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Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« on: January 26, 2019, 11:18:38 AM »
I carefully removed the shroud from my Air Speed this morning to clean the barrel and the o-ring was broken.  What size is this o-ring so I can find a replacement?  Thanks...
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2019, 10:43:38 AM »
Mine was also broken and down near the breech... My measurements show it to have a 16mm ID and 2mm width. It's not an item we stock and Evanix hasn't sent us any replacement parts yet, but I can have some here tomorrow and get one out to you.
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2019, 12:07:23 PM »
Mine was also broken and down near the breech... My measurements show it to have a 16mm ID and 2mm width. It's not an item we stock and Evanix hasn't sent us any replacement parts yet, but I can have some here tomorrow and get one out to you.

Thank you Matt!  I checked my stash and the closest I have on hand is a 3/32" CS and ⅝" ID.  That's too thick to fit in the groove and allow enough clearance for the shroud to slide over it. 
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2019, 12:12:23 PM »
No problem, I'll get one shipped out tomorrow.
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2019, 12:23:35 PM »
No problem, I'll get one shipped out tomorrow.

Awesome!  Very much appreciated! 

Did you guys ever get any lighter springs to try in the Air Speeds?  I'm still having accuracy issues and was just wondering if it's shooting the pellets too fast?  It's shooting every pellet I have in the 18 - 18.52 grain range at over 920 fps.  The only pellet that is giving me half way decent grouping are the H&N Baracuda Match 21.3 grains and it's shooting them at an average of 770 fps.  I'm just wondering if things would improve considerably if I could get it shooting the 18 grain pellets at around 825 - 850 fps?
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2019, 03:14:29 PM »
I'll have to ask Travis about the springs when he recuperates from Shot show(he's old).

I pulled a .22 Air Speed and .22 Max out of the boxes and shot them over the chrony. 928 for the Air speed and 960 with the Max, both with 18gr JSB's. They're both too hot for accuracy, especially if they have 1:15 twist. I'd say 880 would be about the max you should be running. I'd try cutting the spring down half a coil at a time until you get to where you want it. Don't worry about the warranty.

I've enclosed a pic of the back of the Max Air, and it looks like the sole purpose of the extra piece is to allow you to back the adjuster way out.
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2019, 03:32:59 PM »
This is where I have the HS adjuster and it's still slinging the JSB Jumbo 18.13 grain pellets at an average of 910.2 fps.  That's a pretty hefty spring and I don't think I have a tool that would cut it. All I have are your everyday household tools, not a machine shop!  LOL!  I fear ruining something trying to cut that spring with the cheap wire cutters I have!  It looks like they gave the Max Air a lot more room for adjustments...
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2019, 03:38:20 PM »
I'll have to ask Travis about the springs when he recuperates from Shot show(he's old).

I pulled a .22 Air Speed and .22 Max out of the boxes and shot them over the chrony. 928 for the Air speed and 960 with the Max, both with 18gr JSB's. They're both too hot for accuracy, especially if they have 1:15 twist. I'd say 880 would be about the max you should be running. I'd try cutting the spring down half a coil at a time until you get to where you want it. Don't worry about the warranty.

I've enclosed a pic of the back of the Max Air, and it looks like the sole purpose of the extra piece is to allow you to back the adjuster way out.
I am old LOl and working 15 days in a row didnt help any LOL or averaging 6 miles a day on my step counter at the Shot Show 2019
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2019, 03:41:57 PM »
You'd probably mess the wire cutters up, but a decent pair of diagonal cutters are all that I use.


I am old LOl and working 15 days in a row didnt help any LOL or averaging 6 miles a day on my step counter at the Shot Show 2019

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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2019, 03:45:49 PM »
Travis you are posting on the wrong forum if you are fishing for sympathy because the Shot Show in Vegas tired your poor old tuchas and all that walking made you legs tired and your feet hurt. Ok here goes Awwh you poor dear you NOT !!!  :P :P :P ;D ;D
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2019, 03:58:06 PM »
Travis you are posting on the wrong forum if you are fishing for sympathy because the Shot Show in Vegas tired your poor old tuchas and all that walking made you legs tired and your feet hurt. Ok here goes Awwh you poor dear you NOT !!!  :P :P :P ;D ;D

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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2019, 04:01:49 PM »
You'd probably mess the wire cutters up, but a decent pair of diagonal cutters are all that I use.


Yep, don't have any of those either!  LOL!  Do you think leaving it cocked so the spring is compressed would help?  Pro would that do more harm than good?  Thanks again for the support JSAR crew!
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2019, 04:13:56 PM »
If the spring is of decent quality, I don't think that'll help. There have been tests done with loaded powder burner magazines, and the majority took a very long time to weaken.
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2019, 04:14:15 PM »
I use a dremel with a cutoff wheel for springs, then dress up the edges after
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2019, 05:09:43 PM »
I use a dremel with a cutoff wheel for springs, then dress up the edges after
Wayne unfortunately we tool guys are a unique group even here on the GTA my guess is we are the 1%ers of the AG world and have a garage full of tool boxes and expensive tools
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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2019, 06:43:19 PM »
Yep, I believe you are right!  However, I did employ my high tech spring compressor and it did reduce the length of the spring by a good "!  Now if it stays that way or not is another thing.  It has reduced the average speed of the JSB 18.13 grain pellets from 920 fps to 860 fps!  The mark on the bolt was the original length of the spring...

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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2019, 07:54:08 PM »
I use a dremel with a cutoff wheel for springs, then dress up the edges after
Wayne unfortunately we tool guys are a unique group even here on the GTA my guess is we are the 1%ers of the AG world and have a garage full of tool boxes and expensive tools

So where do I stand with owning more tool boxes and tools than my house costs all in a 20x24 garage. Its 45+ years of auto/cycle mechanic/technician where time is money and any tool that reduces that time or energy to get the job done faster is worth gold to me. I will admit most of my hand tools and small power tools were bought in the 70s and 80s before prices went sky high. 1/2" socket sets for impact use costs 80 bucks then versus 450 now.

Oh yea, Paul you just performed what is known as setting a spring by using the screw and washer to compress it to coil bind and let it set for 10 minutes or so. It does not hurt the spring  or reduce its energy output you just reduced its free length instantly versus shooting it till it slowly took the same set. Its the same as taking a spring for spring gun and cocking the gun for 4 or 5 hours to set the spring or compress it like you did with just bigger screw and washer. Its what ARH does when you pay 2 bucks for them to set the spring.

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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2019, 08:21:27 PM »
Oh yea, Paul you just performed what is known as setting a spring by using the screw and washer to compress it to coil bind and let it set for 10 minutes or so. It does not hurt the spring  or reduce its energy output you just reduced its free length instantly versus shooting it till it slowly took the same set. Its the same as taking a spring for spring gun and cocking the gun for 4 or 5 hours to set the spring or compress it like you did with just bigger screw and washer. Its what ARH does when you pay 2 bucks for them to set the spring.

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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2019, 01:44:50 AM »
Oh yea, Paul you just performed what is known as setting a spring by using the screw and washer to compress it to coil bind and let it set for 10 minutes or so. It does not hurt the spring  or reduce its energy output you just reduced its free length instantly versus shooting it till it slowly took the same set. Its the same as taking a spring for spring gun and cocking the gun for 4 or 5 hours to set the spring or compress it like you did with just bigger screw and washer. Its what ARH does when you pay 2 bucks for them to set the spring.

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Re: Need Air peed Air Stripper O-Ring Size?
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2019, 08:23:04 AM »
Oh yea, Paul you just performed what is known as setting a spring by using the screw and washer to compress it to coil bind and let it set for 10 minutes or so. It does not hurt the spring  or reduce its energy output you just reduced its free length instantly versus shooting it till it slowly took the same set. Its the same as taking a spring for spring gun and cocking the gun for 4 or 5 hours to set the spring or compress it like you did with just bigger screw and washer. Its what ARH does when you pay 2 bucks for them to set the spring.

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