What is this old thing?



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What is this old thing?
« on: May 15, 2018, 11:26:20 PM »
Hey folks!

This is my first post here and I thought I’d start with a “what is this?” question. Many years ago I bought an old car that came with a few airguns in the trunk - this is one of them. I don’t see a maker’s name anywhere on it.

Might any of you know what it is, and about when it was made?

Thanks!
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2018, 11:33:34 PM »
Looks like an Apache Fireball- Texan. They were made for only 2 Years, 1948-49.

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2017/02/apache-fire-ball-texan-part-1/
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2018, 11:56:50 PM »
Looks like an Apache Fireball- Texan. They were made for only 2 Years, 1948-49.

Wow - thanks!
I just looked up Apache Fireball and it seems that these with plastic stocks were only made in ‘47. After that stocks were walnut. Interesting; I had no idea it was that old; was thinking late ‘50s or ‘60s. This one isn’t holding air and it’s going to need some “restoring”. Are there folks around who may want to repair and restore something like this?

There were several others in that old car trunk - mostly a bit rusty/crusty looking, but I thought they were cool so held onto ‘em for about 20 years now. There’s an all brass Benjamin pump, a Sheridan Blue Streak pump, some Japanese (kingfisher?) CO2, a Crossman with a push in to cock barrel, and a couple others I don’t remember. Time to unload the ones that don’t work, I think.
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2018, 02:24:10 AM »
I've worked on many rifles from Sheridan, Benjamins, Crosmans, Challenge, and so on, but not a Apache. Where about are you in Cali? As you can see I'm in Alameda in the Bay Area. I'd be interested in working on whatever you got.
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 07:27:32 AM »
Nice find.... I, for one, would like to see pictures of the other guns as well.
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2018, 12:41:17 PM »
Nice find.... I, for one, would like to see pictures of the other guns as well.

Thanks, guys. I’ll post pics of the others soon. Need to dig ‘em all out from my crawl space.
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 08:57:58 PM »
That's really a neat old gun for sure, I'd also like seeing the other ones as well ;D
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2018, 11:35:08 PM »
I concur. I too would love to see those vintage air rifles of yours! Here's my vintage Crosman's so far. But nothing like yours...

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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2018, 11:55:07 PM »
There were several others in that old car trunk - mostly a bit rusty/crusty looking, but I thought they were cool so held onto ‘em for about 20 years now. There’s an all brass Benjamin pump, a Sheridan Blue Streak pump, some Japanese (kingfisher?) CO2, a Crossman with a push in to cock barrel, and a couple others I don’t remember. Time to unload the ones that don’t work, I think.

Not familiar with the Japanese make, but the others you listed are classics and would not be too hard to revive. Plenty of people here that can help.

Is the slide barrel Crosman a V-350? an M-1? Just curious.

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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 03:12:42 AM »
if your Apachi needs a part just holler
when i rebuilt my walnut Apachi i had a box of parts left over from building 1 good one from 2 guns
here is a break down
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 02:08:12 PM »
Just dug ‘em out of the crawlspace for some pictures. They looked like this when I got them years ago. All had been wrapped up in blankets and shoved into an old car trunk (that leaked).
Anything you-all can tell me about them would be welcome. Some are in fair sahape and work, some are obviously crusty and not working. I’ll probably keep a couple and find new homes for others. ^_^


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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2018, 02:13:44 PM »
More pics -

King Fisher, a couple Crossman, a couple Sherridan, a Benjamin and a couple Slavia. Several calibers -

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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2018, 03:28:13 PM »
Wow that's a heck of a collection you've got there !!!
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2018, 03:34:10 PM »
Wow that's a heck of a collection you've got there !!!

Thanks. I wish they were all in working shape, but they’re still cool to look at. Not sure yet which ones I’ll keep. There was actually another Sherridan Blue Streak pump in that lot that I didn’t picture with them. It’s in OK cosmetic shape and works; been using it on occasion over the past 20 years.
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2018, 04:23:30 PM »
you hit the MOTHERLODE!

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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2018, 02:52:38 AM »
That's quite a find in that trunk! who ever had them sure loved airgunning..

I believe that's a first variant Crosman 147 pumper, not many pop up for sale, the Crosman 180 is also first variant, nice popular co2 rifle, both of these are easy to re-seal and bring back to life...
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2018, 08:08:38 AM »
WOW! An instant air gun collection. That old Silver Streak look " SAD !"  Has it been cleaned up ?
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2018, 08:58:06 AM »
 Glad I took my Beeman x2 out of the trunk and actually shot it 6 years ago, otherwise some lucky person at the junk yard would have a sweet shooter now LOL. Nice find !!!
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2018, 02:01:44 PM »
Thanks, guys. Most of them are in “as found” shape, but probably even dustier. I did wipe down a couple and tried to make ‘em shoot 20 years ago. Since then, just had ‘em stored under the house. The old guy who’d sold me that car, btw, knew the airguns were in the back - didn’t care. Fewer people were interested in old airguns 20 years ago. Funny thing - I’d sold that car about 5 years ago and since then, the dang things (that car) about doubled in value. Oh well..
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Re: What is this old thing?
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2018, 05:12:57 PM »
Thanks, guys. Most of them are in “as found” shape, but probably even dustier. I did wipe down a couple and tried to make ‘em shoot 20 years ago. Since then, just had ‘em stored under the house. The old guy who’d sold me that car, btw, knew the airguns were in the back - didn’t care. Fewer people were interested in old airguns 20 years ago. Funny thing - I’d sold that car about 5 years ago and since then, the dang things (that car) about doubled in value. Oh well..
Those old guns probably have too.
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