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Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« on: January 04, 2019, 07:31:12 AM »
So my Gauntlet .25 cal came in yesterday evening. Delivery was perfectly timed with the new carpet cleaner, avoiding the wife's scrutiny.  My pellet order is due Monday, and the pump on Thursday.

The Gauntlet nice, with the barrel band  - yet with the typical forearm misalignment. I really want to take it apart, clean it and and do some hammer & tube buffing, trigger adjustment, air stripper repair (haven't checked it yet), etc. But my common sense side says to just clean the barrel, mount a scope and wait to bench and chrony it as is - in case there is a major issue with it necessitating a return. I'll throe on one of my vintage Japanese Tasco Trajectory Rangefinding 4-12x scopes on it.

After a bit, I plan on purchasing & installing the JSAR Super Tune kit (thanks @Hajimoto), doing a reg check/adjustment, and perhaps a modified baffle. I can tell this is going to be quite enjoyable to hunt squirrels with. Now if I can only get my wife to forget about her childhood pet squirrel and eat some delicious stew... ::)
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2019, 08:06:09 AM »
It will be interesting to see what your stock regulator pressure is. I received my .25 yesterday. I don't have a reg. tester at this time but plan on putting one together in the future.
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2019, 12:11:36 PM »
My gauntlet's reg was set at 1900 out of the box ,I bumped it up to 2050 with one shim 0.0100 thick, I  need a different gage on on reg checker to vet a more accurate  reading ,stock reg shot 25.6 jsb at 860fps after shimming ave was 933 gonna leave it there for now, air stirpper was cracked replaced with Haji and hill baffles works great
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2019, 12:19:07 PM »
So my Gauntlet .25 cal came in yesterday evening. Delivery was perfectly timed with the new carpet cleaner, avoiding the wife's scrutiny.  My pellet order is due Monday, and the pump on Thursday.

The Gauntlet nice, with the barrel band  - yet with the typical forearm misalignment. I really want to take it apart, clean it and and do some hammer & tube buffing, trigger adjustment, air stripper repair (haven't checked it yet), etc. But my common sense side says to just clean the barrel, mount a scope and wait to bench and chrony it as is - in case there is a major issue with it necessitating a return. I'll throe on one of my vintage Japanese Tasco Trajectory Rangefinding 4-12x scopes on it.

After a bit, I plan on purchasing & installing the JSAR Super Tune kit (thanks @Hajimoto), doing a reg check/adjustment, and perhaps a modified baffle. I can tell this is going to be quite enjoyable to hunt squirrels with. Now if I can only get my wife to forget about her childhood pet squirrel and eat some delicious stew... ::)

Go with your gut,

Don't really tear into anything until you can do some testing. Maybe check the barrel and transferport alignment and clean the barrel. Then just wait for the pump and shoot some groups!

I dove head first into a gauntlet .22 not realizing I got a bad barrel. Breech end was machined with a choke and the pellet nearly fell out the muzzle. They didn't warranty it even after shooting it off a bench at the facility yeielding 1.25" groups with the best pellets at 20 yards and just over 1/2" at 10. Make sure it's accurate then have some fun.
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2019, 02:12:45 PM »
So my Gauntlet .25 cal came in yesterday evening. Delivery was perfectly timed with the new carpet cleaner, avoiding the wife's scrutiny.  My pellet order is due Monday, and the pump on Thursday.

The Gauntlet nice, with the barrel band  - yet with the typical forearm misalignment. I really want to take it apart, clean it and and do some hammer & tube buffing, trigger adjustment, air stripper repair (haven't checked it yet), etc. But my common sense side says to just clean the barrel, mount a scope and wait to bench and chrony it as is - in case there is a major issue with it necessitating a return. I'll throe on one of my vintage Japanese Tasco Trajectory Rangefinding 4-12x scopes on it.

After a bit, I plan on purchasing & installing the JSAR Super Tune kit (thanks @Hajimoto), doing a reg check/adjustment, and perhaps a modified baffle. I can tell this is going to be quite enjoyable to hunt squirrels with. Now if I can only get my wife to forget about her childhood pet squirrel and eat some delicious stew... ::)

Go with your gut,

Don't really tear into anything until you can do some testing. Maybe check the barrel and transferport alignment and clean the barrel. Then just wait for the pump and shoot some groups!

I love head first into a gauntlet .22 not realizing I got a bad barrel. Breech end was machined with a choke and the pellet nearly fell out the muzzle. They didn't warranty it even after shooting it off a bench at the facility yeielding 1.25" groups with the best pellets at 20 yards and just over 1/2" at 10. Make sure it's accurate then have some fun.
Good advice.
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2019, 02:16:26 PM »
My gauntlet's reg was set at 1900 out of the box ,I bumped it up to 2050 with one shim 0.0100 thick, I  need a different gage on on reg checker to vet a more accurate  reading ,stock reg shot 25.6 jsb at 860fps after shimming ave was 933 gonna leave it there for now, air stirpper was cracked replaced with Haji and hill baffles works great
Good to hear the regulator setting is what is advertised. Headed  out to the shop to clean the barrel and mount the scope as soon as I have the shop warmed up.
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2019, 04:59:23 PM »
Congrats! I just used a .25 Gauntlet for some testing, and, at over 40 FPE,  it's quite a power house. That also means that it uses quite a bit of air. Hope you enjoy pumping. cause you're going to be doing a lot of it! :-)
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2019, 08:50:35 PM »
So my Gauntlet .25 cal came in yesterday evening. Delivery was perfectly timed with the new carpet cleaner, avoiding the wife's scrutiny.  My pellet order is due Monday, and the pump on Thursday.

The Gauntlet nice, with the barrel band  - yet with the typical forearm misalignment. I really want to take it apart, clean it and and do some hammer & tube buffing, trigger adjustment, air stripper repair (haven't checked it yet), etc. But my common sense side says to just clean the barrel, mount a scope and wait to bench and chrony it as is - in case there is a major issue with it necessitating a return. I'll throe on one of my vintage Japanese Tasco Trajectory Rangefinding 4-12x scopes on it.

After a bit, I plan on purchasing & installing the JSAR Super Tune kit (thanks @Hajimoto), doing a reg check/adjustment, and perhaps a modified baffle. I can tell this is going to be quite enjoyable to hunt squirrels with. Now if I can only get my wife to forget about her childhood pet squirrel and eat some delicious stew... ::)

Go with your gut,

Don't really tear into anything until you can do some testing. Maybe check the barrel and transferport alignment and clean the barrel. Then just wait for the pump and shoot some groups!

I love head first into a gauntlet .22 not realizing I got a bad barrel. Breech end was machined with a choke and the pellet nearly fell out the muzzle. They didn't warranty it even after shooting it off a bench at the facility yeielding 1.25" groups with the best pellets at 20 yards and just over 1/2" at 10. Make sure it's accurate then have some fun.
Good advice.

Absolutely. The situation Cameron unfortunately experienced is exactly what I'd like to avoid. I can check the port alignments and mic the opening and barrel at the breech and other locations, while I'm at it. In the meantime, I will keep busy cleaning some powderburners for their yearly hibernation.

The one thing I demand of all of my firearms is accuracy. Small game is ..... small. And I can tell you from experience that big game like elk is also "dang" small at 900 yards. With the right arm and relentless practice, nothing is too small. The reason I got the Gauntlet is because it's generally accurate out of the box, at a price point where I can improve on the platform with reasonable abandon.

Thanks for the gut check y'all, and I'll report back with findings.
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2019, 09:03:39 PM »
The reg on mine was only 1600 psi out of the box.  I have a 23 ci tank I had set up for my .22 Gauntlet.  I upped the reg on that one to 2050 psi, but have not had a chance to shoot it yet.  Hopefully I will tomorrow.  It is very accurate with the stock tank and is slinging 26 grain Polymags at 853 fps producing 42 fpe.  Not bad for being bone stock. 
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2019, 04:09:30 AM »
Congrats! I just used a .25 Gauntlet for some testing, and, at over 40 FPE,  it's quite a power house. That also means that it uses quite a bit of air. Hope you enjoy pumping. cause you're going to be doing a lot of it! :-)

 ;) The things you do for squirrel stew!
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2019, 04:21:10 AM »
The reg on mine was only 1600 psi out of the box.  I have a 23 ci tank I had set up for my .22 Gauntlet.  I upped the reg on that one to 2050 psi, but have not had a chance to shoot it yet.  Hopefully I will tomorrow.  It is very accurate with the stock tank and is slinging 26 grain Polymags at 853 fps producing 42 fpe.  Not bad for being bone stock.

Congrats on getting a good one! Please report your results!
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2019, 11:06:31 AM »
Congrats! I just used a .25 Gauntlet for some testing, and, at over 40 FPE,  it's quite a power house. That also means that it uses quite a bit of air. Hope you enjoy pumping. cause you're going to be doing a lot of it! :-)

I'm too darn old to be hand pumping. I bought a Crosman Benjamin pump with my first PCP.
I'll be 68 in March, I could hand pump still but I would rather spend the short time left on this earth shooting. ;D
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2019, 11:44:35 AM »
My gauntlet's reg was set at 1900 out of the box ,I bumped it up to 2050 with one shim 0.0100 thick, I  need a different gage on on reg checker to vet a more accurate  reading ,stock reg shot 25.6 jsb at 860fps after shimming ave was 933 gonna leave it there for now, air stirpper was cracked replaced with Haji and hill baffles works great
Ironman-I picked this gauge up from Amazon for reg. tester easy to read:/www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QJ95S3A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2019, 11:50:49 AM »
Also added 23cu.in. bottle & added (1) flat shim(.010) to reg.(mine was lower than 1900 originally) Jsb went from 870's to 915- barrel band shim was missing, but Zack from Umerex is sending one- also, the 43 gr. Eujin fits in clip & shoots well- Waiting on another reg. tester(mine @$%^ the bed) to determine exact pressure.
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2019, 11:51:46 AM »
Congrats! I just used a .25 Gauntlet for some testing, and, at over 40 FPE,  it's quite a power house. That also means that it uses quite a bit of air. Hope you enjoy pumping. cause you're going to be doing a lot of it! :-)

Correct on using a lot of air as delivered by Umarex..... 

After extensive testing/tuning on the Gauntlet 25 I can share a few simple things that are game changers with regards to air consumption.

1) Make sure the barrel port and transfer port are matched.  Mine was severely mismatched.

2) install a harder valve poppet.  At minimum delrin, preferably peek.  This will make the valve much easier to open.

3) tune to your reg setting by adjusting hammer spring tension--- trim spring, change spring, add a preload adjuster, etc.

With these 3 things you will be able to  increase shot count by 1.5 to 2x over as delivered by Umarex.
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2019, 04:12:24 PM »
Also added 23cu.in. bottle & added (1) flat shim(.010) to reg.(mine was lower than 1900 originally) Jsb went from 870's to 915- barrel band shim was missing, but Zack from Umerex is sending one- also, the 43 gr. Eujin fits in clip & shoots well- Waiting on another reg. tester(mine @$%^ the bed) to determine exact pressure.

I've got my 23ci tank adjusted to 2050 psi and the JSB 25.39 grain pellets went from 860 fps/43 fpe to 922 fps/48 fpe.  I added one .010 shim to the OEM regulator and upped it from 1600 psi to 1900 psi, which is what it should have been to begin with!  I have both filled to 3000 psi and am letting them sit overnight to check for leaks before I start some further pellet testing.
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2019, 04:19:58 PM »
Congrats! I just used a .25 Gauntlet for some testing, and, at over 40 FPE,  it's quite a power house. That also means that it uses quite a bit of air. Hope you enjoy pumping. cause you're going to be doing a lot of it! :-)

Correct on using a lot of air as delivered by Umarex..... 

After extensive testing/tuning on the Gauntlet 25 I can share a few simple things that are game changers with regards to air consumption.

1) Make sure the barrel port and transfer port are matched.  Mine was severely mismatched.

2) install a harder valve poppet.  At minimum delrin, preferably peek.  This will make the valve much easier to open.

3) tune to your reg setting by adjusting hammer spring tension--- trim spring, change spring, add a preload adjuster, etc.

With these 3 things you will be able to  increase shot count by 1.5 to 2x over as delivered by Umarex.

Thanks for the advice Mike. I'm going through mine now.

One surprise was that the air stripper was NOT cracked. That O-ring though.... :o

Also, whatever they use to keep that barrel from rusting keeps coming. I've gone through 25 Otis patches so far, and I'm not done!

My buddy is coming over with some .25 pellets, and I'm going to push some through and take a look at the chamber and rifling results. Surprisingly, the crown looks nicely done. Next I will check the port alignments, and then adjust the trigger.

If the test firing goes well next week, I'm going to get the JSA tune kit.
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2019, 04:22:06 PM »
Question on reg. tester- do you need a slide check or will the standalone ninja remote with gauge installed work in order to bleed after checking?
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2019, 04:33:09 PM »
The slide check will release the pressure and make it easier to remove the tester from the regulator.  When it's under pressure, even after closing the valve, makes it very difficult to unscrew.
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Re: Got Gauntlet .25 - don't have pellets or pump
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2019, 08:49:22 PM »
Whelp, I blew my Ninja slide check out on my regulator tester as soon as I opened the valve. Conclusion, it put out more than the valve can take. Suggestions?
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