Are you a Clicker – or Hold’er-Over? – Why Do You Prefer One Method?

[Yogi]

Being a back yard shooter? I find it's wasted time to adjust my scope by changing the settings once zeroed.
I zero at 50 yards and know all my hold unders and overs for any given range from 10 yards out to 110 yards.
I'm also pretty good at judging the winds. So I hold left or right as needed.
Did you know the longest Sniper Kill on Record used Hold over/hold left Mil-Dots to complete the shot?

Was that the Canadian fellow?

-Y

[Bryan Heimann]

Being a back yard shooter? I find it's wasted time to adjust my scope by changing the settings once zeroed.
I zero at 50 yards and know all my hold unders and overs for any given range from 10 yards out to 110 yards.
I'm also pretty good at judging the winds. So I hold left or right as needed.
Did you know the longest Sniper Kill on Record used Hold over/hold left Mil-Dots to complete the shot?

Was that the Canadian fellow?

-Y

I wonder what type of reticle?  If I could guess it would be a horus or something similar.

Not just talking mil dot or half mil dot, think air max reticle on steroids with more hold points than I am even comfortable looking at.

Great tools but just not my liking.  I would get a headache staring at that!  But I'm not a sniper hehe

It's only been in recent years that Snipers have a spotter to help adjust shots.
The greatest in WWI and WWII and through Vietnam at times, were solo shooters.
A click on the scope adjustments can give away your position.
Now for fun shooting? It's fine if that works for you. I prefer to know how to use the mil-dots.
That's why they are in the scope. If you don't like them? Why buy a scope with them?

Well if you wanna bring up WWI and WWII, vietnam, etc.  you are talking about german #1 reticles and 4 or 6x fixed scopes.  Pretty sure Carlos Hathcock used a Unertle fixed 10x with crosshairs and I bet he was a clicker whenever it was an option.

[Mossonarock]

The only clicking I do is with a ball point pen.

The ranges I shoot at, 25 - 50m, is so short that hold-overs is enough and even then rarely needed.

Besides, most of my scopes are sub$200 and I wouldn't trust them to stay on zero if I was constantly twisting the elevation knob around.

[Yogi]

You really need resettable turrets if you are a clicker.

-Y

[F/V Icy Swan]

hold over here, at least for now.

mike

[FWB-Springer124]

hold over center x 30 yrs . top duplex  closer shots & bottom for longer shots. the only time I fleck is sighting in. or changing pellets.
springer

[Wolverineshooter]

How about hold over + click combination?

I can zero scope in a way with a small kill zone, say 0.5 inches, and use the hold over within the range that the reticle would allow.  This way I can just aim and shoot within the range determined by the kill zone.

Beyond that, for the likely rare scenario, I can use click to change to a dramatically different zero, close to maximum allowed,  to extend the shooting range.

This assumes the gun shoots fast and accurate enough, and the scope is high quality so both zeros are reproducible.

[BackStop]

Hold over.   Honestly, because I am too lazy to do the math for clicks.  ((chuckle))

Oh... and I simply don't trust the scope to come back to zero, even my better scopes.

[Wolverineshooter]

I bought the SWFA and Discovery scopes supposed have good tracking. Have not tested it yet

[JungleShooter]

Wow, thank you all for chiming in and giving your opinions and practices. 😄


Frankly, I'm very surprised at the general trend — most are hold'er-overs, few are clickers. 🤔

I had at least assumed that the field target crowd and the long range shooters would have been clickers (or maybe they just didn't respond to this post?)....



One reason frequently mentioned why people are not clickers is — they want to keep it simple (same principle why some favor a springer vs. a PCP — "just grab the gun and a can of pellets" type of simple). 😊
Yeah, that can almost be made into a philosphy for living. I don't share that philosophy, but I can see how it is attractive. 👍🏼



🔶 So, that means that most of you would be fine with and even would prefer capped turrets....
Well, that explains whey so many manufacturers have so many models with capped turrets....

🔶 And it explains why there are so many scopes out there where the turrets don't match the reticle (often MOA turrets, with a MIL reticle)....

🔶 It also explains why there is much more talk about features of reticles,[/i] and very little talk about features of turrets (e.g.: turret turn counters, an even 10 mils per turret revolution, instead of an uneven 6 or 4.8mil).



Keep the comments coming! — I'm still trying to figure out what methods I will use or learn to use as my hobby develops...! 😄

Matthias

[mobilehomer]

Wow, thank you all for chiming in and giving your opinions and practices. 😄


Frankly, I'm very surprised at the general trend — most are hold'er-overs, few are clickers. 🤔

I had at least assumed that the field target crowd and the long range shooters would have been clickers (or maybe they just didn't respond to this post?)....



One reason frequently mentioned why people are not clickers is — they want to keep it simple (same principle why some favor a springer vs. a PCP — "just grab the gun and a can of pellets" type of simple). 😊
Yeah, that can almost be made into a philosphy for living. I don't share that philosophy, but I can see how it is attractive. 👍🏼



🔶 So, that means that most of you would be fine with and even would prefer capped turrets....
Well, that explains whey so many manufacturers have so many models with capped turrets....

🔶 And it explains why there are so many scopes out there where the turrets don't match the reticle (often MOA turrets, with a MIL reticle)....

🔶 It also explains why there is much more talk about features of reticles,[/i] and very little talk about features of turrets (e.g.: turret turn counters, an even 10 mils per turret revolution, instead of an uneven 6 or 4.8mil).



Keep the comments coming! — I'm still trying to figure out what methods I will use or learn to use as my hobby develops...! 😄

Matthias

FYI no clicking or power shifting in HFT. 

[Josan]

I shoot HFT. No clicking there. So i set up the rifle and scope. Record the drop at various distances and have Chairgun print a reticle for me that i stick to the scope.

[Luis Leon]

It depends on the scope. With my latest the adjustments are solid and repeatable. So I’m experimenting with clicking. Have yet to decide, for me the drawback is forgetting to dial back while pesting. But it is really neat to dial and get the hits without holding over. So I would say I use both, depending on what’s being shot at.

[Yogi]

I shoot HFT. No clicking there. So i set up the rifle and scope. Record the drop at various distances and have Chairgun print a reticle for me that i stick to the scope.

What is your zero?  What is your scope?

-Y

[Josan]

I shoot HFT. No clicking there. So i set up the rifle and scope. Record the drop at various distances and have Chairgun print a reticle for me that i stick to the scope.

What is your zero?  What is your scope?

-Y

Many scopes and many rifles. And different magnifications! And sometimes different pellets. The picture is only and example. 

But in 0.177 at 12 fpe i usually zero around 28 yards/25-26m.