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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2018, 07:02:27 PM »
Just purchased my first .22 cal (RWS 34P), Do you all stay with 1 or purchase multiple caliber's? NOT talking about hunting but what is your preference?
Years ago I bought a .177 Beeman R9 and was pleased with it, however I "drank the fat pellet mo better" Koolaid and bought a .20 cal Beeman R9. Being disappointed in the performance of the .20 cal pellet vs the .177 for squirrel hunting I bought a .22 cal Beeman R1 barrel, had it chopped and choked, and replaced the .20 barrel. Was also disappointed with the .22 cal (for a HW95 power level springer) so both the .20 & .22 barrel was sold. I reverted back to .177 a couple decades ago never to look back.

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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2018, 08:51:10 PM »
Hi Ed, I'm still using the targets that you sent me years ago, thank you again. The .22 was something I just had to try, who knows it could be my 1 and only.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2018, 02:22:24 PM »
I use .177, .22, and .25.  My .25 is a springer, and prefer Polymags.  Still, I plink with it, as well as using it for pesting and hunting.  It's no different than buying bullets for powderburners- find a gun you like and buy ammo.  Once you've bought a few firearms, you want to try something different.  Factor in managing pests and occasional hunting (mostly in the woods short-range stuff), then yeah, those 3 calibers work for me. 

Simply stated, I like diversity.  I love Mexican food but sometimes I want to have spaghetti or Chinese food.  No one type of cuisine meets all my desires; likewise, why should I limit myself in shooting?  For that matter, as much as I like airguns, I prefer my flat-band slingshots more, though my most-used slingshot is an old Tru-Mark with tubular bands cut from surgical tubing, and my ammo ranges from acorns to marbles with a health smattering of steel and lead shot.  I'm as likely to grab my horsebow, a longbow, or slingshot as I am one of my airguns, so one single caliber in airguns just isn't gonna scratch the itch, especially since I'm not just doing one type of shooting.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2018, 03:21:56 PM »
No!
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2018, 04:46:26 PM »
I was just going to be a .177 air gunner.
Tried a Beeman Kodiak x2 and shot .22 and thought"this is too much" harsh,twangy.(synthetic stock)
 Parted with it.
Then rebuilt a Crosman 130,and then found and resealed a Sears/Crosman 1400.  ;D
So,I started liking .22.
Then I tried another Beeman Kodiak....... Parted with it also! ::)
 I have a B3-2 in .22 that I got from Amazon,and went through it and it is a nice behaving .22 Springer.
Most of my pellets come from WallyWorld so .177 and .22 is whats available. 8)
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2018, 10:38:29 AM »
I pretty much stay with small bore , I have an assortment of rifles in .177, .22. and .25.  If I had to trade them all in for one gun (which is not realistic), I would get and insanely nice .22...and figure out where to hide a couple more guns.  ;D

After a few years of airgunning these are the personal guidelines I have settled on:

If just back yard paper punching or target shooting, a mid-power springer in either .177 or .22 is sufficient.
If I'm going to get a "magnum power" springer (18+fpe), it will be a .22, much more effiicient use of power.  Above 20fpe I'm just going to go for a PCP.

I've decided that I'm not really interested in .177 PCPs unless I'm going to compete, for informal shooting an excellent quality springer is fine. I decided this after I bought the .177 PCP I have, but I won't buy another one.

I have a .25 PCP, I love shooting it, and I don't get to shoot it so much that ammo cost is a significant barrier. But in general I've decided that for my hunting needs (squirrel) a .22 PCP is plenty sufficient. I prefer one at 30fpe, but that is probably just the part of me that is a power-mad American, you don't really need that much power to effectively squirrel hunt.

And all my other air rifles are around because I bought them in this process of learning and shooting, and I just don't really have a good reason to sell them.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2018, 02:20:10 PM »
Mark, I agree with your last sentence. It took me a while to realize that I love springers and that's all I want to shoot now. BUT when they stop being fun (to hard) to cock I will still have my CO2 rifles and pistols. Hopefull I can shoot springers until i'm 80+.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2018, 05:05:07 PM »
Mark, I agree with your last sentence. It took me a while to realize that I love springers and that's all I want to shoot now. BUT when they stop being fun (to hard) to cock I will still have my CO2 rifles and pistols. Hopefull I can shoot springers until i'm 80+.
I have a somewhat comparable reason for owning the rifles I do.
My three PCPs are CO2 compatible, Disco without adjustments, MRod with adjustments and my favorite Talon-SS with just a quick tank change.   All are 22 cal...
The Benji's can be tethered to a paintball tank for bench/tabletop large scale shoot, such as a starling horde invasion.   
I have equipment for direct fill and tethered.   
My two  breakbarrels are good shooters, the Benji Trail-AW is also 22 cal but the D34P is 177 as I won it here on the forum and didn't have a choice. 

I hand pump the PCPs but may not be able to for much longer as I've developed severe back trouble, so the CO2 will be my final fuel choice.

So far the arms and shoulders are fully functional for cocking the breakbarrels.   
But I'm not getting any younger, 73 next month.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2018, 08:01:58 PM »
I'm a fan of .22. It's a cheap and easy caliber to find and buy.  Have I mentioned that I have short arms and long pockets? .22 also makes nice holes in paper and biggish holes in cans......makes biggish holes in starlings too.  8)   A great all around caliber for plinking airgun fun.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2018, 10:36:50 AM »
Not as much of a selection of .22 cal pellets in the big box stores in my area.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2018, 12:07:41 PM »
Not as much of a selection of .22 cal pellets in the big box stores in my area.

I hear you. I buy my ammo from pyramid air.......in bulk. They have a nice selection, free shipping deals now and then, buy three get one free, and decent prices. Must have near 20,000 .22 pellets, at this point. I should stop buying ammo. At my age I have a lifetime supply.  :-\
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2018, 01:47:04 PM »
Stuart, Yea, I agree with PA, all of my .177 pellets came from them except occasional Walmart deals. they had RWS Superdomes (500) for $4 last year, got 16 tins and won't need those for a while. Surprisingly  my RWS 34P .22 cal shoots CPHP very very well. $5.82 (500) off the shelf @ Walmart.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2018, 02:12:11 PM »
 Which area of Mass? I know a few places that stock pellets and one that has all brands of pellets.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2018, 02:16:24 PM »
Eddie, Walmart in Danvers MA. What Walmart are you visiting with a good selection. Danvers has Crosman & Gamo mostly .177.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2018, 02:51:38 PM »
Barrel collection...
.17 HMR,  Savage 24", button tapered // .22 lr, Berreta 25" hammer forged Choked  // .22lr, Shultz & Larson 27 " cut bull // 22lr Remminton 24"  button // .22lr, Marlin 24" button micro groove // .22 WMR  Marlin 23" button micro groove / / .22 hornet Heym 24" Hammer forged tapered
and a bunch of Crosman barrels and a couple L.W. and a Daisy 953 barrel

want

.22-250 14 twist

.22 Savage High Power (.227) (5.6 X 52R) 12 twist

.244 Remington  12 twist

maybe a slow twist  .264.. ;) 

So yep would love to see even more calibers...

« Last Edit: December 09, 2018, 02:56:02 PM by K.O. »
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1322 steel breech 14.5" barrel, 640-650 fps @ 22 pumps w/14.3g CPHP

1322 MLT steel breech 19" barrel, 682 fps @ 22 pumps w/14.3g CPHP,  13xx/66 hybrid

1322XLT 22" barrel, 700 fps  @ 11 pumps & 750 @ 16 w/14.3g CPHP,   13xx/2100 hybrid

MK-1322 steel breech 22" barrel, 750 fps @ 17 pumps & 805 @ 22 w/14.3g CPHP,   Mk-177/2240/13xx hybrid

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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2018, 02:58:01 PM »
Not as much of a selection of .22 cal pellets in the big box stores in my area.
I hear ya.  Several of my airguns do well with Crosman pellets, so it's a win for me.

I hope you can keep shooting until you're ready to stop.  My 2400KT remains my favorite airgun during CO2-season :)
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2018, 08:06:53 PM »
Thank's Peter. The RWS 34P seems to love Crosman CPHP and Piranha pellets. I have not tried the RWS pellets but I don't know how they could be any better?
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2018, 10:27:38 PM »
I was just going to be a .177 air gunner.
Tried a Beeman Kodiak x2 and shot .22 and thought"this is too much" harsh,twangy.(synthetic stock)
 Parted with it.
Then rebuilt a Crosman 130,and then found and resealed a Sears/Crosman 1400.  ;D
So,I started liking .22.
Then I tried another Beeman Kodiak....... Parted with it also! ::)
 I have a B3-2 in .22 that I got from Amazon,and went through it and it is a nice behaving .22 Springer.
Most of my pellets come from WallyWorld so .177 and .22 is whats available. 8)

Is the RS2 a B19? Maybe the gun was the problem?
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2018, 10:37:33 PM »
Barrel collection...
.17 HMR,  Savage 24", button tapered // .22 lr, Berreta 25" hammer forged Choked  // .22lr, Shultz & Larson 27 " cut bull // 22lr Remminton 24"  button // .22lr, Marlin 24" button micro groove // .22 WMR  Marlin 23" button micro groove / / .22 hornet Heym 24" Hammer forged tapered
and a bunch of Crosman barrels and a couple L.W. and a Daisy 953 barrel

want

.22-250 14 twist

.22 Savage High Power (.227) (5.6 X 52R) 12 twist

.244 Remington  12 twist

maybe a slow twist  .264.. ;) 

So yep would love to see even more calibers...

What do you think of microgroove? Does it get leaded up faster?

I saw somewhere around here someone repurposed a microgroove marlin barrel for a P17. I guess it would make a better pellet barrel than Ballard cut as I would figure it would take less energy to swage projectile into the grooves.
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Re: Do you stay with 1 caliber ?
« Reply #59 on: December 09, 2018, 11:33:30 PM »
That would be Stalwart...

Well the .22 lr  is very seasoned... read very well polished & worn rifling... plenty for up to 60 fpe tho... Eun Jin should do excellent and have some molds... 

The .22 WMR is unfired and it needs lapping... rough and catchy right now... will probably fire lapp with some 10-20 micron diamond paste or similar  bore grit... then some 7 micron finishing with JB bore paste...

the Wheeler 600grit  (~30 micron) is to course imo...

Have not ran into a  leading prob in a microgroove barrel but most of us stayed with standard velocity rounds... My ex Has her dads still...

 Point is in a .22 sub sonic air rifle you should not be getting much leading...except if you have a rough barrel... even if you have a choked barrel leading should only happen if the choke has a rough spot... like machining artifacts from drilling...

even the hammer forged barrels should be honed to final pre hammering size, to prevent transfer to the bore of any machining marks...

Heym does  TJ liner and BSA do not hone I think... so yeah it will depend on the barrel some will need some help  others not so much...



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PC77 steel breech 18.7" barrel,  700 fps @ 15 & 755 @ 20 pumps with 7.4g Crosman points

1322 steel breech 14.5" barrel, 640-650 fps @ 22 pumps w/14.3g CPHP

1322 MLT steel breech 19" barrel, 682 fps @ 22 pumps w/14.3g CPHP,  13xx/66 hybrid

1322XLT 22" barrel, 700 fps  @ 11 pumps & 750 @ 16 w/14.3g CPHP,   13xx/2100 hybrid

MK-1322 steel breech 22" barrel, 750 fps @ 17 pumps & 805 @ 22 w/14.3g CPHP,   Mk-177/2240/13xx hybrid

U.S. Shooting Team 953  reduced valve, 525 fps w/ 7.4g points

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