Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?



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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2019, 06:46:34 AM »
Machining is a completely different thing than casting, we are not talking about machining molds now are we?
 
How many of you have been turning bullets in a lathe raise your hand?

Bigbores and casting should go hand in hand.
Cast bullet shooters most of them anyway.

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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2019, 07:13:45 AM »
Marko I think there some that have modified their molds in the forum but more than likely on a mill if anything.
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2019, 12:19:30 PM »

How many of you have been turning bullets in a lathe raise your hand?

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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2019, 12:31:29 PM »
You all do realize that the search function works, right?
Should I look for stock making information in the springer gates?
The "Making" gates need to be separated from the "Shooting" gates if for no other reason than to keep both areas from becoming so cluttered that you can't find anything.
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2019, 01:51:31 PM »
Well for me it seems more logical to have the bullet casting right where you need them, in the bigbore gate.
It's like "Oh a bigbore airgun I wonder what they shoot, and there you have sticky that says bullet casting"
And no searching needed for machining related stuff what casting is not.
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2019, 02:05:16 PM »
You all do realize that the search function works, right?
Should I look for stock making information in the springer gates?
The "Making" gates need to be separated from the "Shooting" gates if for no other reason than to keep both areas from becoming so cluttered that you can't find anything.
I actually have a little agreement there on the clutter issue but making PARTS for air guns is not the same as projectiles making which is the entire FUNCTION of air guns. 
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2019, 02:15:47 PM »
I have no problem with moving it.... but the idea of putting all the posts together in one "Sticky" in the Big Bore Gate is, IMO, a non-starter.... Casting needs to have a separate gate (or child gate), so that multiple threads, on different topics, are possible, as they are now.... Can you imagine all the posts in the current gate lumped into one sticky?.... You would never find anything....

Perhaps creating another Child Gate in the PCP "Darkside" Gate is the best idea.... similar to the Big Bore, Korean and Support Equipment Child Gates now there.... then move everything over to that.... While we're at it, can we spell BULLETS correctly, please.... or just drop that and say Casting, because there are now moulds to cast pellets as well.... ::)

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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2019, 02:19:26 PM »

Just do a search for "bullet casting".  You'll get a lot of different gates to weed through.  The machine shop comes in at #17 on the list for me.  A lot to weed through just to finally find the actual one.


It's fine if the frequent members already know where to go, but saying "it's fine where it is ' doesn't seem like they are thinking it all the way through, or thinking of others like newcomers to the forum.  The machine shop gate doesn't seem like the first place to look for bullet casting IMHO.
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2019, 03:04:55 PM »
Me I think Boolits is fine... and as a child gate of big bore does make sense to me... but am happy there is a casting gate at all.. ;)

Boolits is a term I first heard in the late 80's early 90?... maybe it was in Shotgun News which has/had been around a good while...

was always under the impression it was a term used to notate non commercial cast bare lead projectiles...Thought it was a term coined by SASS folks...plus it does in a small way honor the contribution of the members that have shared and debated on the cast boolit forum...it is a valuable resource for those seeking info to help cut the learning curve down a bit...

in my mind it is all sitting in a wildcatters lounge.. ;)
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2019, 06:04:17 PM »
Notice over at AGN they list a Pellets n Projectiles section... that covers a lot.
"Pellets, Bullets and Projectiles" with  casting included in that?
Which brings up the arrow guns that are showing up, personally not interested but do they get a child gate eventually?
I see where that leads to fragmentation though.

Note that making and modifications to molds IS MACHINING and should stay where it is.
Casting pellets and slugs is shooting and is fairly different.
Why could you not have a "Go To" link at the top of a Gate or child gate to go to an associate section.  IE: Your in the casting section and want to see about doing mold modifications, just click on the link to the machine shop/molds section without having to navigate through several gates.
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2019, 06:18:21 PM »
The machine shop is for "Metal Working" mainly. Casting IS metal working just like welding is metal working! IMHO!
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2019, 01:08:33 PM »
The machine shop is for "Metal Working" mainly. Casting IS metal working just like welding is metal working! IMHO!
I cast for ALL bores of guns, small to large.
Yes, swaging and casting bullets/pellets can be thought of as metal working.
But I'd be willing to bet 90% of people would not instantly think of it that way in terms of shooting.

I origionally proposed it become a child gate of the Darkside because of more traffic by users of cast pellets and bullets from .22 on up being able to easily utilize it's resources of communication and sharing experience. That's why not suggesting it being in Big Bore.
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2019, 01:19:06 PM »
I see dark side child gate would be perfect for casting, including boolits and molds. It is what we shoot. So why not here?

Of course it is also metal working but why it would be necessary to use search for it? IMO there is no good reason for "hiding" it.
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2019, 01:38:50 PM »
I see dark side child gate would be perfect for casting, including boolits and molds. It is what we shoot. So why not here?

Of course it is also metal working but why it would be necessary to use search for it? IMO there is no good reason for "hiding" it.

Indeed, people are now casting bullets in the .17-.25 range as well so that would be only logical.
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2019, 01:58:07 AM »
You all do realize that the search function works, right?
Should I look for stock making information in the springer gates?
The "Making" gates need to be separated from the "Shooting" gates if for no other reason than to keep both areas from becoming so cluttered that you can't find anything.


Terry, just HOW does someone who doesn't know we have a cast bullet section help . A LOT of people don't, as has already been explained.


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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2019, 02:00:58 AM »
The machine shop is for "Metal Working" mainly. Casting IS metal working just like welding is metal working! IMHO!
I cast for ALL bores of guns, small to large.


No Sir, casting in not looked upon as metal working. Nor is it looked on as fabrication. A foundry is not looked on as metal working. These are entirely different fields.  Just as a welder is a fabricator or repair man.


You are confusing tradesmen with craftsmen. Not in the same league or pay grade. A Machinist being one of the highest paid tradesmen, And Pipe Fitter being one of the highest tradesmen,  He is a machinist or a Pipefitter. Neither are called metal workers in the crafts. Although a Machinist works with metals and other materials, a true metal worker is a for instance, Gold Smith. Silversmith. Black Smith, Bladesmith. Hence the Title Smith. Titles respected the world wide, and over the centuries.


I may stir up some concrete, but i'm not a construction engineer. I may build a house, but I'm no Home Maker. My wife is, and I don't' want that job! LOL  Titles in the trades and Crafts have meaning, and their places. It seems simply that you are not fully aware of them or what they are. .  ;)
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2019, 02:17:24 AM »
I used out search engine to find the actual poll. Nada!  But I am old and blind.
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2019, 03:42:06 PM »
This thread has gotten plenty of views but not many votes.
I know there are a lot of casters because I've met them on other airguns sites.
I don't have any 'new' points, I thought the ones I made were valid, worthy and compelling and still apply.

There's plenty of discussion here about casting and molds, it's just scattered around like a shotgun blast instead of in a tight group, haha
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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2019, 04:56:20 PM »
My recent purchase of a NOE pellet mold and flying blind about how to run it bespeaksof the fact it needs itís separate gate.

Until I saw this thread I had no idea it existed.

For that matter, being disabled with low vision, your gates are too hard to read even with a magnifying glass, combine these two factors and it is as if you have hidden the bullet casting gate in the back 40.

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Re: Bullet Casters: Do you know where the Gate is?
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2019, 06:41:03 PM »
Can someone please help this old man find how to vote on this?
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