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Showing Different Pellets & Different Holds (pics)
« on: February 11, 2019, 12:13:45 AM »
Members, today I was shooting my .177cal Air Arms Prosport at 35yds.  Now I already know/have her preferred pellet which is the Air Arms Field Diabolo 8.4gr which shoots at 785fps and incredibly accurate as well.  In 2nd place is the jsb express 7.87gr shooting @ 823fps but after today I may have to reevaluate her  second choice in the jsb 7.87, lol. 

Today?  Well lets just say it was  a cold 34 degrees and a light 7mph wind.  I kept going in and out the house to warm up.  Man o man my fingers were numb. 
The pellets that were used today were JSB 10gr, JSB 7.87gr, H&N Baracuda, Berman Kodiak and CPL 7.9gr Brown Box.
There were 3 different (holds) places that I placed the rifle on.
1) SS (Stock Screws); The front stock screws is where I placed the front rest at.  "SS" is the abbreviation on the target so you know where the rifle was while being shot 
2) 4F (Four Fingers); This means that the rifle is placed on the rest four "4" fingers away from the trigger guard
3) 8F (Eight Fingers); This means that the rifle is placed on the rest eight "8" fingers away from the trigger guard.

JSB 10.34gr; 4F= 13/16", .63" ctc; SS= 7/8", .69" ctc

JSB 7.87gr; 4F= 7/16", .26" ctc, 8F= 11/16", .51" ctc, SS= 3/4", .57" ctc

H&N Baracuda 10.6gr; 4F= 15/16" (FYI: Sub group .26"ctc), .76" ctc, 8F= 5/8", .44" ctc, SS= POINTLESS

Beeman Kodiak 10.? gr; 4F= 1/2", .323 ctc, 8F= 15/16", .76" ctc, SS= 7/8", .69" ctc

CPL Domed Brown Box 7.9gr; 4F= 5/8"(if you minus 1 flyer its 3/8" and .19" ctc), .44ctc, 8F= 5/16", .13" ctc (WHOA), SS= 1/2", .323" ctc

The first measurement was outside to outside and the measurement after that is the groups center to center

All shooting was done from a little orange fold out table with a Caldwell front and rear rest (And yes, yes, I know the story...some springers don't shoot well off a rest, use the artillery hold and yada, yada, yada. I appreciate it but lets put that on the back burner for another day)

Now if the weather was warmer, believe me, this "testing" of pellets and holds would've been more clean and in depth.  Meaning that i would've tried holds in 1" increments from trigger guard onward and I would have been more patient in taking shots and not worrying about the temperature or trying to get stuff finished before losing the sunlight.

One thing I did notice was that she didn't seem to care for the heavier pellets except for the Beeman Kodiaks.  That goes to tell you that when others say that H&N's FTT's, Baracudas are the same as Beeman FTS and Kodiaks, that they are wrong.  Just like Air Arms Diabolo's and JSB's.  I have and still get noticeable different POI.  Well thats talk for another time.  Here are some pics and hopefully with my description of the holds above that you can understand what I am doing and where the rifle was being placed. 

Now for all you “critics” if you don’t have anything positive to say and/or contribute, please refrain from commenting because I don’t got time for that and new or young airgunners/shooters don't need gossip and negative opinions.  And for all you beginners, don’t take what I say as “Gold” or “Law”, but understand that different holds, different pellets do different things for different rifles/pistols and different shooters.  I hope everybody gets a little bit of something from this.  Now go out and shoot. 

Oh yeah, for all those who has ever helped me in my time of being an airgunner, I want to say thanks to all of you.  And you guys know who you are.

most circles are 1/4"-3/8"

Trying to post pics...sorry for the inconvenience









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Re: Showing Different Pellets & Different Holds (pics)
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2019, 07:18:03 PM »
Jay, beautiful rifle and she does have a pellet preference!
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2019, 07:18:40 PM »
Jay, beautiful rifle and she does have a hold and pellet preference!
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2019, 07:20:10 PM »
Sorry..double post!
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Re: Showing Different Pellets & Different Holds (pics)
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2019, 09:03:50 PM »
Very nice shooting with cold fingers!! Fine looking rifle and a nail driver to boot. :D

I find the same thing about resting points on the forearm with Airguns and my powder burners. Has a lot to do with bbl. vibrations vs. the ammo I suppose?
Definitely pays to experiment.
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Re: Showing Different Pellets & Different Holds (pics)
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2019, 09:48:31 PM »
Very nice shooting with cold fingers!! Fine looking rifle and a nail driver to boot. :D

I find the same thing about resting points on the forearm with Airguns and my powder burners. Has a lot to do with bbl. vibrations vs. the ammo I suppose?
Definitely pays to experiment.

Thank you 35shooter for your response and input. Much appreciated
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Re: Showing Different Pellets & Different Holds (pics)
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2019, 11:40:54 PM »
Great Post Jay.   Very Informative.     NICE RIFLE !!!    Thank You.


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Re: Showing Different Pellets & Different Holds (pics)
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2019, 11:04:38 AM »
Thanks for your effort in testing and sharing the results. I started a similar but different test with a Legecy pump with groups at different number of pumps. Looking for a sweet spot with the rifle and one brand pellet. I'll post when I get back to the ranch for some shooting.
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Re: Showing Different Pellets & Different Holds (pics)
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2019, 11:36:54 PM »
Jay, beautiful rifle and she does have a pellet preference!

She loves AA Field Diabolo 8.4
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Re: Showing Different Pellets & Different Holds (pics)
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2019, 11:37:45 PM »
Great Post Jay.   Very Informative.     NICE RIFLE !!!    Thank You.


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Thank you Tom for your response
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Re: Showing Different Pellets & Different Holds (pics)
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2019, 11:38:35 PM »
Thanks for your effort in testing and sharing the results. I started a similar but different test with a Legecy pump with groups at different number of pumps. Looking for a sweet spot with the rifle and one brand pellet. I'll post when I get back to the ranch for some shooting.

Great and I'll be waiting for your results
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