Loading a .22 pellet into a powderburner?

[MountainMan126]

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Davide-Pedersoli-209-Hawk-Rifle/706417.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dprimer%2Bpellet%2Brifle%2B%26x%3D0%26y%3D0%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=primer+pellet+rifle+&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products

This is a more elegant solution to a primer power pellet rifle, but still not worth it considering the ARs available in the same price range.

[RedFeather]

That is the doofus gun I was talking about.  Elegant, perhaps, in the way that Winona Judd is beautiful.  For $350 you can do a whole lot better with a small caliber muzzle loader that actually is a gun.  Might as well, since that Pedersoli will be in the same class, legally, most places.

[jakerox43]

Might as well get a marlin or ruger .22....

[southpaw]

My $.02... Centerfire is just that, a firearm. I would not encourage the next generation of air gunners to experiment with primers of any size. I have a friend that lost 4 fingers and a thumb and partial loss of one eye playing with a blasting cap, thinking it was harmless without the Dynamite. Granted that's alot more energy that a primer, but that one mistake changed his life forever.

[RedFeather]

Primer Follies.  Got to CCI or another home page and look up the safety rules for primers.  I once posted them on the Yellow and they sobered some folks up.  Primers are not cap pistol ammo nor are they percussion caps for muzzle loaders.  Mishandled, you can get primer cap chain explosions, etc, with all of the associated burns, missing digits and shrapnel.  Why they make primer sorters and other safe handling devices.

Back on topic, this is not a new concept.  Sort of like taking a BB  or CB cap and deconstructing it, which is to say going back to around 1850.  Why bother?  What you will end up with is a firearm, so best check your laws.

Oh, and one more thing just came to mind.  If you are using these in a firearm, best be sure that the pellet actually left the barrel.  Othewise, the next time you load some full house ammo, Hasta la vista, baby!

[NickB79]

Since I actually shoot an AR-15, I can see the appeal of a set-up like this.  You get plenty of trigger time for practice without burning through 5.56mm ammo at 25 cents a pop, and can practice in your basement or garage, something you can't do with a .22LR upper conversion kit.  It would really appeal to those in the AR-15 community that either shoot competitively, or are practicing because they feel there will be a &^^&-hits-the-fan event in the near future when they will need to rely on their firearms for survival.

[RedFeather]

How accurate do you figure that will be, given the twist of your AR?  Cumbersome for a long session, as well, plus you will need good ventilation.  And special attention to pellets lodging in the barrel.

As to the "balloon going up", etc.  If that ever does happen, at least where I live, making every round count isn't going to be a problem since I doubt I will be around to squeeze the first one off.

[a1Bogey]

Why won't this subject go away???   Is it because the subject is stupid?.  Or is it because it is dangerous?  As Stated , primers are not toys.  They are dangerous.  Especially when not handled properly.   The idea of knocking a primer out of a shell, any shell, and inserting another inorder to fire a .22 pellet shows someone is not thinking seriously.  People that reload ammo use presses and dies designed to accomplish this feat.   To try and do this by hand using who knows what is just asking for a serious injury.  To yourself or someone nearby.  Make sure your health insurance is paid and up to date as I don't want to pay for someone's  stupidity  .  Heed the advice of others.  This is a bad idea.


Bogey

[RedFeather]

Yeah, it's getting to be long in the tooth.  The original post was about a cartridge that takes a shotgun primer and pellet for use in powder burners, so they weren't suggesting knocking out primers (really, really BAD idea, BTW) or such.  Midway has 209 primers for between $27 and $47 per 1,000.  So it's not that cheap if you shoot a lot.

[NickB79]

Redfeather,  I didn't say I didn't think this is a GOOD concept :-)  The accuracy would probably be horrible, and reload time would be a PITA.