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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2018, 12:11:58 PM »
Is it just me, or does it seem strange that there was a video taken at a gun range and they did not show a single group being shot? If they don't have a scope camera setup, they could still show a 25 or 30 yard group after retrieving the target. When a video FROM THE RANGE won't show this, you know it's all hype.

 Those of us who own springers over 19 ft/lbs know it's not easy to be accurate without some sort of floating recoil voodoo.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2018, 04:54:58 PM »
Still waiting on the first review.  Seems Sig is as bad as Crosman.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2018, 09:41:41 PM »
I shot one at the texas air gun show.

First off, I am NOT a springer guy.
Yes i know how to shoot them, but i haven't owned one in over 15 years.
(Until about 2 weeks when ago a early vintage webley tempest found its way here.)

I was very impressed,
This one is well made, and accurate, if they can keep the penny pinchers out of the project, and the lawyers, it's going to be a great gun.

Now wether the american market will buy it at the price point?
That's something yet to be seen.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2018, 01:37:28 PM »
I don't think $375~400 price point is impossible, if the accuracy is is the size of a dime @20 yds.  I'm basing that on how many $400 HW97's from Europe seem to pop up in US threads. They will only be a slow trickle at $400 and only until $250 compressors become mainstream. At $275 it would be the hottest thing since the Disco.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2018, 02:41:57 PM »
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This one is well made, and accurate, if they can keep the penny pinchers out of the project, and the lawyers, it's going to be a great gun.

No doubt the demise of a fair share of air rifles making it to market both springers and PCPs.
But when you have a GP mindset that it's ok to sue for dropping hot coffee on your lap we get what we deserve.
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Re: New US made break barre
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2018, 12:00:48 PM »
I知 totally vintage buyer now but this is the one modern airgun I might buy.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2018, 07:29:20 AM »
I think Pyramyd first had delivery date 10-5, now been moved back about 6 weeks.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2018, 11:37:37 AM »
There was a review of the rifle in Airgun World pretty impressive.  Low cocking effort 20 FPE.  I guess in thinking about it it痴 really too powerful for my backyard shooting?  Once nice thing about pumpers you can adjust the power for the situation.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2018, 02:51:32 PM »
20 fpe is fine in the backyard with a good backstop.  A couple sheets of 5/8 or 3/4 inch ply will easily catch the strays if you shoot spinners and targets on the ground.  If you post up paper and you can shoot you may eventually shoot through in one spot, so post the paper targets in front of some sort of trap.

I used to shoot a 30+ fpe springer  (walther tslon mag) in my back yard with this set up in .25 cal., and a couple 25 fpe springers (ruger air magnum and benjamin xl 1500) in .177.   Plus probably a dozen other guns from 5-15 fpe.  I never had a pellet shoot through the second board.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2018, 04:39:53 PM »
20 fpe is fine in the backyard with a good backstop.  A couple sheets of 5/8 or 3/4 inch ply will easily catch the strays if you shoot spinners and targets on the ground.  If you post up paper and you can shoot you may eventually shoot through in one spot, so post the paper targets in front of some sort of trap.

I used to shoot a 30+ fpe springer  (walther tslon mag) in my back yard with this set up in .25 cal., and a couple 25 fpe springers (ruger air magnum and benjamin xl 1500) in .177.   Plus probably a dozen other guns from 5-15 fpe.  I never had a pellet shoot through the second board.

Yes it can be done but with more effort and a much louder smack of the target.  Even that smack can be absorbed I知 sure.  It just maintaining low power in the backyard simplifies things.  Wait for some real life reviews of the rifle. 
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2018, 01:21:53 PM »
20 fpe is fine in the backyard with a good backstop.  A couple sheets of 5/8 or 3/4 inch ply will easily catch the strays if you shoot spinners and targets on the ground.  If you post up paper and you can shoot you may eventually shoot through in one spot, so post the paper targets in front of some sort of trap.

I used to shoot a 30+ fpe springer  (walther tslon mag) in my back yard with this set up in .25 cal., and a couple 25 fpe springers (ruger air magnum and benjamin xl 1500) in .177.   Plus probably a dozen other guns from 5-15 fpe.  I never had a pellet shoot through the second board.

Yes it can be done but with more effort and a much louder smack of the target.  Even that smack can be absorbed I知 sure.  It just maintaining low power in the backyard simplifies things.  Wait for some real life reviews of the rifle. 

I am glad you brought up the "smack factor".  I forgot about my trap.  I used to have a piece of thick plywood with a small frame of 2x4's nailed to it, stuffed with duct seal.  Now THAT can stop a projectile.  Best of all, no sound of the impact.  Vs whacking the plywood, those 25's are much louder than the report of a springer.  Build a duct seal trap in the front of your backstop to hang paper targets, and multiple hits in the same spot will just reinforce it even better against penetration.

I, too, would hold off in some good reviews of the rifle.  And I agree it is best to keep the power down in the yard.  Even if you don't live in town, smart to keep the power minimal around the house.  Would love a Gamo shotgun just for that reason.  Don't care if it's only good for 5 yards to be lethal.  Might have to pass on a lot more shots in the woods, but it would be the perfect bunny basher around the house.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2018, 07:05:31 PM »
20 fpe is fine in the backyard with a good backstop.  A couple sheets of 5/8 or 3/4 inch ply will easily catch the strays if you shoot spinners and targets on the ground.  If you post up paper and you can shoot you may eventually shoot through in one spot, so post the paper targets in front of some sort of trap.

I used to shoot a 30+ fpe springer  (walther tslon mag) in my back yard with this set up in .25 cal., and a couple 25 fpe springers (ruger air magnum and benjamin xl 1500) in .177.   Plus probably a dozen other guns from 5-15 fpe.  I never had a pellet shoot through the second board.

Yes it can be done but with more effort and a much louder smack of the target.  Even that smack can be absorbed I知 sure.  It just maintaining low power in the backyard simplifies things.  Wait for some real life reviews of the rifle. 

I am glad you brought up the "smack factor".  I forgot about my trap.  I used to have a piece of thick plywood with a small frame of 2x4's nailed to it, stuffed with duct seal.  Now THAT can stop a projectile.  Best of all, no sound of the impact.  Vs whacking the plywood, those 25's are much louder than the report of a springer.  Build a duct seal trap in the front of your backstop to hang paper targets, and multiple hits in the same spot will just reinforce it even better against penetration.

I, too, would hold off in some good reviews of the rifle.  And I agree it is best to keep the power down in the yard.  Even if you don't live in town, smart to keep the power minimal around the house.  Would love a Gamo shotgun just for that reason.  Don't care if it's only good for 5 yards to be lethal.  Might have to pass on a lot more shots in the woods, but it would be the perfect bunny basher around the house.

I actually made a duct seal backstop which you are right limits sound but you have to hit it!  The metal targets are a bit more fun.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2018, 01:51:00 AM »
I have watched the Airgun Depot review now several times. The grouping seems pretty tight. I have the Steel Eagle and I still cant get it to shoot decent enough. Im still new at this, but do not like this SE. I would like to take a shot at one of these Sigs. But the price is too much for me and others.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2018, 09:05:06 AM »
I have watched the Airgun Depot review now several times. The grouping seems pretty tight. I have the Steel Eagle and I still cant get it to shoot decent enough. Im still new at this, but do not like this SE. I would like to take a shot at one of these Sigs. But the price is too much for me and others.

I know the price is high but to me it probably indicates a quality rifle.  I知 waiting for some independent owners to make a UTube. 
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2018, 09:40:31 AM »
Looks good to me!  But, still a pre production model.  Wish it had open sights.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2018, 10:07:30 AM »
I've got some bullseye bucks, some gift cards, and a few dollars, I am planning on getting one of the synthetic models when they become available.

I won't be making any youtube videos or anything, but I will offer a post of my initial thoughts, and a couple month followup.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2018, 03:41:38 PM »
I hope this rifle does very well, I would love to see more made in USA Airguns. Good luck and good job SIG Sauer.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2018, 05:08:37 PM »
Yes agree on that, so far what I heard, mostly from BB-Pelletier and an video review from Airgun Depot, it looks like it will be a really accurate and good gun. But I prefer to have seen some private reviews with real world background on it.
But still a good job from SIG Sauer to make it entirely in the USA.
We will see how it holds up, and than we can get deeper into it.
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2018, 09:46:54 PM »
IMHO, after seeing the home depot video, I am not impressed.  As nice as it may look, it really wasn't that accurate compared to the other springers that are out there.  Again, it's my opinion, but if you make it here to compete, then it's GOT to complete.  At least be as good as and I'm not sure that's what I see.  After seeing that rifle, would you really want one over an HW?  Or an Air Arms?  Heck, I think my Gamo Bone Collector Maxim shoots better and is 10x quieter...

I would be happy to challenge anybody with this SIG gun with my RWS 350.  I'll just bet it'll out shoot it. 

This has been my 1 cent.  I'm afraid my 2 cents are only worth half that now.... ;)
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Re: New US made break barrel
« Reply #59 on: October 31, 2018, 10:00:13 PM »
 They claim it is not very hold sensitive.  :-\
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