Most Compact Marauader!

[YEMX]

Your link to leeair pro is missing something, it does not work.

^^THIS

[ackuric]

Your link to leeair pro is missing something, it does not work.

That was just what was on his business card, his email should work or PM @ Vash545 here on the forums.

[ackuric]

That looks great with the air tubed wrapped and blacked!

Thanks! I thought so too! Hate to cover up the aluminum but man it's starting to really come together!

-Matt

[ackuric]

Started assembling a bit more today to test some more on sear engagement and it doesn't seem I sanded down the grip far enough for it to be 100% proper. I am not happy with the engagement so I have contacted lloyd in hopes he has a taller sear still available that I can grab. Safety is always first when it comes to our rifles and I don't want this build to go south with any mis-fires!

I am still happy I sanded the frame down to match the tubes contour so it sits flush.

-Matt

[YEMX]

I'm going to send Lee a PM, but my idea is this:

a small "stock" or chassis that has an integrated trigger guard, uses an AR15 style grip (no beavertail), and uses an Evanix Sniper stock- similar to the above stock with two rods and a butt plate.  I also have an EBR style stock as well.  Both use the same overall idea: two rods, an adjustable cheek piece and a buttplate. 

I'm going to cross my fingers and hope there's a favorable and affordable reply.  This would be an awesome addition to my Brod build.

[ackuric]

I'm going to send Lee a PM, but my idea is this:

a small "stock" or chassis that has an integrated trigger guard, uses an AR15 style grip (no beavertail), and uses an Evanix Sniper stock- similar to the above stock with two rods and a butt plate.  I also have an EBR style stock as well.  Both use the same overall idea: two rods, an adjustable cheek piece and a buttplate. 

I'm going to cross my fingers and hope there's a favorable and affordable reply.  This would be an awesome addition to my Brod build.

Let me know how that works out! It sounds expensive but I hope it's not!

[ackuric]

I may sand down the grip frame more to sit the sear in the tube better but as it stands I'll be waiting for the solution to that be it a taller sear or sanding down further.

I really wish someone would come out with a fill adapter that was like this for the marauders...any volunteers?

http://laneregulators.com/shop/tuning-parts/pressure-gauges/air-arms-quick-fill-adapter-pressure-gauge

If I could slap something like that onto my build I would do the pipe foam insulation/pool noodle grip which imo would look/feel amazing...lol

-Matt

[Geronimo]

Jim Gaska at WAR makes a part that replaces the fill nipple assembly. it works like a "T" fitting. you thread it into the tube and then put a captured filled nipple on one side and a gauge on the other. I got them for my regulated marauders so I have one gauge that reads tank pressure and one that reads reg pressure. once you have two gauges on a regulated rifle, you'll always want two gauges. give him a call. hope this helps. great work on your build.

[sawtoothscream]

Looks much better I'm with the wrap.


How stiff if that stock?    Flex at all?

[ackuric]

Looks much better I'm with the wrap.


How stiff if that stock?    Flex at all?

No flex on the stock really even fully extended, unless you use a lot of force intentionally.

I plan on testing some 6061 aluminum for the rods to save weight, would take the 15" steel rods that are 10 oz to 10" aluminum rods that'll be around 3-4 oz, saving 6-7 oz's. If those don't work out well I'll have Lee shorten my 15" rods down to 10" for me which will still take weight down from 10 oz to around 7 oz. I am weighing just shy of 5 lbs without air, hoping in the end I weigh 4.5-5 lbs filled up and unscoped, plan on finding a 10-11 oz scope that is 3-9 x that will hopefully keep overall weight @ or around 6 lbs when scoped!

-Matt

[FuzzyGrub]

When I saw your pic in the aluminum air tube thread, I was wondering how you did the sear alignment and engagement on the Gen II.   Thx for providing that.  How far are the screw holes away from the original locations? 

With the stock extended, where is the balance point on the gun?   

I have used shotgun foregrips on Prods.  They could work on a mrod, but would need to be sanded to get to the larger OD of the mrod tube.  It can mount to the rear using the prod tab that goes on the front grip frame screw.  The front mount would need to be fabricated. 

I'm not sure if those rods would clear a shotgun grip though.  I have seen what looks like a tight fitting black pvc with holes drilled in it, to give it that heat shield like look. 



Just a couple of thoughts. 

NOTE: Picture is from Citrus Airguns

[ackuric]

When I saw your pic in the aluminum air tube thread, I was wondering how you did the sear alignment and engagement on the Gen II.   Thx for providing that.  How far are the screw holes away from the original locations? 

With the stock extended, where is the balance point on the gun?   

I have used shotgun foregrips on Prods.  They could work on a mrod, but would need to be sanded to get to the larger OD of the mrod tube.  It can mount to the rear using the prod tab that goes on the front grip frame screw.  The front mount would need to be fabricated. 

I'm not sure if those rods would clear a shotgun grip though.  I have seen what looks like a tight fitting black pvc with holes drilled in it, to give it that heat shield like look. 



Just a couple of thoughts. 

NOTE: Picture is from Citrus Airguns

The new trigger screw hole on the rear that goes into the end cap is around .2" difference from original on gen ll. IDK about the forward holes as I didn't have LEE tap those for the gen ll trigger as I have no intention on using it, but if I were I'd tap them myself. Sear engagement isn't 100% right yet, I'll try to sand the frame down tad more to achieve good engagement, if not I'll buy the taller sear from lloyd.

One benefit from going to the prod trigger is that it moves the trigger forward about 2-3" which slightly changes the balance of the rifle into your favor.

With the stock extended the balance point / center of balance is inches in front of the trigger if you were to try to balance the gun in your hand, basically right where I intend on a 6-8" hand guard is exactly where the balancing point is.

I could off hand shoot this rifle one handed if I wanted, albeit not VERY accurately but nonetheless, that is how much different the balance/weight is.

The pvc pipe might by a good idea, mine would sit much lower as I'd want to cover up the stock pressure gauge + plumbing.

-Matt

[ackuric]

Received my 10" aluminum 6061 rods today to replace Lee's SS rods which are AMAZING quality but on the heavy side. The SS rods weigh combined 10-11 oz's, where as these aluminum rods weigh combined 2.5 oz's. A HUGE 1/2 lb weight savings, making it even easier to achieve my goals of a sub 5 lb marauder!

Now I have to spend some time prepping and drilling/tapping the new rods to Lee's specs so it all works! Will update once that is done.

New stock will weigh a total of 8.5 oz down from 1 lb 1 oz.

-Matt

[ackuric]

Got the rods partially done for the stock. Test fitted and weighed in at 4.5 lbs fully assembled un-scoped without air. The only thing missing is a hand guard which won't weigh more than a few oz's, so really my sub 5 lb goal is being met with ease! I love the feel of this rifle in my hands now!

I am going to contact lloyd now about the taller sear, not sure if I should just continue sanding down the grip since I already started, I don't want the taller sear to cause issues since my frames sanded down. Will see what lloyd suggests!

-Matt

[ackuric]

Bit the bullet and just ordered a taller sear from Llyod. citrusairguns sells the prod frame ready for the marauder with a taller sear already installed for around 88$+16 shipping (104$ total), but I just bought the frame + grips from crossman for around 40$ shipped + lloyds taller sear for 22$, definitely a cheaper alternative. My grip frame does sit nice and flush with the tube so my efforts didn't go entirely unwarranted by sanding it down.

-Matt

[screwwork]

Nice job Matt! That sweet be a sweet rifle that is lite as Prod.
I have a Lloyd sear with Prod trigger assembly too do just for what you did with a standard Mrod tube. I just didn't find a AR stock adaptor for it.

[ackuric]

Nice job Matt! That sweet be a sweet rifle that is lite as Prod.
I have a Lloyd sear with Prod trigger assembly too do just for what you did with a standard Mrod tube. I just didn't find a AR stock adaptor for it.

Few places have those ar stock's available. I would contact Lee/Vash545 though he has some awesome ideas/designs for collapsible stocks! I wanted to be different and his design caught me eye so I figured why not!

-Matt

[ackuric]

Taller sear should be in today. Still haven't found a solution to a hand guard that covers the pressure gauge but have some ideas!

Pics with the shortened aluminum 6061 rods and cheek riser in proper position. So far so good! The current lengths in this config are 34.5" collapsed and 40.5" extended.

[ackuric]

Got the Taller sear in from Lloyd today. Installed and everything works wonderfully. Can't thank Lloyd enough for having a very nice solution for those of us who choose to tinker! Great quality sear!

All I need to do is solve my hand guard issue. After this last attention to detail, I will be able to test the rifle in its new form! Very excited. If it weren't for my plenum extension that feeds off the pressure gauge this job would be much easier! I may just have to live without the extension for awhile if I want to really test this thing.

-Matt

[Xraycer]

Looks great, Matt!

For about $130, a Hawke Vantage 4-12X40 scope would go very well with your set up.