DAR Dynamic .177, .22, & .25 on Clearance at SG

[Wayne52]

You talked me into it. Ordered a 177. Now to order some o rings.

Here's a chrony pic I did with my .177 also with the H&N Sniper Magnums

[Rohmpm]

You talked me into it. Ordered a 177. Now to order some o rings.

Here's a chrony pic I did with my .177 also with the H&N Sniper Magnums

I don't have any .177 but you've just about got me convinced to get one.....might as well get a .22 also, lol

[Rohmpm]

So I bit. Got a 25 coming.

Billy if you haven't been reading all the threads about this gun I suggest you do because you will more than likely be wanting to know ahead of time all the quirks of these new guns.

LOL!  At a minimum get you some #117 Dura90 o-rings to have on hand, you'll need those for the regulator! 

Lol, ordered them yesterday. Figure I'll take it apart as soon as I get it. Any other suggestions, transfer diameter, trigger work?
Figure I'll  have to spin up a couple baffles.

[Wayne52]

Billy I hope ya get a good one like I did, the odd part about it is the fact that another forum member ordered the .177 early on (serial #2) and had problems with the poppet also, mine is #6 and shoots like a dream after putting the new reg&airtube o rings on it.  These guns are a super deal right now and it's more than likely to make the room for the next generation.

This dang thread anyway, it's still got me on edge to push the button on the .22, there's not much about the .22 on this forum yet but I'm sure that little sucker is a powerhouse too and I'll be that it would shoot the
 217-30-FN's great as well.

[Wolverineshooter]

You guys made me itching. I ask myself I already have a 0.22 Diana Stormrider, why do I need more entry level PCPs?

The main draw to me is the regulator and price, and seeing Wayne's adjustments made the rifles powerful (60fpe for .25 and 25fpe for .177).

My concerns are that
1. Noise - Any suggestion to moderate it? Does it come with a connector for suppressor?
2. Long range accuracy, I have not seen any report there. On the other hand Gauntlet does have reports on good long range performance.
3. Trigger quality - any concerns here? What adjustments you guys are making?
4. Regulator - is it just bleeding the air or truly regulator? If you left the rifle alone for a while will it shoot at different speed?
5. bad O-rings, but seems to be reasonably easy fix

[Wayne52]

Greg the .177 is super quiet even at 25pfe, I shot a red squirrel today and there was a fox squirrel close to me and he never paid me no mind, he only looked in the direction of the smack then went on about his business searching for food.  He never really knew I was there until I went to get the red squirrel and took off.

[Wolverineshooter]

Thanks Wayne, good to know the DAR177 is very quiet, I probably will get that one first.

[Wayne52]

Greg I'm wondering how much longer they're going to have the sale, if it's still going on in a month I'll probably get the .22, it's hard to turn down at that price but I'm thinking it'll make a good slug shooter.

[Wolverineshooter]

Wayne, you have been the pioneer here. I am hoping these guns will do wonders in long distance (say 100 yards) with slugs. I was looking into swaging but seems fairly expensive. Casting seems a bit too complicated involving melting lead for my taste. So I may end up just buy some ready made slugs.

[Wayne52]

Greg I've been casting a long time really but I started on the muzzle loaders which use pure lead also.  I still have to buy  my .177 pellets and slugs though cause there's no good molds out there for them.  Swage dies cost a fortune plus then ya gotta go out and buy an arbor and other things, it's too rich for my blood.  I'm really looking forward to when NOE finishes the .22 molds for pellets because I've got mostly .22's as it is.  I love them slugs in .22, it's a five cavity die and it's really easy to make a big pile of them in a short period of time.  To top it off I like them better than any pellet in the right gun.  I don't think it would be a problem shooting them a hundred yards I just don't have a good enough scope for shooting them distances.  I'd like to get that UTG Swat scope, it's compact, 16X, has side focus and 30mm tube for a nice wide view.

[Rohmpm]

Greg I've been casting a long time really but I started on the muzzle loaders which use pure lead also.  I still have to buy  my .177 pellets and slugs though cause there's no good molds out there for them.  Swage dies cost a fortune plus then ya gotta go out and buy an arbor and other things, it's too rich for my blood.  I'm really looking forward to when NOE finishes the .22 molds for pellets because I've got mostly .22's as it is.  I love them slugs in .22, it's a five cavity die and it's really easy to make a big pile of them in a short period of time.  To top it off I like them better than any pellet in the right gun.  I don't think it would be a problem shooting them a hundred yards I just don't have a good enough scope for shooting them distances.  I'd like to get that UTG Swat scope, it's compact, 16X, has side focus and 30mm tube for a nice wide view.

parts
Where are sourcing your lead. Will used wheelweights work. Ive got a buch of that that we cast jigheads with for fishing.

[Wayne52]

Wheel weights work for powder burners but not airguns or muzzle loaders, it needs to be pure soft lead, I use lead pipe if I can find it with my metal detector but I recently bought a split pig ingot from Rotometals of 99.9% pure lead, it's going to last me a very long time.  I weighed it when I got it at 58lbs.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Greg,  I sent pictures and dimensions to a buddy of mine who is making me an adapter for my .25 so I can add an LDC.  He sells on ebay, so once I get the prototype and let him know how it works, he'll probably have some listed on ebay for sale.  He makes an excellent product, fit and finish is outstanding at they really look like they are OEM quality parts.  I'll post some pictures once I receive it from him.

[Wolverineshooter]

Greg,  I sent pictures and dimensions to a buddy of mine who is making me an adapter for my .25 so I can add an LDC.  He sells on ebay, so once I get the prototype and let him know how it works, he'll probably have some listed on ebay for sale.  He makes an excellent product, fit and finish is outstanding at they really look like they are OEM quality parts.  I'll post some pictures once I receive it from him.

Good to hear, thanks Paul

[2K1TJ]

I've been looking for an inexpensive lightweight repeater in .25 and this just may be it.

One thing I don't like, and it seems to be becoming more common, is the short breech. I'd like to see a longer breech for a more rigid barrel attachment. Hopefully it's stable enough as-is.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

These have a pretty heavy barrel and they seem to be attached quite well.  I haven't had any issues with the barrel at all.

[Wayne52]

These have a pretty heavy barrel and they seem to be attached he'd quite well.  I haven't had any issues with the barrel at all.

I was very surprised at how heavy the barrels on these guns are myself. I've had my 25 cal apart and back together many times and the set screws holding the barrel seem to be more than enough IMO.  The locating detent's for the set screws is plenty deep and seem to be holding the barrel very securely.  I haven't had anything coming loose at all so far yet.

[2K1TJ]

Thanks for the reassurance guys.

Still thinking about it...

[Rohmpm]

My .25 will be here Wed. Already received my Viton 90 orings.

[Wolverineshooter]

My .25 will be here Wed. Already received my Viton 90 orings.

Great! Let us know how it goes.

You got the O-rings from the o-ring store?