Author Topic: Need help identifying old .30 cal air rifle. (Read 5984 times))

Gippeto · « **Reply #20 on:** March 29, 2017, 05:03:20 PM »

My searches are coming up empty as well, but Philippine air rifles are something I have researched quite a bit in the past...possible.

I don't really believe it's a military prototype, that's just the story that was told and passed down to the fellow who currently owns the rifle. Doubt they were meaning US military as well seeing as it was found in the "middle of nowhere Alberta". Uk, Europe or Canada would be far more likely if this were actually the case.

I have great difficulty believing any military would have a use for an over complicated, low powered (co2), .30 cal "bb gun" when simple, economical powder burning options abound.

Al

Radrob · « **Reply #21 on:** March 29, 2017, 06:27:02 PM »

I looked and came up empty too but did find an interesting article about the British promoting air guns to increase accuracy and experience after losing a war. https://bsamuseum.wordpress.com/page-6/

Gippeto · « **Reply #22 on:** March 29, 2017, 09:00:23 PM »

Cool.

Appreciate you curious fellows digging around on this too...thank you.

Not as much shop time as I was hoping for, but did get the stock mount screw made. Then couldn't resist a little test fire.

Old girl does have a little bit of snort. 1000psi N2 fills, fired some shots at the old fire pit..steel @ ~30 yrds. These are the ones I recovered. Obvious declining shot string, but to be expected from a co2 rifle running on nitrogen.

Edit: I suppose that until I actually chrony it, I'll say "seems like" a declining shot string.

Needs a bit more work...and maybe some play too. :lol:

Al

TF89 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2017, 12:47:21 AM »

Loving it, keep it coming.

TF89 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2017, 01:03:23 AM »

I remembered this article showing how to tell fps by splatter and your pellets are perfect for this. https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/09/splatology/

the fuse · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:42:32 PM »

May sound crazy. Is there any chance this is a Quackenbush prototype?

dv8eod · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2017, 09:05:01 PM »

Quote from: the fuse on March 30, 2017, 07:42:32 PM

May sound crazy. Is there any chance this is a Quackenbush prototype?

I wouldn't believe so based on the front sight. He keeps his designs pretty straight forward, and this one seems stylized.

avator · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2017, 09:15:51 PM »

What ever it is it's way up there on the cool factor scale.

the fuse · « **Reply #28 on:** March 31, 2017, 07:11:48 PM »

Interesting reading TF89. Splatology.

Of course that was with round balls rather than pellets but it looks like you may be getting around 500 fps on highest power. That front sight does look very intricate. Very strange that there are no ID marks at all. Wonder what the magazine looked like?

the fuse · « **Reply #29 on:** March 31, 2017, 07:18:50 PM »

BTW as to finding it in "middle of nowhere Alberta", I'm a big tag sale and flea market troller. I look for anything interesting. Some of the weird stuff I've found, around the northeast US, is astounding. No idea how it made it's way here from around the world, yet here it was.

kj · « **Reply #30 on:** April 02, 2017, 02:51:05 AM »

love a good mystery. after being here in the philippines a year now and seeing all sorts of airguns and such, i'd tend to not think it came from here for several reasons. almost every airgun made here is in .22. a few .177 . brass was used extensively as it's easy to work with. another reason is the mechanisms seem a bit more complicated than what would have been made here years ago. even the front site seems more complicated than would be on an older gun here. almost all the older guns are hammer , rolling block types. even saw one with an insert that blocked the hammer from hitting the valve stem, but instead it would hit a firing pin and fire .22 rimfire. the local .22 pellets won't fit regular airguns. too big diameter.

the newer guns here are being made with aluminum and steel, still mostly in .22. occasionaly a .25 or .177 if someone can scrounge up a barrel. some import guns here now.

not too definitely say not from here, but it doesn't seem to fit what i've seen here. there is a local gun maker i shoot with, next time he stops by i'll show him the pics and see what he thinks. there is another member here that is a filipino, i'll have him
check out the pics and see if he has any insight to this mystery.

peace
kj

Gippeto · « **Reply #31 on:** April 02, 2017, 04:02:47 PM »

Any input is good input, thanks.

Finished the shot tray and ran it over the chrony this morning with the 46.3gr JSB's on a 1000psi N2 fill. Will put pics of the shot tray on the photobucket link in a bit.

775, 714,627, 502, 323...so...confirmed declining shot string. Need to make a fitting for a co2 fire extinguisher and then I'll see what it does on co2.

Al

dv8eod · « **Reply #32 on:** April 02, 2017, 04:28:37 PM »

I just thought of another place that might know. Could try contacting the Beeman Museum. Supposedly they've seen everything. If it's still up and running.

the fuse · « **Reply #33 on:** April 02, 2017, 09:34:14 PM »

Cant you hook a paintball gun tank to it?

plinker81366 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:31:36 AM »

Quote from: kj on April 02, 2017, 02:51:05 AM

love a good mystery. after being here in the philippines a year now and seeing all sorts of airguns and such, i'd tend to not think it came from here for several reasons. almost every airgun made here is in .22. a few .177 . brass was used extensively as it's easy to work with. another reason is the mechanisms seem a bit more complicated than what would have been made here years ago. even the front site seems more complicated than would be on an older gun here. almost all the older guns are hammer , rolling block types. even saw one with an insert that blocked the hammer from hitting the valve stem, but instead it would hit a firing pin and fire .22 rimfire. the local .22 pellets won't fit regular airguns. too big diameter.

the newer guns here are being made with aluminum and steel, still mostly in .22. occasionaly a .25 or .177 if someone can scrounge up a barrel. some import guns here now.

not too definitely say not from here, but it doesn't seem to fit what i've seen here. there is a local gun maker i shoot with, next time he stops by i'll show him the pics and see what he thinks. there is another member here that is a filipino, i'll have him
check out the pics and see if he has any insight to this mystery.

peace
kj

kevin my knowledge with philippine made big bore airguns are, first its usually a smooth bore, second its dual caliber the large caliber barrel,acts as a sleeve for the rifled barrel usually in 22 cal,
most i have seen have tube cartridges which can be loaded with buck shot or duck shot, lead balls
but i could be wrong also..there are lots of unknown makers also..lol

Gippeto · « **Reply #35 on:** April 03, 2017, 01:16:50 AM »

Quote from: the fuse on April 02, 2017, 09:34:14 PM

Cant you hook a paintball gun tank to it?

Now that I have a full paintball tank...yep.

Al

dv8eod · « **Reply #36 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:11:33 PM »

Could you post a pic with it back together, please? Glad it's up and running....

Gippeto · « **Reply #37 on:** April 03, 2017, 05:33:54 PM »

the fuse · « **Reply #38 on:** April 03, 2017, 06:54:13 PM »

What's your thinking on the sights? Did I see holes drilled for side mounted rear sight of some kind? Peep?

Horatio · « **Reply #39 on:** April 03, 2017, 09:18:01 PM »

Interesting looking rifle. I like the low comb.

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Need help identifying old .30 cal air rifle.

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