Mount, put on rings and installed a Butt Stock Pouch !!! The scout/handgun scope arrives on Tue the 19th :-  )

I will shoot her tomorrow after I give her a good oiling, as of right now she feels a little rough and not oiled from the factory.

I will use a Q Tip and acetone to get any paint out of the barrel. The gun feels very nice and solid for sure. From the looks of the scout mount, It will be very fast target acquisition for sure, a real plus !!!!

I may make some parts modifications although they may not improve velocity, but will improve the guns longevity !

Here is a pic sans scope done this evening. More info to come tomorrow after shooting ;- )



BTW:  What is the best way to move the rear sight up another 2 inches without scratching the barrel ??

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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2019, 11:58:23 PM »
What a beautiful looking rifle! Congrats.

I wish I could enjoy pumpers like some people do.  I just enjoy Springer a lot more.  I don't know why. It can't be the rate of fire because I love shooting muzzleloaders and a muzzleloader is much much slower to shoot than a pumper.
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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2019, 12:14:54 AM »
I think you will find that you need a slight comb riser.

Glad you like the gun.
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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2019, 01:37:47 AM »
Hhhmmm, I posted earllier on the original thread that got moved here, donít know what happened to the post lol, but here goes again.

Congrats on your new 392. Itís looking good the way your setting it up.

Gotta ask though lol, is the front sight on yours straight, or does it lean to one side?
The reason I ask is that mine has a slight lean to the left.
I was hoping thatís been corrected along with the paint overspray in the bore on the latest ones?

I removed my rear sight with a wood dowel for a punch and a rubber hammer. I drove it backwards an inch or two till it popped off.
It didínt scratch the paint on my bbl., but I wouldínt guarantee that it wonít on the next one lol.

Think iím Going to switch my scope base to the mac1 like yours.
Iíve got the high over the breech inter mounts on mine. They work, but I had to mount the scope as far back over the stock as I could to get a good cheek weld.

Looking forward to some accuracy reports on yours.
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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2019, 08:28:27 AM »
William.......That Is Very Nice Rifle !    ;)    You are going to have a good hunting & shooting set up.



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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2019, 09:21:34 AM »
I use the Sheridan hand guard to position the Mac1 mount. this give you just the right amount of eye relief for a pistol scope & the right position for your free hand while cycling the gun. 

It's best to remove the rear sight all together. Best done by using a narrow piece of hardwood & a rubber mallet or a finish hammer with caution. Tap on the rear sight until the metal shims clear.
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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2019, 01:22:03 PM »
Well removal of the rear sight was OK, but I did not realize there are two shims underneath the rear sight itself keeping things tight.



After removing the rear sight and giving the gun a good going over with some Mac1 Secret Sauce, she seems a bit smoother ... this gun was dry as a bone coming from Crosman (where I ordered it from last Friday). I also moved the scope mount about 2 inches forward and this should give me a good hold while pumping, really looking forward to getting the scope this upcoming Tuesday, and yes, this little gun takes some pumping power ... it is no Daisy 880 for sure ;-  )

I'm playing with the gun indoors so I have no chrno that will work and my small airgun barrel chrno won't fit on the Benji barrel pump tube guns.

Going back to playing with her some more.

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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2019, 01:30:52 PM »
^^^Piece of cake ha? Just wait til you have to remove the two roll pins at the muzzle end. That'll test your nerves. ;)
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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2019, 02:27:41 PM »
^^^Piece of cake ha? Just wait til you have to remove the two roll pins at the muzzle end. That'll test your nerves. ;)

Test my nerves ... What nerves ? They say patients is a virtue, well guess what, I have no patients or virtue ;- )

While we are on the subject of my nerves ;- ) . what low mount rings are you guys using, the low mount rings I have are not that low, so I just bought some lower ones, but the lowest are the low Picatinny rings but I don't want to spend the $ for the small adapter to fit the 3/8" dovetail..

What rings do you guys use ?

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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2019, 02:39:16 PM »
These in medium will get you as low as you need to go.
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Daisy's;
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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2019, 03:42:01 PM »
These in medium will get you as low as you need to go.

Thank you Marty ;- )

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2019, 03:54:09 PM »
No problem. Their a bit pricey although there is quite a range in price on the bay. Shop around for the lowest price. What me & others have said about the Mac1 mount; "None better", applies here as well to these rings... IMHO.   
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Dan's;
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Daisy's;
Most notable- 2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, 2-Golden Boys & 4 Golden Spikes, Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35, Model 1894's; RME, Win, Spittin Image, Limited Edition, 2-BBS, 2-NRA, Wells Fargo, Sealed Box 1894, 880's; 20th Anniv, Silver Anniv, Eldorado, & '71 model. Red Ryder signed by David Sanders, & 2 Pony Express.
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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2019, 06:15:35 PM »
The rollpins are a beast to remove.  I drove them out with a hammer and punch.  Took a WHACK to get them started.  You need to do this soon and clean the pumptube.  Other than those darn pins, the gun is easy to break-down.


That's cool the sights can be removed.  However, after reading the original thread, I dumped my scope and went back to the stock sights.  At 10 yards today, I was popping paintballs; at 15 yards, I was driving them through a 1" hole.  I added some white paint to my sights to help with vision.

Can anyone tell me the effect of moving the sights fore/aft?  Is there some rule of thumb when setting up movable sights like these?

1.  Pump gun 8 times
2.  Dry-fire gun
3.  Dry-fire again

There should be *no* air from the gun on the second shot.  If there is, you aren't "dumping all the air".  Mine will take 7 pumps; others report 10+ pumps.  If you get a full dump of 8 pumps, you can try additional pumps till you stop getting a full dump.


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Gotta ask though lol, is the front sight on yours straight, or does it lean to one side?
The reason I ask is that mine has a slight lean to the left.
I was hoping thatís been corrected along with the paint overspray in the bore on the latest ones?

My sights are straight.  Still had overspray.
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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2019, 08:16:29 PM »
I like your set up and the wood grain on your gun looks nice ! :o....
My scope set up ..like I said , I like shooting the gun with the open sights , I took it off and made some adjustments so it dos not crack the solder....
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2019, 08:28:30 PM »

Gotta ask though lol, is the front sight on yours straight, or does it lean to one side?
The reason I ask is that mine has a slight lean to the left.

Sorry I did not answer earlier :-(

No, my rear sight blade was perfectly level.

I may reinstall after I find the scope mount position in case the scope should go south in a time of need :-)

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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2019, 09:36:48 PM »
After using "Secret Sauce" and shooting about 15+ shots the gun is pumping and shooting nice, but I have a question ? Even though I lubed all the moving parts and the piston seal, I did put a small drop of "Sauce" in the air vent hole, not anywhere near the amount that would clog the valve, but a drop to fully coat the compression walls. I pumped the gun up a few times with the barrel facing down to minimize oil getting into the valve and shot her a few times.  The pumping was much, much smoother after I did that !

Anyone else put a drop or two into the air hole and then work the gun ?

Just want your guys opinions ?

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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2019, 11:47:12 PM »
After using "Secret Sauce" and shooting about 15+ shots the gun is pumping and shooting nice, but I have a question ? Even though I lubed all the moving parts and the piston seal, I did put a small drop of "Sauce" in the air vent hole, not anywhere near the amount that would clog the valve, but a drop to fully coat the compression walls. I pumped the gun up a few times with the barrel facing down to minimize oil getting into the valve and shot her a few times.  The pumping was much, much smoother after I did that !

Anyone else put a drop or two into the air hole and then work the gun ?
Just want your guys opinions ?

wll
  Yes every year /6 months depending on use..6 drops in front uf the pump cup..then dry fire with 2/3 pumps.. 6 /7 times to get most of the oil out of the valve..you want some oil in there or it will corrode inside the valve..crosman switched back to a  brass valve ,the aluminum valve corroded vary fast ..what you don't want to do is put oil in there then pump it up to much or  fire a pellet. this can damage the valve. How I don't know somthing to do with air displacement and oil igniting under pressure..

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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2019, 12:51:07 PM »
Put on an old, but very good Bushnell 4 x12 and played around. Well, the traditional scope mounting system with a rifle scope IMHO is not the way to go, glad I decided on the scout type system ....  pumping it like this is a PITA for sure ;- ) I'm SOOOO looking forward to Tuesday when the scout scope arrives ;- )

She shot pretty well and she is getting the "burrs" knocked off the rough edges a bit. I think I will grind off the bolt de-cocking block on the trigger, as I always used to cock the gun pump her up, put a pellet in and then de-cock the gun before I went into the woods ... To me it was much, much safer then a safety and it uncompressed the hammer spring.

Here she is by the bathroom door, waiting to go to the bathroom ;-  )



Here is a pic of a three shot group from 15yds with Piranhas, 3 pumps .. not the best, but OK for the conditions I was in with a makeshift chair rest ;- ) 

The white dot is 7/16" Shot at 4 power as more power really narrows the view as the eye relief is short. Shot into Duct Seal.



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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2019, 03:23:31 PM »
Put on an old, but very good Bushnell 4 x12 and played around. Well, the traditional scope mounting system with a rifle scope IMHO is not the way to go, glad I decided on the scout type system ....  pumping it like this is a PITA for sure ;- ) I'm SOOOO looking forward to Tuesday when the scout scope arrives ;- )
That pretty much sums it up. The only thing I had to get use to after using the traditional mounts all these years on my powder burners was the field of view. That didn't take long though. Now the traditional scopes seem odd. ;)

I have to ask; what on earth is that back stop you shot into?
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), '90 342 (non checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
Several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, H9 & H9A, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams.
Daisy's;
Most notable- 2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, 2-Golden Boys & 4 Golden Spikes, Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35, Model 1894's; RME, Win, Spittin Image, Limited Edition, 2-BBS, 2-NRA, Wells Fargo, Sealed Box 1894, 880's; 20th Anniv, Silver Anniv, Eldorado, & '71 model. Red Ryder signed by David Sanders, & 2 Pony Express.
Crosman;
'49 101
Favorite everyday backyard plinker '71 880. Easy to pump & the sweetest modified trigger.

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Re: My Benjamin 392 Arrived ;- )
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2019, 04:16:50 PM »
Put on an old, but very good Bushnell 4 x12 and played around. Well, the traditional scope mounting system with a rifle scope IMHO is not the way to go, glad I decided on the scout type system ....  pumping it like this is a PITA for sure ;- ) I'm SOOOO looking forward to Tuesday when the scout scope arrives ;- )
That pretty much sums it up. The only thing I had to get use to after using the traditional mounts all these years on my powder burners was the field of view. That didn't take long though. Now the traditional scopes seem odd. ;)

I have to ask; what on earth is that back stop you shot into?

That is Duct Seal.. I have about 12ea 1 lb sticks that are in a large baking tray and use stick on dots as targets. The Duct Seal stops pellets in their tracks and makes no sound. You can shoot in your house forever, just pull the pellets out after about 20 shots or so and push the seal around to make the surface a bit even and fill in the pellet holes. This target has been shot a whole bunch.

I like it for use when I need a target where the pellets are not going to splatter, bounce out or ricochet... like in my office building.

This target is about 2" thick and will stop a 800fps 22 cal gun at 15 or so yds if you changed your aiming point after a couple of rounds. I would not use it for my Airforce Condors or my 22 cal Career's ... these are powerful guns and for outside use only. I use mine for guns up to 700 fps with no problem .. I mostly use it if I can't get outside and want to get my sights lined up.

It is used a lot for 177 cal target guys shooting 10m in there basement ... nice an quiet.

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