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Altaros booster compressor from A to Z...**UPDATED**
« on: March 14, 2017, 07:20:54 PM »
I realize that there are several reviews and threads on the Altaros already but I'm endeavoring to put as much information as I can in one thread. Guess we see how it goes.

First let me say that the guys at Altaros center on customer service. Very quick to respond to my email questions and super helpful throughout the entire process.

I placed the order on 3/1/17. The to my door price was $639.00 including shipping. The shipping originating with CZ post and then transferring to USPS once it arrived in the US. It shipped from CZ the following day on 3/2/17 and arrived at my house on 3/13/17. I knew that that I wouldn't be there at the time of the delivery so I picked it up the following day at the PO.

I have a 2 stage, 240v, 5 hp. 60 gallon compressor in a room separate from my shop already so it didn't take much research for me to decide on the Altaros. The Altaros uses the external compressor to both power the HPA compressor and cool it. The Altaros will run fine on a smaller compressor that what I have but the bigger compressor allows the Altaros will fill whatever gun or cylinder faster.



Pardon the incomplete repaint on the compressor room. It got to be winter before I got done.  ::)



Unpacking: The package made it without any damage. It shipped in a box wrapped with clear plastic shrink wrap.



The booster compressor was surrounded with foam inside the box.





The Altaros unit is housed inside a plastic tool box and it arrived unscathed from it's long trip to Arkansas.



An extra set of O rings is included.



The unit is shipped completely assembled other than a couple of fittings that are provided but have to be installed by the end user. The first is the fitting for the air intake. The provided fitting has an O ring and is screwed hand tight onto this port on the back of the unit.





This fitting mates to a regular quick disconnect commonly used for compressed air.



The next thing that needs to be installed is the thumb screw for the bleeder valve. A simple matter of screwing it onto the fitting. This is also hand tight.



The manufacturer also ships a double ended male Foster fitting with the unit.



Inside the box we see the last of the things that needs to be installed. The 12v power supply. This provides power for the switches in the unit. It is in this white box inside the unit, packed with more foam to protect it.



There is an access hole in the back of the unit with a grommet where the power cord is to fed through and then plugged into the booster.



Altaros provides a water/oil filter with the unit that is already plumbed and attached to the inside of the lid. Really nice to have this right at the booster.



It is an interesting design. There is manual filtration along with a water seperator at the top.



An additional desiccant filter downstream form the first filter is also included and already plumbed.



The beads are bright orange when they are dry and turn to dark green if they need to be changed or dried in the oven.



The end cap farthest away from the first filter is the one that Altaros says should be removed. I covered the jaws of a set of Cobra adjustable pliers with masking tape to protect the cap.



There are 2 filtered exhaust ports on the unit where air is exhausted from the cooling cycle.



Altaros suggests that you can cut pieces of the packing foam to quiet the exhaust form these ports which works very well.



And the foam installed on the port on the opposite end of the booster.



And here is how the booster looks ready for use. We'll get it going in the next post.


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Re: Altaros booster compressor from A to Z...
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2017, 07:42:18 PM »
I have a DeVilbiss QC3 filter drier ordered that I will use exclusively for the Altaros but I haven't received it yet so for now I will rely on my Sharpe F88 filter that I use already for shop air drying.

I have the Altaros on a Snap On under hood work stand and it will also hold the SCBA cylinder being filled. I used a short coiled hose that I bought at Harbor Freight to connect the Altaros to the F88 filter. I also mounted a gauge at that connection to be able to show exactly how much pressure is available.





I made no adjustment to how I had the shop compressor set previously. The gauge shows that it is kicking on at 95 psi and off at 125 psi.

**UPDATE** -- When I began using the booster I did not adjust the air flow screw that meters the air entering the booster. My compressor was running for 1minute and 40 seconds and off for 6 minutes. I have now adjusted the air flow screw to achieve close to the suggested 60% off and 40% on cycle for the compressor. The compressor runs for approximately 2 minutes and is off for 3 minutes now. This has greatly improved the performance. It varies slightly as the pressure increases in the cylinder but I'm pleased with the cycle now. Head temps on the Snap On compressor stayed in the 150 degree neighborhood which is fine.

Here is the air flow screw that needs to be adjusted. That is done by loosening the lock nut and turning the screw in to decrease the flow and out to increase the flow.



I began with the cylinder showing 3500 psi.



After adjusting the air flow screw, I was able to go from 3500psi to 4500psi in 40 minutes. It's really nice to actually see these gauges on 4500psi as the paint ball shop could never get them over 4100psi which was more like 3800psi once they cooled off. The Altaros fill rate doesn't raise the temp of the cylinders so there is no loss once the filling process stops.





I am very happy with how the Altaros performed. The unit is very quiet. It also surprised me that the booster pump itself actually got cooler as the process continued. The finishing temp of the unit was 59.9 degrees. The ambient temp inside the shop was 74 degrees.



There was a very small amount of water in the F88 filter but not a drop in the filter on the Altaros and the desiccant filter media was still orange. I do plan to still run the DeVilbiss filter once it comes but not sure that it is actually necessary. I felt no moisture at all when I opened the bleeder valve so I feel like there will not be a moisture issue but I want to err on the side of caution.

I'll report more as I use it.

Edit: I made a small mod that I read about on another forum. The fill hose doesn't have any way to secure it. So to keep it from flopping around and to protect the valve I made a small slot in the upper edge of the front of the tool box that houses the booster to capture the hose. Super simple and works perfectly.







Also in my 35 years working in a service industry I have learned that it is not if you are going to have an issue but how you handle it when you do. There was one small problem with the Altaros. The 12v power supply housing was broken. It broke right at one of the attachment screws. It still works fine so no issue and I simply put a small piece of packing tape on it and continued on. I sent an email to Michal at Altaros and he immediately sent me a link to a replacement on Ebay and credited my PayPal account the amount of the replacement. That is what customer service is all about.



I cannot say enough how much the guys at Altaros have been open to and extremely helpful with all my questions throughout the process of research, ordering, shipping and use and adjustment of their product. I'm very impressed with the machine and the attention to detail that Michal and everyone at Altaros show to their customers is second to none.
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Re: Altaros booster compressor from A to Z...
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2017, 07:48:14 PM »
Assorted links, videos and etc...

The Altaros compressor main page...

http://www.altaros.cz/en/other-accessories/48-altaros-compressor-booster-unit

Performance with various compressors...

http://www.altaros.cz/en/other-accessories/48-altaros-compressor-booster-unit#demoTab5

Video showing how the Altaros works...



My home video of the compressor in action. I'm still surprised at how quiet it is.



**UPATE** Once I had the air screw adjusted properly I made another video to show the difference in how fast the booster operates now compared to the original video.



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Re: Altaros booster compressor from A to Z...
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2017, 07:58:07 PM »
Looks good. Thanks for the unboxing. You've got me really considering one. I'm waiting on a member to get an air Venturi to sell me his shoebox. Did you have a shoebox before? And wondering if a 5hp 30gallon compressor is enough for the altaros?
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Re: Altaros booster compressor from A to Z...
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2017, 08:22:26 PM »
Looks good. Thanks for the unboxing. You've got me really considering one. I'm waiting on a member to get an air Venturi to sell me his shoebox. Did you have a shoebox before? And wondering if a 5hp 30gallon compressor is enough for the altaros?

I did not have a compressor prior to today. I was getting my cylinders filled at a paint ball store. I considered a Shoebox but I felt personally that the Altaros was a better design and more cost effective.

You should be fine with a 5 hp 30 gallon compressor.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2017, 08:25:51 PM »
Cost and how long did it take to arrive? Sorry for all the questions.
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Re: Altaros booster compressor from A to Z...
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2017, 08:27:36 PM »
Cost and how long did it take to arrive? Sorry for all the questions.

$639.00 all in to my door. Took 11 days to arrive.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2017, 08:56:26 PM »
5 - 10 - 15 - 20.....    Oh sorry, I was counting up my nickels.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2017, 08:59:38 PM »
5 - 10 - 15 - 20.....    Oh sorry, I was counting up my nickels.

Worth every penny...er...nickel.  ;D
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2017, 09:05:49 PM »
Lemme ask a question... would it be silly to leave the tank attached like a reservoir and fill the guns. Set the compressor to auto fill the tank when it reaches a preset low level? Or, is that how you guys do it?
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2017, 09:17:59 PM »
Lemme ask a question... would it be silly to leave the tank attached like a reservoir and fill the guns. Set the compressor to auto fill the tank when it reaches a preset low level? Or, is that how you guys do it?

The Altaros doesn't work that way. It has an asjustable high side cutoff only.

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Gotcha... thanks
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2017, 09:25:34 PM »
Nice post Terry thanks!!

Do you have access to a lesser compressor than the Snap on.   I'm trying to find a small one that can fill.  I just don't want a 200 pound compressor if I don't have to.

Like  4 gallon mikata or somethign like that.   

Looks like on the high end its around 1 hour 40 minutes for a top off.

On the low end I'm wondering what people are getting.

I've seen a ingersol Rand 100 percent duty 4 gallon oil compressor for 299.00 I like the weight and footprint.   I think someone has one on the forum.



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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2017, 09:30:39 PM »
Nice post Terry thanks!!

Do you have access to a lesser compressor than the Snap on.   I'm trying to find a small one that can fill.  I just don't want a 200 pound compressor if I don't have to.

Like  4 gallon mikata or somethign like that.   

Looks like on the high end its around 1 hour 40 minutes for a top off.

On the low end I'm wondering what people are getting.

I've seen a ingersol Rand 100 percent duty 4 gallon oil compressor for 299.00 I like the weight and footprint.   I think someone has one on the forum.

Sorry I don't have another other than my tiny Harbor Freight pancake.
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Re: Altaros booster compressor from A to Z...
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2017, 09:53:20 PM »
Nice post Terry thanks!!

Do you have access to a lesser compressor than the Snap on.   I'm trying to find a small one that can fill.  I just don't want a 200 pound compressor if I don't have to.

Like  4 gallon mikata or somethign like that.   

Looks like on the high end its around 1 hour 40 minutes for a top off.

On the low end I'm wondering what people are getting.

I've seen a ingersol Rand 100 percent duty 4 gallon oil compressor for 299.00 I like the weight and footprint.   I think someone has one on the forum.

Sorry I don't have another other than my tiny Harbor Freight pancake.

Well that pancake could yield useful information.   I would be curious how fast the pancake would fill it.   

Did you add that pre filter just as a precaution.  Altaros told me you don't need an additional filter as its built in.
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2017, 10:59:28 PM »
Terry,

Really nice thread!   ;D

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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2017, 11:06:07 PM »
Nice post Terry thanks!!

Do you have access to a lesser compressor than the Snap on.   I'm trying to find a small one that can fill.  I just don't want a 200 pound compressor if I don't have to.

Like  4 gallon mikata or somethign like that.   

Looks like on the high end its around 1 hour 40 minutes for a top off.

On the low end I'm wondering what people are getting.

I've seen a ingersol Rand 100 percent duty 4 gallon oil compressor for 299.00 I like the weight and footprint.   I think someone has one on the forum.

Sorry I don't have another other than my tiny Harbor Freight pancake.

Well that pancake could yield useful information.   I would be curious how fast the pancake would fill it.   

Did you add that pre filter just as a precaution.  Altaros told me you don't need an additional filter as its built in.

I don't think the pancake will be effective. It will run virtually 100% of the time.

I'm being proactive on the moisture. I live in humidville. The F88 filter does a good job but the peace of mind was worth the $150 I paid for the DeVilbiss. I'll have the DeVilbiss setup to be exclusively used for the Altaros. I'm confident that nothing is getting past that filter.
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2017, 11:10:39 PM »
Terry,

Really nice thread!   ;D

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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2017, 11:12:33 PM »
Didn't help me a darn bit. Now I want one more than ever.
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2017, 11:44:29 PM »
Didn't help me a darn bit. Now I want one more than ever.

You're welcome.  ;D
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