Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?



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Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« on: February 01, 2019, 11:00:36 AM »
Any consensus on this question?
Consensus? On GTA?? HAAAA ... of course not, silly boy.

Okay. Is there any strong evidence that a butt hook that is fitted such that it still allows fore-aft motion during the firing action offers any advantage on a spring-piston WFTF rifle? I've tried cruising photos of European matches to see what's being used at their recoiling rifle meets, but the Google search tends to mix in PCP guns, too.

I'm using an adjustable RAW butt hook and wondered if something more form-fitting over the shoulder would be a good upgrade.
Experiences?
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2019, 09:48:30 PM »
Bob, been shooting FT for about 6 years, and never seen anybody with a hook on a spring gun. I think it would interfere with the natural movement of the gun IMO.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2019, 09:00:11 PM »
I primarIly shoot spring rifle in FT.  They are in use where I shoot FT and according to the guys that use them they like them.  They are also typically our high piston shooters but they were before the butt hook.  I have held off getting one due to cost and it would appear to me I would need to shorten my stock.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2019, 08:32:50 PM »
Matt Brackett (American WFTF shooter) uses a 3D printed over the top arc hook with a under side paddle. I think 2018 AAFTA Piston WFTF Nationals champion Steve English uses one. Some the Canadian WFTF piston shooters use one. Brian Sampson an English WFTF piston shooter designed one that Matt uses. I have one on my PCP but not on my LGU. Itís a matter of personal preference.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2019, 09:54:44 AM »
Thanks, gents.
I appreciate the input.
Good to hear from you all.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2019, 02:29:01 PM »
Have an hw97 and 3d printed my version of a butthook.  Works pretty well.  The lower one is clutched by your armpit and prevents rotation or side to side movement.   I would say listen to your body.  Tinkering on the ergonomics of the gun is like fitting a new set of trousers.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2019, 05:20:21 PM »
Nice rig, Jay!
Yup, understood and agreed.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2019, 07:44:34 PM »
I'm offended by the term " Butt Hooks".
Couldn't we call them something like- "End of Rifle Stock thingie's"?
See how much better that reads?
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2019, 11:33:24 PM »
I'm offended by the term " Butt Hooks".
Couldn't we call them something like- "End of Rifle Stock thingie's"?
See how much better that reads?

Not to mention, I wouldn't recommend doing an internet search for "butt hooks".  Who knows what you'll find  :o
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2019, 11:52:59 PM »
Now that you mention it ... "Butt Hook" simply if one allows there mind to wander, is ... pretty far to the left leaving MUCH to ones ignorant interpretation 
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2019, 10:59:47 AM »
Not to mention, I wouldn't recommend doing an internet search for "butt hooks".  Who knows what you'll find  :o

HAAAA! Youze guys are too funny!
It is a strange term. So I guess we don't want to dwell on the time I shaved my ...
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2019, 11:58:57 AM »
Not to mention, I wouldn't recommend doing an internet search for "butt hooks".  Who knows what you'll find  :o

HAAAA! Youze guys are too funny!
It is a strange term. So I guess we don't want to dwell on the time I shaved my ...
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Wow, you are a brave man trimming that beautiful stock!  You sure did a nice, clean job though.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2019, 03:48:14 PM »
Wow, you are a brave man trimming that beautiful stock!  You sure did a nice, clean job though.

Thanks, Zack. I did a lot of soul-searching before starting that saw!
I built a crosscut sled and used some careful jigging with furniture clamps, too.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2019, 04:25:54 PM »
Wow, you are a brave man trimming that beautiful stock!  You sure did a nice, clean job though.

Thanks, Zack. I did a lot of soul-searching before starting that saw!
I built a crosscut sled and used some careful jigging with furniture clamps, too.
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Honestly, I'd like to take off the same amount from the Regal, but I don't really have the tools to do it.  Adding the Rowan Adjustable Buttpad (End of Rifle Stock thingie) increased the LOP about 3/4".  Although it doesn't sound like much, the balance of the rifle is definitely affected.  It just feels a little less comfortable now. 
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2019, 10:25:27 PM »
Here is mine from Maestro UK.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2019, 09:55:29 AM »
Hi, Jeff.
Have you been shooting that configuration for a while?
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2019, 10:06:04 AM »
Here is mine from Maestro UK.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2019, 10:12:31 AM »
Thanks to a generous FRiEnD, I am trying out an adjustable hook from Competition Shooter UK.
With just a few days' testing, I am enjoying the results, especially on offhand shots.
Testing at longer ranges may have to wait. Temps are below zero today. My interest in walking out there is about the same.
Thanks for the input, guys.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2019, 02:41:39 PM »
Hi, Jeff.
Have you been shooting that configuration for a while?
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I've been shooting it for about 6 months now with very good results, especially offhand shots.  I also shoot with a coat and knee pad.
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Re: Butt hooks on spring-piston rifles?
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2019, 02:42:24 PM »
Here is mine from Maestro UK.
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Lukas Parsley in Poland made this stock.
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