Maximus ... How much better with improved trigger?

[shultz]

Marc,

My .177 mrod shotguned out of the box....

Motorhead(scott) was nice enough to sell me a spare barrel that shoots AA 10.3's VERY well! It shoots other pellets pretty good too, it's just the AA 10.3's are THE pellet for that barrel.

[Dbez1]

The MRod trigger really makes "that" much difference!

You have to mod the stock for a new trigger guard, yes?

Mine has the Challenger trigger guard and it doesn't look like the stock was modified. 

[Marc In Iowa]

My .177 mrod shotguned out of the box....

Hmm. The Crosman barrel lottery not just limited to Disco and Maximus then ...

[shultz]

Nope....

I think the "barrel lottery" term was first used for the mrod .22 barrels... some shot great, some ok, some were so bad the term "couldn't hit the broad side of the barn from the inside" applied...

[Marc In Iowa]

... [sold] me a spare barrel that shoots AA 10.3's VERY well!

I've seen some posts about putting in the LW barrel from the Challenger.

[Marc In Iowa]

When I bought my Beeman P17 I had read posts about poor quality control and I was prepared for that. The very first one I got wouldn't fire at all and I just sent it back. The second one I got fired perfectly and has operated perfectly ever since.

[addertooth]

Fear of Lottery factor was why the 25 Marauder with the Green Mountain barrel from the factory was so popular.  That and it is easier to get a higher Foot Pounds of Energy with a larger heavier Pellet. 
Some Crossman .177/.22 barrels may come with an "iffy" shooting barrel initially, but after putting a few hundred pellets down the bore they tend to improve. 

[Tater]

I put a Baker trigger in my wife's Maximus. Huge improvement, even though I didn't polish much otherwise.

A huge improvement you could notice in your groups?

I added the trigger before we  had a chance to shoot groups so no idea of the accuracy. It makes it so much easier and nicer to shoot though so I can't see how that wouldn't help.
My Disco came with an Mrod trigger group and as others said, it's definitely great. Probably the best way to go. The Baker trigger is still way better than stock, and if you did some polishing and bend the V-shaped spring correctly... (see YouTube videos for that) you could probably get close the the Marauder.

[Marc In Iowa]

Did I win the barrel lottery ... or not?

Hard to tell, I suppose. I've attached the photo of my Crosman factory 5-shot, 10 yards group that came with my Maximus. Looks decent. Am I just shooting it poorly?

[shultz]

Your maxi came with a factory 5 shot target? mine didn't.....

I assume, each square is 1/2", is this right? if so, that's about a 3/4" group, at 10yds, I call that horrible...
If the squares are 1/4", its still not a good group for 10yds at nearly 1/2".
Other than initial scope sight in, I don't shoot at 10yds with PCP's or even CO2 for that matter. My CO2 guns do get shot at 15yds some, I would be looking for a different pellet, or figuring out why my groups were so big even at 15yds...

If it were a 25yd group, its still not good IMHO, but might be good enough if you never planed to shoot past 25-30 yds.

[Marc In Iowa]

If the squares are 1/4", its still not a good group for 10yds at nearly 1/2".

The squares are 1/4".

[shultz]

Just me...

At 10yds, I would expect the gun/pellet combo to keep however many shots I cared to fire within the black of the lozenge aka diamond, assuming I did my part of course. Anything over that would be unacceptable.

I figure as an average, groups will double in size as distance doubles... not always, just a general rule of thumb. So, at 20yds, I would expect that group to be nearly 1", at 25yds, I'd expect 1". You say you're seeing 1"-1.5" groups at 25yds, I don't think the trigger or you is the problem....

[Marc In Iowa]

... might be good enough if you never planed to shoot past 25-30 yds.

I have a Remington crow Field Target set at 25 yards with FT openings of 1.5, 1 and .5 inches. I had hoped to get better and keep dialing down the opening to the .5 setting. That'll be tough if I can't get below a 1" group.

[shultz]

... might be good enough if you never planed to shoot past 25-30 yds.

I have a Remington crow Field Target set at 25 yards with FT openings of 1.5, 1 and .5 inches. I had hoped to get better and keep dialing down the opening to the .5 setting. That'll be tough if I can't get below a 1" group.

You cut off the "IF that were a 25yd group" part and its not....

hitting a 1.5 inch, 25yd target with a gun that groups 1"-1.5" at the same distance is almost as much luck as skill...

[Marc In Iowa]

Well, I can return or exchange the rifle. I suppose I could always spin the wheel of fortune one more time.

[Dbez1]

I agree with you.  Exchange it for one that shoots and then start adding trigger etc.  There are too many on GTA with really accurate Maximus to accept a bad one.

[Mosin Marine]

It made a world of difference for me, still not quite the amount i like but good enough that i don't feel like i am pulling the trigger on a caulk gun! Made my groups much smaller.

[Dbez1]

If you're interested, there's a Maximus.22 in the classifieds with some upgrades. 
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=132440.0

[Marc In Iowa]

If you're interested, there's a Maximus.22 in the classifieds with some upgrades. 
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=132440.0

Thanks for the heads up! I want to stick with 177. Although, I did message the seller. :-)

[2L8]

My Maximus .22 (purchased 8/4/17) @ 20yds yesterday (1/2" squares) after my O-ring fix. 10yd from Crosman was smaller.