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Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« on: January 12, 2019, 03:42:27 PM »
I am looking for a new scope to replace some crappy center points.

I was considering the Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot" with the illuminated reticle.

Was wondering if anyone has experience with this scope and what are your opinions / impressions.

Thanks.

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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 04:01:03 PM »
Well, they stand behind their warranty really well if you keep a sales receipt.  I have their 4-16 X 44 and would not be likely to buy one again.  The first time I sent it back something had shaken loose inside.  Its replacement was really hard to turn the knobs for elevation and azimuth so I returned it.  Its replacement was okay but I think something is a little loose inside now.  I'll work with a bit more before I make a final decision.  It MAY be me.  I'll swap back and forth between two scopes when the weather warms a bit and decide.  I have yet to have problems with a Hawke scope.  Of course you'll find others with the opposite for experience.  Beware - some Leapers scopes have etched reticles while others are wire.  Etched is more expensive but generally better built.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2019, 04:08:40 PM »
Thanks for the input. One would expect the Hawke to be better since they cost 2 to 3x as much.

Pretty sure the Leapers I am looking into has a 'wire' reticle. I will look around and see what else is available.

But just what is the issue of wire vs etched reticles?
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2019, 04:39:14 PM »
Wire reticles tend to be thicker than etched reticles - they are not as fine.  Sometimes they can be shaken out of place whereas the etched one is a permanent fixture in the glass.  The wire reticle is just one more thing inside the scope that can break or go wrong.  Thirty mm tubes on scopes are reputed to make a sturdier scope.  I have both and have had zero problems (other than Center Point) so I can't really say.  Logically I can see where a thirty mm scope tube, allowing more room for components, could be sturdier but so far that thirty mm Leapers has been my only problem scope.  I've had a Hawke Sport 3-9 for almost six trouble free years.  The Vantage line replaced the Sport line, I believe.  That is their economy line.  You can get the Vantage with or without AO but for airgun use spend the extra $10 and get AO.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2019, 04:53:26 PM »
I have a 4-16x50 Leapers with 1" tube and AO.  I got it used as a gift, so no warranty coverage.  Although it has all the features I would want, I find that the glass isn't as clear nor the focus as sharp as my other scopes.  This is the only Leapers I've ever used.  My other rifles have Nikons, BSA and Vortex.  My advice is the same I was given when getting into shooting:  buy the very best scope you can afford.  In my opinion, that's a Vortex.  I love mine and have used them to 750 and 1000 yards (powder burners of course). 
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2019, 05:15:40 PM »
I am looking for a new scope to replace some crappy center points.

I was considering the Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot" with the illuminated reticle.

Was wondering if anyone has experience with this scope and what are your opinions / impressions.

Thanks.

Wire reticles in UTGs are really thick.

There is a 3 to 12 x 44 Centerpoint version that has a MOA (hash) reticle, which is only $60 so if you buy it from ebay. The model is L312SFT2. Bought 1 for only $50 last Dec..

Wally has them too but they are sealed, so peering is not possible.

Gave 1 to a friend of mine as  gift and he likes it very much. Was not able to see personally inspect though because I had it shipped to him.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2019, 06:49:14 PM »
From my perspective, the biggest issue with UTG scopes can be their overall length. Depending on the airgun, scope model in question, and the mount style (picatinny or 11 mm rail), you might have one model too long, and another too short. Since the best prices seemingly are on Amazon, always leave yourself an out, as in return without penalty.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2019, 07:37:44 PM »
Tom, I have that scope on my .25 Sumatra carbine & Iím pleased with the etched glass reticle, size, ranging & weight. No problems whatsoever.
I highly recommend. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2019, 07:47:23 PM »
Tom, I have that scope on my .25 Sumatra carbine & Iím pleased with the glass, size & weight. No problems whatsoever. I recommend. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Leapers_UTG_1_5_6x44_Accushot_Rifle_Scope_EZ_TAP_Ill_Mil_Dot_Reticle_1_4_MOA_30mm_tube_Weaver_Rings/4316

That's a different scope. I am looking at this one...

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Leapers_3_12X44_AO_SWAT_Compact_Accushot_Rifle_Scope_EZ_TAP_Illuminated_Mil_Dot_Reticle_1_4_MOA_30mm_Tube_See_Thru_Weaver_Rings/3429

But re-considering one with an etched reticle.

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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2019, 07:50:04 PM »
I have one and really like it. The illumination can be hit or miss with them though as in, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't! I have had mine for about 3 years and it works just fine. I have even, yes, dropped it a couple times on a concrete floor yet it still holds it's zero.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2019, 08:16:49 PM »
i have the 3-12x44 compact with the 36 color reticle that you linked to,


its been a really good scope for me.

i put the large side wheel on it,
its clear,snaps into focus nice,i can focus mine down to about 8yds,holds zero,locking turrets,etc...


have mine on my bullboss and have whacked many pigeons with it.


that said, im getting ready to put it up for sale in the classifieds LOL

only because i want to go to a fixed 10x scope,or maybe another ffp.

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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2019, 08:18:38 PM »
Experience may vary, but they've been good scopes for the price point for me. I've had wire, etched, hunter and side focus. Only one warranty issue (front AO ring got loose) and they sent a new unit on return.

No experience with super high end scopes, but no complaints on UTG for springer distances. The etched reticle is much nicer as others have said.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2019, 08:24:50 PM »
I have 2. One on my 40 cal Badger and one on my .22 Flashpup. Like mentioned, the lit rectical is hit or miss. Sometimes they lite up and sometimes they donít. A simple on off switch would be better than the push switch that are on them. Only other issue I have is that they are heavy. I also have the short version on my Prod and really like it. I wanted to put a Bugbuster on the Prod, but this one works so well I hate to mess with it.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2019, 08:34:35 PM »
Tom, I have that scope on my .25 Sumatra carbine & Iím pleased with the glass, size & weight. No problems whatsoever. I recommend. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Leapers_UTG_1_5_6x44_Accushot_Rifle_Scope_EZ_TAP_Ill_Mil_Dot_Reticle_1_4_MOA_30mm_tube_Weaver_Rings/4316

That's a different scope. I am looking at this one...

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Leapers_3_12X44_AO_SWAT_Compact_Accushot_Rifle_Scope_EZ_TAP_Illuminated_Mil_Dot_Reticle_1_4_MOA_30mm_Tube_See_Thru_Weaver_Rings/3429

But re-considering one with an etched reticle.

Fat rets on this one.

Got the 16x version.

The Centerpoint I told you about is available at Wally but it is expensive. You can try 1 and whether you like it or not you can return it and opt for the ones on ebay.

..And there is the Discovery brand.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2019, 02:27:08 PM »
I am looking for a new scope to replace some crappy center points.
I was considering the Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot" with the illuminated reticle.
Was wondering if anyone has experience with this scope and what are your opinions / impressions.
Thanks.

Hey Tom,
I'm a big fan of the leapers 3-12x44 and 4-16x44, both with 30mm tubes.  I would only buy these scopes with glass etched reticles.  The scopes really shine outdoors.
Both can be had a Dvor or Optics Planet for $130-$150 when on sale.
While they're a tad heavy at 21/22 oz., they have a nice side focus, 10 yrd. to infinity parallax and are Bullet Proof.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2019, 03:03:31 PM »
I've got one that I bought at the airgun show a couple years ago and it's a very good scope IMO, yes it's a little long and a little heavy IMO (I do like the swat scopes and bug busters too) but it has never given me any problems at all.   I've never even had a battery in it though because I really don't use the lit retical because I always manage to somehow accidentally leave them on.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2019, 03:21:05 PM »
I am looking for a new scope to replace some crappy center points.
I was considering the Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot" with the illuminated reticle.
Was wondering if anyone has experience with this scope and what are your opinions / impressions.
Thanks.

Hey Tom,
I'm a big fan of the leapers 3-12x44 and 4-16x44, both with 30mm tubes.  I would only buy these scopes with glass etched reticles.  The scopes really shine outdoors.
Both can be had a Dvor or Optics Planet for $130-$150 when on sale.
While they're a tad heavy at 21/22 oz., they have a nice side focus, 10 yrd. to infinity parallax and are Bullet Proof.

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Except that I would only buy these scopes with wire reticles - I have my reasons.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2019, 03:43:50 PM »
This one. MUCH better glass than Leapers. I have one and a UTG 4-16X56 glass reticle. The Bushnell is more clear and jyst as bright.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/202136/bushnell-ar-optics-rifle-scope-3-12x-40mm-side-focus-1-10-mil-adjustments-drop-zone-223-bdc-reticle-matte
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2019, 03:47:37 PM »
I am looking for a new scope to replace some crappy center points.
I was considering the Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot" with the illuminated reticle.
Was wondering if anyone has experience with this scope and what are your opinions / impressions.
Thanks.

Hey Tom,
I'm a big fan of the leapers 3-12x44 and 4-16x44, both with 30mm tubes.  I would only buy these scopes with glass etched reticles.  The scopes really shine outdoors.
Both can be had a Dvor or Optics Planet for $130-$150 when on sale.
While they're a tad heavy at 21/22 oz., they have a nice side focus, 10 yrd. to infinity parallax and are Bullet Proof.

+1

Except that I would only buy these scopes with wire reticles - I have my reasons.

I only use mine for target practice, since I don't hunt.  The fine reticle allows you to be very precise.
In a hunting situation, I can see why the reticle maybe too fine :D.
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Re: Leapers 3-12x44 "Accushot", opinons wanted
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2019, 04:24:58 PM »
This one. MUCH better glass than Leapers. I have one and a UTG 4-16X56 glass reticle. The Bushnell is more clear and jyst as bright.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/202136/bushnell-ar-optics-rifle-scope-3-12x-40mm-side-focus-1-10-mil-adjustments-drop-zone-223-bdc-reticle-matte

I've never used one, but it sure looks to be good ;).
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