Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?



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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2019, 10:51:31 PM »
Ahhh, another good reason for me to go ahead and get that “bug buster” scope i’ve been thinking about for one of my 880’s.
 Should focus right in on those close range carpenter bees! :D

Bug buster is nice on the 880, but cost more then the gun LOL But you can bust some bugs
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It would be the first time in my life (65 years) that I paid more for the scope than the rifle if I do it....a lot more!
Lol, it does kind of go against the grain for me.

Thing is, these little rifles have proven accurate enough to justify doing it.
Real happy with my 3x9 Barska and 4x Winchester scopes too though... really all that’s needed.

These little 880’s will make a fella go overboard if he does’nt watch it lol!
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2019, 11:05:48 PM »
They shoot so nice, the bug buster just makes them real handy. Here is mine, but sadly that scope was only on temporally.

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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2019, 11:09:47 PM »
Wow Paulus.... it looks great with that scope on there.
Thanks for making me want one more lol!!
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2019, 11:22:44 PM »
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These little 880’s will make a fella go overboard if he does’nt watch it lol!

The thing to remember here is that although an 880 is an inexpensive gun, it shoots like a gun that is 2,3, 4 times the cost! That alone (for me) would justify putting a nice scope on it.

Then again, I'm one those nuts who takes a $60 Crosman 13XX and by the time I'm done with it I have $300 or more into it, but again, after all that, they shoot like a +$300 gun after my mod's.

Just my thoughts.
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2019, 11:33:55 PM »
They shoot so nice, the bug buster just makes them real handy. Here is mine, but sadly that scope was only on temporally.

That is a nice looking set up ... does the 880 have a scope on it now or is it an iron sight gun ?

PS: did you do any power mods on that gun or did you leave it stock ?

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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2019, 11:37:18 PM »
Wow Paulus.... it looks great with that scope on there.
Thanks for making me want one more lol!!

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+1 on that. Whose LDC is that on there?
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2019, 11:46:25 PM »
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These little 880’s will make a fella go overboard if he does’nt watch it lol!

The thing to remember here is that although an 880 is an inexpensive gun, it shoots like a gun that is 2,3, 4 times the cost! That alone (for me) would justify putting a nice scope on it.

Then again, I'm one those nuts who takes a $60 Crosman 13XX and by the time I'm done with it I have $300 or more into it, but again, after all that, they shoot like a +$300 gun when after my mod's.

Just my thoughts.

I agree 100% on both counts... the 880 and the 13xx.
They both far out shoot their price tags, along with a few others out there too on the low end of the price tree.
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2019, 12:02:41 AM »
My late model 880 is highly modified & can give any of my pumpers competition. I attribute most of it to it's hair trigger. Here are a few bulls at 10 meters w/open sights...
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2019, 12:17:20 AM »
My late model 880 is highly modified & can give any of my pumpers competition. I attribute most of it to it's hair trigger. Here are a few bulls at 10 meters w/open sights...

That is insane ... is that at 10yds, and what pellet, I can't see the writing ?

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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2019, 12:26:12 AM »
Nice shootin' there pardner!!

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I attribute most of it to it's hair trigger.

Without going into all the details (I know most of the tricks), can you give me the shorthand on what did you do to get a hair trigger?
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2019, 12:31:04 AM »
I'll give you all the info on it in the morning. Past this old man's bed time. ;)
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2-Prewar '42 312's, '68-'74 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), '86-'91 342 (non checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
Several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, & H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
Most notable- 2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, several Yellow & Golden Boys, several Model 1894's, others too many to list.
Crosman;
'49 101
Favorite everyday backyard plinker '71 880. Easy to pump & the sweetest modified trigger.

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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2019, 01:19:12 AM »
They shoot so nice, the bug buster just makes them real handy. Here is mine, but sadly that scope was only on temporally.

That is a nice looking set up ... does the 880 have a scope on it now or is it an iron sight gun ?

PS: did you do any power mods on that gun or did you leave it stock ?

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Since I do 99% of my shooting at night in the dark I must have a scope. So yes it does have a scope. It has the 3x9 center point that came on my trail np2 on it. The LDC is GEO and really makes things nice. I have not done any power mods. For me I cant hunt with air rifle in Washington. So I pest with it, the stock power at 10 pumps will more then take anything I would ever need to.
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2019, 03:41:31 AM »
The Bug-A-Salt Lawn and Garden guns are the best "Insect Removal Tool"!!!
I killed about 25,000 insects last summer.  Yes, 25 thousand.
I wore out 4 Bug-A-Salt Lawn and Garden guns.
They shoot about 6,000 times before they stop working, then Bug-A-Salt will replace them.
I sprayed the siding on my shed and my yard fence with hummingbird food and the ants and bugs come by the hundreds.
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2019, 09:15:19 AM »
My late model 880 as stated earlier is highly modified; straw barrel encased inside of an arrow bolt, front sight altered to accept the added diameter of the arrow bolt, bolt & straw barrel cushioned above lever arm pivot point, plastic receiver clam shells bolted in place, added weight to both stock & forearm grip clam shells, & highly modified the trigger & sear. With all this said I recommend you only modify the trigger & sear & add weight to the forearm grip & stock. These are the only mods I will explain at this time & here’s why; the stock trigger assembly is atrocious & there is no weight to speak of to help balance the gun. There is no way you can group shots consistently with these two factors alone.  Once you’ve addressed these two issues, & I say this with the utmost respect; learn how to shoot your guns.

That last comment is a tough pill to swallow as it was for me. I knew all there was to shooting guns & no one was going to tell me otherwise. It wasn’t until I spent time over at the “Shooting Match Gates” that I realized I didn’t have a clue the skills necessary to achieve the results l was hoping for. I was dumb founded as to how those members could knock down bulls the size of their pellets day after day like they were the size of dimes. It took a lot of time at the range to finally piece it together.

My recommendation at this point is to read the information on this link (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=140500.0) & spend a lot of time on the range putting each step into practice until it becomes routine. To barrow a phrase from a wise man; "until you master these steps you'll be spittin in the wind". My apologies if I've offended anyone but I have never been one to tip toe through the tulips. ;)

In the mean time I’ll gather up those two mods which are scattered everywhere in this gate & post them here.
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Several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, & H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
Most notable- 2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, several Yellow & Golden Boys, several Model 1894's, others too many to list.
Crosman;
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2019, 09:48:13 AM »
My late model 880 is highly modified & can give any of my pumpers competition. I attribute most of it to it's hair trigger. Here are a few bulls at 10 meters w/open sights...

That is insane ... is that at 10yds, and what pellet, I can't see the writing ?

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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68-'74 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), '86-'91 342 (non checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
Several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, & H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
Most notable- 2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, several Yellow & Golden Boys, several Model 1894's, others too many to list.
Crosman;
'49 101
Favorite everyday backyard plinker '71 880. Easy to pump & the sweetest modified trigger.

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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2019, 10:04:55 AM »
Nice shootin' there pardner!!

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I attribute most of it to it's hair trigger.

Without going into all the details (I know most of the tricks), can you give me the shorthand on what did you do to get a hair trigger?
Here you go Dennis. Since there are no short answers I'll go ahead & explain it here;

Increased the angle of the drop off which shortened the ramp, then buffed & polished the entire trigger assembly to remove all casting burrs. Also streamlined the trigger.

I used needle files, then wet & dry fine sand paper (all under high magnification), & finished them off with my power buffer & wax polishing compounds (jewelers rouge).

My recommendation is to keep assembling & disassembling until you get the pull your after. Do not change the pitch of the ramp. It will be shortened while increasing the angle of the drop off. Make these alterations all the way to the face of the hammer. If not, the trigger will hang up & will not roll off the ramp as it should. Use caution because too light a trigger pull is just as bad & obviously much more dangerous!
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68-'74 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), '86-'91 342 (non checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
Several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, & H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
Most notable- 2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, several Yellow & Golden Boys, several Model 1894's, others too many to list.
Crosman;
'49 101
Favorite everyday backyard plinker '71 880. Easy to pump & the sweetest modified trigger.

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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2019, 10:06:12 AM »
I would say fun but not effective, hehe.  Big furry pest require traps, small insect pest require spray!
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2019, 10:46:51 AM »
Adding weight to the stock is straight forward. IIRC it takes about a tube of silicone.
 
As for the clam shells; fill to the edge of the support veins. Let the silicone begin to set up. Reinstall both clams right before the silicone hardens. It will form its own casting. Not the prettiest but it works.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68-'74 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), '86-'91 342 (non checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
Several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, & H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
Most notable- 2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, several Yellow & Golden Boys, several Model 1894's, others too many to list.
Crosman;
'49 101
Favorite everyday backyard plinker '71 880. Easy to pump & the sweetest modified trigger.

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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2019, 11:06:03 AM »
Thanks Marty.

All I've done so far is to remove the leaf spring and file the 45 degree angle on the sear contact, leaving enough flat on top for a secure lockup. Also polished all contact areas. Right now I'm happy with mine.

After you filled the fore grips, did you dig out where the metal tabs insert/slide into the center spine? Otherwise, I think they would be loose, as the only other attachment is the front screws.

I have one plastic and two metal receivers. Where/how did you "bolt" the clamshell halves?
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Re: Daisy 880 As An Insect Removal Tool ?
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2019, 11:24:35 AM »
You are welcome Dennis.

This mod is only for the late model 880. The center keepers for the clam shells ride above the surface so the silicone is not a problem.

I have since purchased a couple of nice metal receiver 880's & are night & day compared to these feather weight late models. Plenty of weight on those. I've had so many coals on the fire lately that I haven't had a chance to run them through their paces aside from an occasional plink, but there is no doubt they will be a far cry performance wise from these late models. I doubt I'll do any mods on those...their that nice. ;)

...Oh ya...that flat spring was the first thing to hit the trash.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68-'74 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), '86-'91 342 (non checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
Several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, & H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
Most notable- 2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, several Yellow & Golden Boys, several Model 1894's, others too many to list.
Crosman;
'49 101
Favorite everyday backyard plinker '71 880. Easy to pump & the sweetest modified trigger.

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