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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2019, 06:37:51 PM »
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I am not impressed by BBP.
Yes, he seems knowledgeable in air guns in general, but less so for 10 meter competition stuff.   Makes me think of the saying "Jack of all trades, master of none."  I don't know that he has even shot in regulation 10 meter matcheS, maybe he has.
I would take what he says with a grain of salt, until you confirm it with a GOOD 10m shooter/site.
He has said things that make me question his level of expertise in 10 meter competition.

I agree completely with that statement. He's too casual about most things he writes about, and not just 10m.

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As I read the rules, a red dot is not allowed for 10m matches, only OPEN sights.

But for casual home shooting, who cares.

That is exactly what I use it for. I've been mildly interested in shooting at a club or something like that, but I can't get any of the locals to even answer an email, let alone a phone call, so I just shoot at home.

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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2019, 06:57:25 PM »
Exactly my experience.
No official clubs in my area, sad to say... at least for an old man.
There is a High School league 30 miles south but they do not respond to my inquiries.  :P
I am just a "poser" I guess who want to shoot a pistol with his left hand in his pocket for casual 10M fun.

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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2019, 07:26:09 PM »
Exactly my experience.
No official clubs in my area, sad to say... at least for an old man.
There is a High School league 30 miles south but they do not respond to my inquiries.  :P
I am just a "poser" I guess who want to shoot a pistol with his left hand in his pocket for casual 10M fun.

Looks like you need to be Asian as well.
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2019, 07:36:26 PM »
Exactly my experience.
No official clubs in my area, sad to say... at least for an old man.
There is a High School league 30 miles south but they do not respond to my inquiries.  :P
I am just a "poser" I guess who want to shoot a pistol with his left hand in his pocket for casual 10M fun.

Looks like you need to be Asian as well.
Tappin out on that one... Anglo Saxon
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2019, 09:01:47 PM »
Exactly my experience.
No official clubs in my area, sad to say... at least for an old man.
There is a High School league 30 miles south but they do not respond to my inquiries.  :P
I am just a "poser" I guess who want to shoot a pistol with his left hand in his pocket for casual 10M fun.


HD,
A tip.  Don't crank your head down to your shoulder, to look down your arm, like the guy in the pix.
I used to do that, and it is hard on your neck, especially as you get older.  If you are young, you can abuse your body, and it can recover.  Not so when you get older.
I now keep my head upright, with my neck as straight as I can, and lift the pistol higher.

BTW, I also shoot my match AR like that, head upright, not leaning over onto the stock.
I cant the rifle over to the left, to bring the sight in line with my eye.
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2019, 09:18:57 PM »
Thanks for the tip.
I do that with some of my rifles now... and at 56 have been feeling in my neck.
Much appreciated.
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2019, 10:49:55 PM »
As the saying goes . . . "getting old not worthy, but it is better than the alternative."
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2019, 11:01:20 PM »
This is all way too far advanced for me. I'm still working on my tongue hold.   :P
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2019, 12:42:35 AM »
This is all way too far advanced for me. I'm still working on my tongue hold.   :P

That is funny, because I shoot high school sports, and there are many times where the players have their tongue out.  I usually delete those pictures, because I don't think the kids want others to see that.
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2019, 01:38:17 AM »
Exactly my experience.
No official clubs in my area, sad to say... at least for an old man.
There is a High School league 30 miles south but they do not respond to my inquiries.  :P
I am just a "poser" I guess who want to shoot a pistol with his left hand in his pocket for casual 10M fun.
Hoosier Daddy . . . and anyone else . . . you're welcome to come to Camp Perry - there is a monthly air pistol/air rifle match that is open to anyone, regardless of age or skill level . . . the monthly schedule is on this link . . . https://ct.thecmp.org/app/v1/

Hoosier Daddy - from your neighborhood, you should be about a 2 or 2 1/2 hour drive - we have people that drive that far from michigan every month. makes a great day-trip. would love to have you join us ! (and maybe you could show me how to post my target pics on here  :-\)

ac12 - save up some pennies and come out in the summer during the National Matches . . . an experience you will cherish forever !
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2019, 06:44:11 AM »
I have been to Port Clinton, been on fishing charters there.
I may just have to take you up on the invite!
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2019, 11:55:08 AM »
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Go to the sporting goods store and get a pair of 'skate board' shoes, or the old style tennis shoes.
What you want are shoes where the sole is FLAT.
This is so that you do not rock on your shoe.  If your shoe is worn and you rock, you will NOT be able to hold a steady sight picture.
So do NOT use those shoes for anything but shooting, or you will wear edges of the sole and you will rock.

Shoes must be LOW cut, below the ankle bone.  So no combat boots allowed   ;)

All I ever wear these days are low-top Converse "Chuck Taylors".  I buy a new pair every year or so and have since I was a teenager.  I'm pretty sure those will qualify.  ;D
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« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2019, 11:56:36 AM »
Exactly my experience.
No official clubs in my area, sad to say... at least for an old man.
There is a High School league 30 miles south but they do not respond to my inquiries.  :P
I am just a "poser" I guess who want to shoot a pistol with his left hand in his pocket for casual 10M fun.

This is basically where I'm at.  I don't believe I will have any opportunity to actually compete (at least I haven't found anything remotely near me).  It's just a new skill to learn and a new way to shoot my APs.  I'd still like to get as close to the real deal as I can, though.
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2019, 06:47:37 PM »
 I currently have 3 pairs of Converse All-stars... or as the youth today call them "Chucks" all Hightops. Old Black mowing shoes, more recent red, and a new pair of blacks... I had no idea a flat sole was good for shooting!
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2019, 07:53:35 PM »
I currently have 3 pairs of Converse All-stars... or as the youth today call them "Chucks" all Hightops. Old Black mowing shoes, more recent red, and a new pair of blacks... I had no idea a flat sole was good for shooting!
Been my calling card for 5 decades.  8)

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If you wore one of my old shoes you would know.  The heel is worn from walking that when I stand still, I will rock backwards, because of the worn heel.
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2019, 11:42:31 PM »
I currently have 3 pairs of Converse All-stars... or as the youth today call them "Chucks" all Hightops. Old Black mowing shoes, more recent red, and a new pair of blacks... I had no idea a flat sole was good for shooting!
Been my calling card for 5 decades.  8)

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If you wore one of my old shoes you would know.  The heel is worn from walking that when I stand still, I will rock backwards, because of the worn heel.

I typically walk right out of my shoes from wear after about the 12 month mark.  I swear it's planned obsolescence!
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2019, 09:36:30 AM »
So one more stupid question since we've already turned this into a "10m AP For Dummies" thread and because it's been difficult for me to ferret training information out of the web:

Do most people practice shooting 10m with both hands?  That is, do they take a bunch of shots with their dominant hand and then switch to their other hand?   Is that a dumb idea in general?
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« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2019, 03:21:41 PM »
So one more stupid question since we've already turned this into a "10m AP For Dummies" thread and because it's been difficult for me to ferret training information out of the web:

Do most people practice shooting 10m with both hands?  That is, do they take a bunch of shots with their dominant hand and then switch to their other hand?   Is that a dumb idea in general?

There is no dumb question.

Can't do that with a 10 match pistol, the grip is either RH or LH.
You could do that with an ambi grip, but I see no value for target shooting.
On the other hand, for defensive shooting, weak hand shooting is a recognized thing that has to be practiced.
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2019, 08:45:23 PM »
So one more stupid question since we've already turned this into a "10m AP For Dummies" thread and because it's been difficult for me to ferret training information out of the web:

Do most people practice shooting 10m with both hands?  That is, do they take a bunch of shots with their dominant hand and then switch to their other hand?   Is that a dumb idea in general?

There is no dumb question.

Can't do that with a 10 match pistol, the grip is either RH or LH.
You could do that with an ambi grip, but I see no value for target shooting.
On the other hand, for defensive shooting, weak hand shooting is a recognized thing that has to be practiced.

Ah, a specific grip would put a dent in that idea, thanks!  I'm ambidextrous, so I guess I'm just gonna have to figure out which hand I want to use.
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Re: entry level 10m pistol?
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2019, 09:24:43 PM »
If you are truly ambidextrous, then figure out your dominant eye.
With both eyes open, Hold you index finger out at arms length  and align it to a point about 10 yards away. Without moving close one eye then the other. It will jump side to side. Witch ever is the one that aligns to where you originally sighted in is your dominant eye. I am right handed and right eye dominant.
 Others are not.
Unfortunately my vision out of my right eye is failing much faster than my left.  ::) :P
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