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Re: Children and guns.
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2019, 12:45:10 PM »
Oh definitely accurate when need be! I had to use it once around the farm when the hubs was out of town.
I just don't really enjoy shooting handguns for pleasure.
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Re: Children and guns.
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2019, 08:21:38 AM »
As far as children and guns....
It's like with anything else.. if you don't teach your children someone else will.
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Re: Children and guns.
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2019, 09:04:59 AM »
There's a lot I could've learned from him had he not passed when I was 7.

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Re: Children and guns.
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2019, 11:14:05 AM »
From a very young age (1yr), I've taught my daughter & granddaughter about safely handling firearms & airguns.
I've also taught them that if they're were/are at a friend's house & a firearm/airgun is present, what to do. I feel it's very important for them to know what to do if one of their friends is waving around a pistol or rifle.
Just because my girls know gun safety, doesn't mean other kids do. How many stories have we all read where a child accidentally shoots a playmate.
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Re: Children and guns.
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2019, 01:55:30 PM »
"I feel it's very important for them to know what to do if one of their friends is waving around a pistol or rifle. "

Very important indeed for children and adults. It is something I have not considered probably because guns are not prominent here but there are plenty of them.
Would you please spell out what children or adults should do in the circumstances.  Flight - intervention or something else.
A good discussion will ensue, I hope.   
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Re: Children and guns.
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2019, 10:25:24 AM »
"I feel it's very important for them to know what to do if one of their friends is waving around a pistol or rifle. "

Very important indeed for children and adults. It is something I have not considered probably because guns are not prominent here but there are plenty of them.
Would you please spell out what children or adults should do in the circumstances.  Flight - intervention or something else.
A good discussion will ensue, I hope.
My son has very clear instructions, if he is at a friends, etc. and they bring out a gun of any type without an adult present he is to ask them to put it up and if that doesn't work IMMEDIATELY he is to leave the premises first, call an adult second.
  While he is careful with his gun, he was shot by a neighborhood friend of his who was playing with a BB gun, in the leg. It hit his shin bone so while no major damage occured ( I believe it was a crosman 760) it did serve as a very painful lesson.
    Once we got the immediate situation taken care of, he and I had a talk about what happened! It served as a very seriously lesson, which could have turned out a lot worse, Truthfully with no more damage than it caused I am glad it happended, served as " real world experience " for him why you can't trust ANYONE who is careless with a gun of any type.
     
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Re: Children and guns.
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2019, 11:26:30 AM »
"I feel it's very important for them to know what to do if one of their friends is waving around a pistol or rifle. "

Very important indeed for children and adults. It is something I have not considered probably because guns are not prominent here but there are plenty of them.
Would you please spell out what children or adults should do in the circumstances.  Flight - intervention or something else.
A good discussion will ensue, I hope.
My son has very clear instructions, if he is at a friends, etc. and they bring out a gun of any type without an adult present he is to ask them to put it up and if that doesn't work IMMEDIATELY he is to leave the premises first, call an adult second.
  While he is careful with his gun, he was shot by a neighborhood friend of his who was playing with a BB gun, in the leg. It hit his shin bone so while no major damage occured ( I believe it was a crosman 760) it did serve as a very painful lesson.
    Once we got the immediate situation taken care of, he and I had a talk about what happened! It served as a very seriously lesson, which could have turned out a lot worse, Truthfully with no more damage than it caused I am glad it happended, served as " real world experience " for him why you can't trust ANYONE who is careless with a gun of any type.
   

IMHO, I think that you should revise that. Make leaving the first thing. Having him ask them to put it up is allowing more time that an accident could happen in. Talk can come later when there is no gun present and adults are. That is what I told my kids. My son had a friend whose drunk dad pulled out a gun to show it off and my son ran from the premises, it is not just kids with guns that can be dangerous, adults can be too and he recognized the impairment of the adult was a danger because we had talked about it. 
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Re: Children and guns.
« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2019, 12:03:42 PM »
"I feel it's very important for them to know what to do if one of their friends is waving around a pistol or rifle. "

Very important indeed for children and adults. It is something I have not considered probably because guns are not prominent here but there are plenty of them.
Would you please spell out what children or adults should do in the circumstances.  Flight - intervention or something else.
A good discussion will ensue, I hope.
My son has very clear instructions, if he is at a friends, etc. and they bring out a gun of any type without an adult present he is to ask them to put it up and if that doesn't work IMMEDIATELY he is to leave the premises first, call an adult second.
  While he is careful with his gun, he was shot by a neighborhood friend of his who was playing with a BB gun, in the leg
. It hit his shin bone so while no major damage occured ( I believe it was a crosman 760) it did serve as a very painful lesson.
    Once we got the immediate situation taken care of, he and I had a talk about what happened! It served as a very seriously lesson, which could have turned out a lot worse, Truthfully with no more damage than it caused I am glad it happended, served as " real world experience " for him why you can't trust ANYONE who is careless with a gun of any type.
   

Exactly! It only takes a second to ask someone to put down a firearm, but be quick about it. If they don't comply, get out of there, tell an adult.
Your son learned a painful lesson, but it could have been a lot worse. I'm sure that event has been ingrained into his brain. Glad it turned out okay. Ouch!

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Re: Children and guns.
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2019, 01:18:40 PM »
"I feel it's very important for them to know what to do if one of their friends is waving around a pistol or rifle. "

Very important indeed for children and adults. It is something I have not considered probably because guns are not prominent here but there are plenty of them.
Would you please spell out what children or adults should do in the circumstances.  Flight - intervention or something else.
A good discussion will ensue, I hope.
My son has very clear instructions, if he is at a friends, etc. and they bring out a gun of any type without an adult present he is to ask them to put it up and if that doesn't work IMMEDIATELY he is to leave the premises first, call an adult second.
  While he is careful with his gun, he was shot by a neighborhood friend of his who was playing with a BB gun, in the leg
. It hit his shin bone so while no major damage occured ( I believe it was a crosman 760) it did serve as a very painful lesson.
    Once we got the immediate situation taken care of, he and I had a talk about what happened! It served as a very seriously lesson, which could have turned out a lot worse, Truthfully with no more damage than it caused I am glad it happended, served as " real world experience " for him why you can't trust ANYONE who is careless with a gun of any type.
   

Exactly! It only takes a second to ask someone to put down a firearm, but be quick about it. If they don't comply, get out of there, tell an adult.
Your son learned a painful lesson, but it could have been a lot worse. I'm sure that event has been ingrained into his brain. Glad it turned out okay. Ouch!

Sometimes reactions to a question can be just enough distraction to cause someone with no training to make an error while they are responding. That is why some states don't allow young adults driving with a learners permit to have passengers in the vehicle with them.
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« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2019, 01:31:53 PM »
I didn't tell him to leave first because plain and simple most of the boys I know his age aren't going to just take off running when they see a gun. Depending on where he is he is allowed to have one by himself. In my family once they are old enogh too squrril hunt by themselves and have demonstrated proper arms handling safety enough around us adults they are allowed to small game hunt with rifles on our farm.
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« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2019, 01:56:34 PM »
I didn't tell him to leave first because plain and simple most of the boys I know his age aren't going to just take off running when they see a gun. Depending on where he is he is allowed to have one by himself. In my family once they are old enogh too squrril hunt by themselves and have demonstrated proper arms handling safety enough around us adults they are allowed to small game hunt with rifles on our farm.

I agree, it does depend on how sure they can be that the friend is going to handle it safely and keep the muzzle in a safe direction. If they see anything unsafe take off, instruction, questions, and corrections can be handled later at a safe time.
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« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2019, 03:12:45 PM »
I didn't tell him to leave first because plain and simple most of the boys I know his age aren't going to just take off running when they see a gun. Depending on where he is he is allowed to have one by himself. In my family once they are old enogh too squrril hunt by themselves and have demonstrated proper arms handling safety enough around us adults they are allowed to small game hunt with rifles on our farm.

I agree, it does depend on how sure they can be that the friend is going to handle it safely and keep the muzzle in a safe direction. If they see anything unsafe take off, instruction, questions, and corrections can be handled later at a safe time.
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Re: Children and guns.
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2019, 03:25:18 PM »

On my last trip to the range, there was a family right next to me that just moved to Nashville from IL.  The father was teaching the daughter and son to shoot an AR-15 at 100 yard silhouettes.  The kids were around 13 to 15 years of age, guessing.  The mother was just observing.  Very nice family, and the dad was complaining about IL laws, but I wasn't listening much to that with my focused shooting.


I did like seeing this family doing a family thing together and teaching their kids about guns, shooting and safety.
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