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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2019, 04:11:40 PM »
Yup, more trigger time better groups. PS, take along a few NUAH target and become a NUAH club member!

I got marksmen with my .177 prod shooting 21 gr slugs.. Talk about a hoot! Once I get the barrel tuned up a bit and get the fps up it will be even better. If I pick a day with no wind and my face will hurt from smiling.
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2019, 04:16:51 PM »
Keith, the weight would be fine in .25. these are 50 grain from a decked 80 gr. Ranch Dog NOE  mold. they are at 80 yards, as I don't have an easy 100 yards on my home range.


They cast at .2587 and I size them to .2500.  the pic of the mushroomed bullet is the 50 gr. NOE RD decked and cast to .260 and sized to .2495.


the Decked 257420 is even more accurate than the NOE. I use the NOE sizing system with the different inserts and an upside down Lee Classic O frame press for these.  Man it sizes fast!


I also have molds that cast these  at 43 and 44 grains. And can push them well over 1000fps in the RainStorm. 


These shots show the bell curve, with the first shot being the lowest, and each consecutive shot being very slightly higher. 




Mike   I cleaned up the copy in order for it to be seen easier.
My next project is going to be hopefully another .257 followed by a .172 bullet shooter.   ;)

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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2019, 04:23:01 PM »
Nice shooting Knife, what fps are you shooting at?
I would love to have an 80-yard range in the backyard!
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2019, 04:44:01 PM »
Yup, more trigger time better groups. PS, take along a few NUAH target and become a NUAH club member!

I got marksmen with my .177 prod shooting 21 gr slugs.. Talk about a hoot! Once I get the barrel tuned up a bit and get the fps up it will be even better. If I pick a day with no wind and my face will hurt from smiling.




You just gave me something to work on :) I already printed the N.U.A.H target.  I will see if I can get all three of my guns qualified at some level.  Thanks!


P.S.  I just looked at one of my 142gr groups from yesterday.  All five fit within the ten ring.
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UTG compact SWAT 4-16x44 IR SFP
25 Marauder Regulated. Tuned using JSB MKIIs:
24 Shots @ 55.94 FPE Avg., 1.96% ES, 1.49 FPE/CI
JSAR SS Valve, MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x50 IR FFP
357 Slayer Unregulated. Tuned using NSA 142gr:
4 shots @ 275.60 FPE Avg., 2.33% ES, 1.23 FPE/CI
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x56 FFP
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2019, 04:53:35 PM »
Randy, these were shot at 890's, but fight the wind better at the 86o hammer setting. 


Next month, I will order the CF tubing to stiffen the barrel, as it is not as accurate as the Talon/Dor the barrel ( or very similar barrel) was in at one time.  It wold print well under 1/2" at 100 yards, as would Cedrics (Tofazfou) and Rifle50's.


I can get 4-5 shots at 1030fps but much prefer the two mags at the 860 for taking to the woods.  ;)
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2019, 11:30:50 PM »
Taking a break from casting.
Cra*, the sprue plate on the Lee 105 SWC has warped and it's throwing bullets with a tiny fin at the base.  I can't send these because they would be inaccurate.

I'll substitute some .25 NOE 250-50-FN which I sent off and had HP which drops the weight around 10gr. (Depends on alloy for exact weight you get)
Is that too heavy for your .25 rifle?


There are a lot of those in that NOE number listing, and would need the rest of that number to be sure.  The best I can tell is you're talking about either 37gr or 40gr with the 10gr HP loss.  If I am right about what I looked up, those would not be too heavy.  I just received a LW air tube today for my .25 cal.  It would be great to tune with those when I install the tube.  Thanks!
You said you wanted to try some slugs in your .25 and these are the lightest I have.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=554_468&products_id=2875
Actually, I was wrong, after casting a couple hundred today, they weigh 46gr
It had been so long since I cast any of these and I had shot all I had about a year ago so I forgot what they actually cast as.  All I do is big, big bore now, haha.
{there are a couple of JSB 33.95 in the photo for comparison}

Now back to our regular scheduled .357 thread! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2019, 12:00:24 AM »
Taking a break from casting.
Cra*, the sprue plate on the Lee 105 SWC has warped and it's throwing bullets with a tiny fin at the base.  I can't send these because they would be inaccurate.

I'll substitute some .25 NOE 250-50-FN which I sent off and had HP which drops the weight around 10gr. (Depends on alloy for exact weight you get)
Is that too heavy for your .25 rifle?


There are a lot of those in that NOE number listing, and would need the rest of that number to be sure.  The best I can tell is you're talking about either 37gr or 40gr with the 10gr HP loss.  If I am right about what I looked up, those would not be too heavy.  I just received a LW air tube today for my .25 cal.  It would be great to tune with those when I install the tube.  Thanks!
You said you wanted to try some slugs in your .25 and these are the lightest I have.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=554_468&products_id=2875
Actually, I was wrong, after casting a couple hundred today, they weigh 46gr
It had been so long since I cast any of these and I had shot all I had about a year ago so I forgot what they actually cast as.  All I do is big, big bore now, haha.
{there are a couple of JSB 33.95 in the photo for comparison}

Now back to our regular scheduled .357 thread! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Should still be good.  I've shot the Eugin 43gr with my .25.  They just weren't accurate enough for me even all the way up to 77 FPE.
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22 Marauder Unregulated. Tuned using JSB 18.13gr:
30 Shots @ 31.02 FPE Avg., 1.36% ES, 1.58 FPE/CI
JSAR MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.  MMHF barrel
UTG compact SWAT 4-16x44 IR SFP
25 Marauder Regulated. Tuned using JSB MKIIs:
24 Shots @ 55.94 FPE Avg., 1.96% ES, 1.49 FPE/CI
JSAR SS Valve, MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x50 IR FFP
357 Slayer Unregulated. Tuned using NSA 142gr:
4 shots @ 275.60 FPE Avg., 2.33% ES, 1.23 FPE/CI
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x56 FFP
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2019, 06:58:44 PM »
Triggertreat: Got this far today and will go to the post office Tuesday to pick up a couple of flat rate boxes and their on their way
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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2019, 07:14:57 PM »
Triggertreat: Got this far today and will go to the post office Tuesday to pick up a couple of flat rate boxes and their on their way



WOW!  So I'm counting six post-it notes, so is that six different cast to test plus the .25s which makes 7 different casts?  I like the packaging!



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22 Marauder Unregulated. Tuned using JSB 18.13gr:
30 Shots @ 31.02 FPE Avg., 1.36% ES, 1.58 FPE/CI
JSAR MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.  MMHF barrel
UTG compact SWAT 4-16x44 IR SFP
25 Marauder Regulated. Tuned using JSB MKIIs:
24 Shots @ 55.94 FPE Avg., 1.96% ES, 1.49 FPE/CI
JSAR SS Valve, MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x50 IR FFP
357 Slayer Unregulated. Tuned using NSA 142gr:
4 shots @ 275.60 FPE Avg., 2.33% ES, 1.23 FPE/CI
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x56 FFP
DonnyFL Emperor LDC

Air Venturi 4500 psi compressor
Stickman fill assembly
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2019, 08:11:08 PM »
the list;

Accurate Molds
36-168J which is a bullet I designed and had mold made then it was sent to hollowpointmold.com and casts 155gr : 50 ea .357 and .358    It is a bit bore riding so it chambers easier - Note that is NOT a gas check shank as it is too short but there for a reason (from my PB benchrest experience)
http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=36-168J-D.png
It throws an as cast .359 so it sizes nicely in both .357 and .358... I'm looking forward to trying it in my Slayer when it gets here!!!

NOE
TL357-135-RF-AU5: which casts as 128gr HP and throws in .357 so 'no sizing/shooting as is' and I am shooting in my Pitbull and Jim at WAR is shooting it in my FLEX+ prototype too.  100ea instead of only 50  ;D
359-174-FN-CE2:  This is the one Bob changed for me (shortened and made bore riding) and NOE put into production.  Casts 152gr HP and I sent both .357 & .358, 50 ea.
359-115-RF-R2: casts weight is 117 (no HP) and there are 50 ea .357 n .358

Lee Precision
358-140 SWC, 50 ea, sized .358
358-105-SWC, 50 ea, sized .357  (no .358s)

and of course the 100ea .25 BobsBoatTail from a NOE 50gr mold I had sent to hollowpointmold and now it throws a 46gr and shoots in my WAR WARP 16" and in my 68 FPE Synrod

So counting the two different sizes there are 10 different of each.

Note I am NOT going to say what shoots VERY well and what shoots just OK because I want you to shoot unprejudiced independently.
I also sent ShakySarge some and when he can he is going to test too in his Bulldog.

These were cast with 2% tin so they are about +- 1:45 ratio
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2019, 08:43:32 PM »
Sounds really good Carl.  I have been working on my bag rest today, but I have a shooting rest in mind also that I think will work better for testing.  I'll be rechecking the tune too, with and without that lube when it gets here.  Just trying to get ready for the next range trip with the new slugs.  I'm wanting the best data to share that I can give.
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22 Marauder Unregulated. Tuned using JSB 18.13gr:
30 Shots @ 31.02 FPE Avg., 1.36% ES, 1.58 FPE/CI
JSAR MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.  MMHF barrel
UTG compact SWAT 4-16x44 IR SFP
25 Marauder Regulated. Tuned using JSB MKIIs:
24 Shots @ 55.94 FPE Avg., 1.96% ES, 1.49 FPE/CI
JSAR SS Valve, MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x50 IR FFP
357 Slayer Unregulated. Tuned using NSA 142gr:
4 shots @ 275.60 FPE Avg., 2.33% ES, 1.23 FPE/CI
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x56 FFP
DonnyFL Emperor LDC

Air Venturi 4500 psi compressor
Stickman fill assembly
60 min & 30 min 4500 psi CF tanks

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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2019, 08:53:31 PM »
Taking a break from casting.
Cra*, the sprue plate on the Lee 105 SWC has warped and it's throwing bullets with a tiny fin at the base.  I can't send these because they would be inaccurate.

I'll substitute some .25 NOE 250-50-FN which I sent off and had HP which drops the weight around 10gr. (Depends on alloy for exact weight you get)
Is that too heavy for your .25 rifle?


There are a lot of those in that NOE number listing, and would need the rest of that number to be sure.  The best I can tell is you're talking about either 37gr or 40gr with the 10gr HP loss.  If I am right about what I looked up, those would not be too heavy.  I just received a LW air tube today for my .25 cal.  It would be great to tune with those when I install the tube.  Thanks!
You said you wanted to try some slugs in your .25 and these are the lightest I have.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=554_468&products_id=2875
Actually, I was wrong, after casting a couple hundred today, they weigh 46gr
It had been so long since I cast any of these and I had shot all I had about a year ago so I forgot what they actually cast as.  All I do is big, big bore now, haha.
{there are a couple of JSB 33.95 in the photo for comparison}

Now back to our regular scheduled .357 thread! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Carl, is the pictured HP pin as supplied from NOE? Oddly enough, I have one that came with one of my molds. However, the mold is not drilled for hp. Must have gotten in the box by mistake. It is the point and shaft, but no knob.


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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2019, 10:58:43 PM »

Carl, is the pictured HP pin as supplied from NOE? Oddly enough, I have one that came with one of my molds. However, the mold is not drilled for hp. Must have gotten in the box by mistake. It is the point and shaft, but no knob.

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No, not from NOE, back when I bought it there was no HP option so I sent it to be HP and Eric provided those as part of the package.
The base which you are calling the knob? Is the 'ram adapter' from the NOE sizer set.  The nose punch fits in it and I had just installed it then decided to take the above pic, that's why it's there.
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2019, 03:52:36 PM »
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2019, 06:12:12 PM »
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Good news!  I'll be watching the tracking numbers.

I ordered this rest/vice which should help also: CTK Precision P3 Ultimate Gun Vise.  I was shooting off of a bag the last time, and at 100 yards was not the best setup for this type of testing.
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22 Marauder Unregulated. Tuned using JSB 18.13gr:
30 Shots @ 31.02 FPE Avg., 1.36% ES, 1.58 FPE/CI
JSAR MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.  MMHF barrel
UTG compact SWAT 4-16x44 IR SFP
25 Marauder Regulated. Tuned using JSB MKIIs:
24 Shots @ 55.94 FPE Avg., 1.96% ES, 1.49 FPE/CI
JSAR SS Valve, MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x50 IR FFP
357 Slayer Unregulated. Tuned using NSA 142gr:
4 shots @ 275.60 FPE Avg., 2.33% ES, 1.23 FPE/CI
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x56 FFP
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2019, 05:47:31 PM »

@ Carl...The eagle has landed :)  I received two boxes today and all looks really good!  Thank you for letting me help with testing these.

I have been tuning on the Slayer today in preparation for the testing.  I cleaned the barrel again, and lubed up some NSA slugs with FP-10.  I think I know why the NSA .358s were harder to get grouped well.  When I ran them over the chrony, they were shooting in the low 700s.  This is what got me to turning some screws on the Slayer.  They run approximately 100 FPS slower than the .357 diameters do of the same/similar weight.

I figured out, on the tuning, that the hammer spring gives the curve and the balanced valve adjustment sets the power.  I used up all of my NSA 140gr .358 figuring this out, but at least I have a bell curve going now.  I didn't like the descending string I kept getting, so now I feel better about the tune.  It could be tweaked a little more, but I am stopping here.  I think it is a good balance between the .358s and the .357s for testing the slugs.

In the graph, starting with the top string, is my first string with a bell curve achieved.  The second, middle string is where I lengthened the valve dwell a bit more for a little more power.  I didn't want the .357 to go much higher.  The third, bottom string is the same tune as the middle string, but using the 142gr .357 slugs.  No more descending string as before the tuning changes.

I think I'm ready for testing soon.  That other super lube hasn't come in yet, but that's OK.  My concern is that the weather is suppose to be 8░ Friday morning, my first possible chance at the 100 yard range.  Anyways, I'll get something going as soon as I can. Some rain, ice and snow is messing with me currently, but should clear out soon.
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22 Marauder Unregulated. Tuned using JSB 18.13gr:
30 Shots @ 31.02 FPE Avg., 1.36% ES, 1.58 FPE/CI
JSAR MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.  MMHF barrel
UTG compact SWAT 4-16x44 IR SFP
25 Marauder Regulated. Tuned using JSB MKIIs:
24 Shots @ 55.94 FPE Avg., 1.96% ES, 1.49 FPE/CI
JSAR SS Valve, MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x50 IR FFP
357 Slayer Unregulated. Tuned using NSA 142gr:
4 shots @ 275.60 FPE Avg., 2.33% ES, 1.23 FPE/CI
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x56 FFP
DonnyFL Emperor LDC

Air Venturi 4500 psi compressor
Stickman fill assembly
60 min & 30 min 4500 psi CF tanks

Click here to download a Free Spreadsheet App (New Rev 05 ver. 11-16-18)

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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2019, 07:09:30 PM »
Nick made me some stretched 140 gr to weigh 152 gr and I noticed a big loss on FPS vs a cast 152 (the NOE/BBT one).  I think the difference is bore friction, the swaged slugs have a lot of surface in contact and most cast bullets have bands in contact but the grooves on the bullet don't have any friction.

I've noticed that the swaged foul much faster un-lubed than the cast un-lubed when I was testing what worked and what didn't with the Texan.  That's mainly why I shoot only lubed big bore now.  It never hurt accuracy vs dry but it sometimes helped and it d`sure helped extend cleaning intervals.
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2019, 07:29:52 PM »
Nick made me some stretched 140 gr to weigh 152 gr and I noticed a big loss on FPS vs a cast 152 (the NOE/BBT one).  I think the difference is bore friction, the swaged slugs have a lot of surface in contact and most cast bullets have bands in contact but the grooves on the bullet don't have any friction.

I've noticed that the swaged foul much faster un-lubed than the cast un-lubed when I was testing what worked and what didn't with the Texan.  That's mainly why I shoot only lubed big bore now.  It never hurt accuracy vs dry but it sometimes helped and it d`sure helped extend cleaning intervals.




I did pull a lot out of the bore after the first 100 yard session.  After getting all I could out with a pull-through using Kano oil, I used a bore snake with brush installed, but stopped at the breech O-ring to not damage it.  I got a lot more lead out with doing that.    When lubing the NSAs with FP-10,  I placed them on a t-shirt to remove excess, and there was a bit of lead dust or black removed by the shirt.  I'll be using lubed slugs from now on.


P.S.  Good point about the bands vs. the swaged.  I probably should check the tune on your cast to see.  I don't want them flying too fast when testing them.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2019, 07:43:03 PM by triggertreat »
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22 Marauder Unregulated. Tuned using JSB 18.13gr:
30 Shots @ 31.02 FPE Avg., 1.36% ES, 1.58 FPE/CI
JSAR MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.  MMHF barrel
UTG compact SWAT 4-16x44 IR SFP
25 Marauder Regulated. Tuned using JSB MKIIs:
24 Shots @ 55.94 FPE Avg., 1.96% ES, 1.49 FPE/CI
JSAR SS Valve, MDS Hammer, TSS and LW Air Tube mods.
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x50 IR FFP
357 Slayer Unregulated. Tuned using NSA 142gr:
4 shots @ 275.60 FPE Avg., 2.33% ES, 1.23 FPE/CI
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x56 FFP
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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2019, 08:00:42 PM »
This is copied out of another post but still applicable to cleaning big bores:

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I  have picked up a couple of nice air rifles cheap because they shot so badly.  But I bought them because I could see the bores were so badly fouled with crud and lead.

I use the Lead-Wipe-Away cloth patches on a very tight jag and run it completely from one end to the other of the barrel to completely out the other end, pull the rod out and reuse the patch for 10 or 11 passes half from one end, half from the other.  Do NOT scrub back and forth inside the barrel, the cloth is mildly abrasive and as it cuts the lead out chemically it also cuts it out with the lapping grit.  The lead will be gone and the barrel will be undamaged and very clean. A little like fire lapping.  Do be careful in the choke.

Then when the rifle is back together, I put a dab of JB Bore Cleaner paste on about 20 pellets nose and sides and shoot themů the JB polishes the bore and then I use Balistol to clean the JB out and oil the surface. It's polished like glass usually.

The rifles take a long time to foul and if you run a damp patch of Ballistol every 250 or 300 pellets it will not foul at all.

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Re: Added to the stable : .357 Slayer
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2019, 08:56:38 PM »
I use these bore cleaning wicks https://www.midwayusa.com/product/336353/military-surplus-german-bore-cleaning-wick-case-of-1000.  Ray (Tonykarter) sent me a bag of them.  I use them with a pull-through.  They are very tight fitting in the Slayer and scrub pretty good.  I don't like using abrasives, but I know the TJ barrels can handle a brass brush well.  I would like to get a bore cam so I can see if the bore is truly cleaned or not.
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