P 17 problem



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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2018, 09:55:12 AM »
Finally got the air tube crimp cut out to remove the air tube from the valve body. Squared up the tube and replaced the oring. Reassembled pistol and took it out back shot a few rounds through it. Shot fine for 10 rounds and started getting weak. the suction of recocking was pulling the tube off of the valve body. Hence the need for a crimp. Don't know if I will pursue this any further. Probably just pick up a new P 17.
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2018, 10:31:26 AM »
Use a fuel injection hose clamp to apply even pressure around the tube over the O-ring to hold the tube in position and keep it from bending then carefully peen the edge over in a few places to hold it on the valve. I would make several shallow cuts in the end of the tube to help keep it from distorting.
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2018, 12:03:47 PM »
I would certainly try to seat it with a bead of epoxy sealer at the base and then a crimp before the epoxy sets.  Might try golf club shafting epoxy as that stuff takes a beating and usually holds really well.  P17's are cheap enough for most to just buy another but if you can fix it, one more step down the road.
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2018, 11:06:59 AM »
Mark, I decided to follow your excellent advice. See pictures. Put everything back together and it is shooting fine.

Had to add a new breather hole.

Put it back with it mate in the attache case.
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2018, 11:44:14 AM »
Nice work, glad you got it fixed.  Keep posting on how it holds.
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2018, 02:04:33 PM »
I am glad you got it fixed.

I noticed that both air holes are on top. Is that the way it came from the factory? Mine is underneath making it almost impossible to oil unless I disconnect the piston, and swing it up to gain access.

I like my P17 so much, I think I will buy another while they are inexpensive just incase the new tariffs on China affect the price going forward.
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2018, 02:21:25 PM »
+1.  I bought a handful of them when I first shot one and realized how easy to improve and fundamentally accurate they are.  Still have a couple of new ones unopened and a few with various states of changes done. 
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2018, 03:21:15 PM »
+1.  I bought a handful of them when I first shot one and realized how easy to improve and fundamentally accurate they are.  Still have a couple of new ones unopened and a few with various states of changes done.

I just placed the order for another P17 a few minutes ago. Probably just put it on the shelf in case I ever need it. A complete P17 costs less than a few parts for most other airguns.
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2018, 03:25:26 PM »
Exactly right. 
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2018, 08:59:17 PM »
Good catch David. I put the air hole up so if I wanted to flush it out with oil or alcohol it would be easy. Local wallyworld has p17s for 33 bucks. Still the best value in the world of airguns.  Like you said and bandg affirmed, I've spent more on parts for other guns. And you are almost guaranteed to learn to work on airguns.
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2018, 09:47:49 PM »
Finally got a chance to chrony the repaired p17. Getting 370 to 380 fps. Before the repairs it ran in the mid 400's. Accuracy is still there and it's easier to cock.
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Re: P 17 problem
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2018, 12:16:05 AM »
Pat,

It's nice when things work out well. Congratulations.

I was showing my P17 & FAS 6004 to a couple of friends at work this morning, and one fellow picked up MY P17, held it, then picked up his phone, and purchased one off Amazon while we were talking.

Owning a P17 is a no brainer, and you are correct that you will learn a lot about airguns messing with it.
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