Pcp 50 yard, 10 dime challenge

[Real Time Recon]

Yesterday with a springer and open sights .I hit a cigarette pack at 70 yds. with the 1st shot. Does that count ?

[ezman604]

Thanks Dave, I like that $3.50 target.  Now I just need some more ink.

Oh MAN...somebody stole  fitty cent from the target.
 

[Tater]

Posting this for Douger.


          http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=3768;preview

[Smoketown]

DEz... Isn't that only $3.00? 
Maybe you're counting the paper and ink?

We've been short changed!!!  Lol

That's them exorbitant "moderator administration fees" he tacked on ...

Cheers,
Smoketown

[keech1642]

I love this kind of shooting. Just started pcp, last summer with the maxius in .22 cost big factor to see if I wanted to stay with PCP. Wondering well I know I am going to move up in quality. Question does .25 give you that much more of an edge at 50yds. 22 or 25 target shooting only with every thing being the same, wind and all. Thanks for your thoughts, maybe this post does not belong on this page.

[Tweeter]

I've never actually owned a .25 pcp just .22 but if you ask me I don't think a .25 would gain me any more accuracy at 50 yards than I get now.  I think for longer ranges like 75+ yards people like the bigger calibers because they buck the wind better.  If most of your shooting is 50 yards or less a .22 will do ya just fine IMO heck even a .177 would do the trick.

[Tweeter]

Here is my attempt at 75 yards lol.  The wind was between 5 and 10mph.   I shot at each target only twice so I didn't have to reload my magazines (it was cold out)!

[Scalf]

Shooting in the wind is tough at my house .  The wind has so many things to blow around is goes every direction. Switches directions every few seconds.

[Mrturbo458]

Not bad at 50 yards! Good shooting!  I may have to give it a shot!

[Diggity95]

I stole this idea (and target) from another forum so I hope they don't get mad at me.  But why can't we join in on the fun?

Link to the target made by Oldspook:  http://www.oldspooks.com/agstuff/Ten-dimes-challenge.pdf

Hahaha, I think that was the thread that I started. What a fun shooting challenge! I'm glad to see there was enough interest to get it started here. Under the circumstances I think it's only fitting that I post the target that I shot 

I love this idea and think it's an exceptional way to display a guns capabilities. Some people shoot groups, myself included, and lots of people just cherry pick their groups, which kind of a small pet peeve of mine. You don't get to see multiple groups over a bunch of shots in a row which is where I think the more pertinent data lies.

I wish everyone would do this particular challenge and post their results so that over time we could really get a good idea of which guns in which price ranges shoot more consistently/accurately than others.

Anyway, here is my first attempt. I'm going to try again tomorrow morning, weather provided.

FX Royale 500. .25, JSB King 25 grains. Other than the snow, pretty optimal conditions regarding the wind.

I put spray adhesive on a piece of cardboard to attach the target to so that I get more clean holes and fewer tears.

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[Mrturbo458]

All sniper like out the window, like a boss! Good shooting!

[Diggity95]

All sniper like out the window, like a boss! Good shooting!

haha thank you! Keeps me warm in the winter! Sometimes it's also nice in the spring during black fly season when it gets a little unbearable outside.

[Mrturbo458]

All sniper like out the window, like a boss! Good shooting!

haha thank you! Keeps me warm in the winter! Sometimes it's also nice in the spring during black fly season when it gets a little unbearable outside.

Wish I had 100 yards indoor lol 13 yards in the basement gets old quick lol

[Diggity95]

This is my first attempt.  RAW HM 1000X ,25 cal,25.39 JSBs @ approximately  895fps.

Great shootin Scalf! I really liked the RAW 1000x I had but I wasn't able to get it to shoot quite as good as yours. Thanks for posting your results!!

Cliff

[bReTt]

I stole this idea (and target) from another forum so I hope they don't get mad at me.  But why can't we join in on the fun?

Link to the target made by Oldspook:  http://www.oldspooks.com/agstuff/Ten-dimes-challenge.pdf

Hahaha, I think that was the thread that I started. What a fun shooting challenge! I'm glad to see there was enough interest to get it started here. Under the circumstances I think it's only fitting that I post the target that I shot 

I love this idea and think it's an exceptional way to display a guns capabilities. Some people shoot groups, myself included, and lots of people just cherry pick their groups, which kind of a small pet peeve of mine. You don't get to see multiple groups over a bunch of shots in a row which is where I think the more pertinent data lies.

I wish everyone would do this particular challenge and post their results so that over time we could really get a good idea of which guns in which price ranges shoot more consistently/accurately than others.

Anyway, here is my first attempt. I'm going to try again tomorrow morning, weather provided.

FX Royale 500. .25, JSB King 25 grains. Other than the snow, pretty optimal conditions regarding the wind.

I put spray adhesive on a piece of cardboard to attach the target to so that I get more clean holes and fewer tears.

screen shot

print screen

image hosting free

I would be so excited if I could get my 400 to group like that.  I just got it so I am trying to get it figured out.   Today I went out and was going to give this target a try.  I started with 16 gr JSB on the sighter and they weren't doing so well.  I changed over to the 18 gr JSBs and sent 3 in a row into almost the same hole!  Then it started throwing them 2 mils high.... what?  Then I couldn't hit anything except the paper but definately NOT the dimes.....  bummer.    I pulled out my HW95 .177 and put 3 pellets in the same hole, literally the same hole and two just off to the side, all within a dime, no warm up shots or anything.   That rifle NEVER dissappoints. 

It was suggested that I use some JB bore paste on the FX barrel.  Any other ideas to look at?  I still haven't had time to put any pellets over the chronograph.  I will do that as soon as I can and give the barrel a cleaning. 

The targets are looking good there fellas!  I hope to join in soon.  I may just grab the 95 and go with that one since it seems to be the best one for the job!  So much for spending big $$$ for big dissapointments!  ha ha

[Diggity95]

I would be so excited if I could get my 400 to group like that.  I just got it so I am trying to get it figured out.   Today I went out and was going to give this target a try.  I started with 16 gr JSB on the sighter and they weren't doing so well.  I changed over to the 18 gr JSBs and sent 3 in a row into almost the same hole!  Then it started throwing them 2 mils high.... what?  Then I couldn't hit anything except the paper but definately NOT the dimes.....  bummer.    I pulled out my HW95 .177 and put 3 pellets in the same hole, literally the same hole and two just off to the side, all within a dime, no warm up shots or anything.   That rifle NEVER dissappoints. 

It was suggested that I use some JB bore paste on the FX barrel.  Any other ideas to look at?  I still haven't had time to put any pellets over the chronograph.  I will do that as soon as I can and give the barrel a cleaning. 

The targets are looking good there fellas!  I hope to join in soon.  I may just grab the 95 and go with that one since it seems to be the best one for the job!  So much for spending big $$$ for big dissapointments!  ha ha

Sorry to hear about the woes Brett. I would:

1) Definitely give the barrel a polishing with a nylon bore brush and some JB Paste. I've used it in both of my Royale's and they've shot lights out. I think I even used a brass brush on my first Royale with no ill effects.

2) Make sure your scope is tight, maybe try a different scope also.

3) Check and make sure your stock screw is tight.

4) Check the shroud for clipping issues. Heating the base of the shroud with a propane torch will loosen the lock tite for easy unscrewing/removal without hurting the finish. I did this to both of mine. This also makes cleaning the barrel a LOT easier.

5) Shoot the gun over a chrony. Each barrel is different and will prefer pellets to be shot at different speeds out of them. Generally speaking if you're shooting too fast, most barrels don't like that. I keep mine down to about 890 fps. Ted won Extreme Benchrest shooting at 830 fps. Also if you watch his Impact review from about a year ago, he shows his first several groups were all over the place until he started adjusting the speeds.

6) Try different pellets, don't just rely on the JSB's.

The Royale's are among the most accurate, consistent guns I've ever shot. I'm sure there is a shooter in yours as well. Worst case scenario, send it back to the retailer and let them have a go at it before abandoning all hope. The extra effort might lead to one of the best guns you've ever had. 3 in the same hole, then 2 mils high sounds to me like something is off and when you find it I think you're going to be pretty happy.

Good luck!!
All the best,
Cliff

[Sfttailrdr46]

  Waiting for the backyard to dry right now to wet and muddy to set up my 25 yard targets, also cold and windy but IDK about windy when shooting just cold wet weather stinks at my age it makes my hands hurt

[bReTt]

I would be so excited if I could get my 400 to group like that.  I just got it so I am trying to get it figured out.   Today I went out and was going to give this target a try.  I started with 16 gr JSB on the sighter and they weren't doing so well.  I changed over to the 18 gr JSBs and sent 3 in a row into almost the same hole!  Then it started throwing them 2 mils high.... what?  Then I couldn't hit anything except the paper but definately NOT the dimes.....  bummer.    I pulled out my HW95 .177 and put 3 pellets in the same hole, literally the same hole and two just off to the side, all within a dime, no warm up shots or anything.   That rifle NEVER dissappoints. 

It was suggested that I use some JB bore paste on the FX barrel.  Any other ideas to look at?  I still haven't had time to put any pellets over the chronograph.  I will do that as soon as I can and give the barrel a cleaning. 

The targets are looking good there fellas!  I hope to join in soon.  I may just grab the 95 and go with that one since it seems to be the best one for the job!  So much for spending big $$$ for big dissapointments!  ha ha

Sorry to hear about the woes Brett. I would:

1) Definitely give the barrel a polishing with a nylon bore brush and some JB Paste. I've used it in both of my Royale's and they've shot lights out. I think I even used a brass brush on my first Royale with no ill effects.

2) Make sure your scope is tight, maybe try a different scope also.

3) Check and make sure your stock screw is tight.

4) Check the shroud for clipping issues. Heating the base of the shroud with a propane torch will loosen the lock tite for easy unscrewing/removal without hurting the finish. I did this to both of mine. This also makes cleaning the barrel a LOT easier.

5) Shoot the gun over a chrony. Each barrel is different and will prefer pellets to be shot at different speeds out of them. Generally speaking if you're shooting too fast, most barrels don't like that. I keep mine down to about 890 fps. Ted won Extreme Benchrest shooting at 830 fps. Also if you watch his Impact review from about a year ago, he shows his first several groups were all over the place until he started adjusting the speeds.

6) Try different pellets, don't just rely on the JSB's.

The Royale's are among the most accurate, consistent guns I've ever shot. I'm sure there is a shooter in yours as well. Worst case scenario, send it back to the retailer and let them have a go at it before abandoning all hope. The extra effort might lead to one of the best guns you've ever had. 3 in the same hole, then 2 mils high sounds to me like something is off and when you find it I think you're going to be pretty happy.

Good luck!!
All the best,
Cliff

Thanks Cliff for all that input!  I will go about it as time permits.  I sure am hoping that this rifle is a shooter.  I thought that spending that kind of money that I wouldn't have to fiddle with it to get it there.  I was hoping to just pull it out of the box and have it shoot straight.  I'm just impatient I guess.  I think that it will do well.  I am probably painting a picture worse off than it really is.  I am just too particular sometimes for my own good!  ha ha ha!

[robertr]

 Brett, I think you have every right to expect a good shooter out of the box especially when spending that much cash, hopefully it is something you are overlooking and get it figured out soon.
 As far as the challenge, looks like fun, might give it a try.

[Diggity95]

I would be so excited if I could get my 400 to group like that.  I just got it so I am trying to get it figured out.   Today I went out and was going to give this target a try.  I started with 16 gr JSB on the sighter and they weren't doing so well.  I changed over to the 18 gr JSBs and sent 3 in a row into almost the same hole!  Then it started throwing them 2 mils high.... what?  Then I couldn't hit anything except the paper but definately NOT the dimes.....  bummer.    I pulled out my HW95 .177 and put 3 pellets in the same hole, literally the same hole and two just off to the side, all within a dime, no warm up shots or anything.   That rifle NEVER dissappoints. 

It was suggested that I use some JB bore paste on the FX barrel.  Any other ideas to look at?  I still haven't had time to put any pellets over the chronograph.  I will do that as soon as I can and give the barrel a cleaning. 

The targets are looking good there fellas!  I hope to join in soon.  I may just grab the 95 and go with that one since it seems to be the best one for the job!  So much for spending big $$$ for big dissapointments!  ha ha

Sorry to hear about the woes Brett. I would:

1) Definitely give the barrel a polishing with a nylon bore brush and some JB Paste. I've used it in both of my Royale's and they've shot lights out. I think I even used a brass brush on my first Royale with no ill effects.

2) Make sure your scope is tight, maybe try a different scope also.

3) Check and make sure your stock screw is tight.

4) Check the shroud for clipping issues. Heating the base of the shroud with a propane torch will loosen the lock tite for easy unscrewing/removal without hurting the finish. I did this to both of mine. This also makes cleaning the barrel a LOT easier.

5) Shoot the gun over a chrony. Each barrel is different and will prefer pellets to be shot at different speeds out of them. Generally speaking if you're shooting too fast, most barrels don't like that. I keep mine down to about 890 fps. Ted won Extreme Benchrest shooting at 830 fps. Also if you watch his Impact review from about a year ago, he shows his first several groups were all over the place until he started adjusting the speeds.

6) Try different pellets, don't just rely on the JSB's.

The Royale's are among the most accurate, consistent guns I've ever shot. I'm sure there is a shooter in yours as well. Worst case scenario, send it back to the retailer and let them have a go at it before abandoning all hope. The extra effort might lead to one of the best guns you've ever had. 3 in the same hole, then 2 mils high sounds to me like something is off and when you find it I think you're going to be pretty happy.

Good luck!!
All the best,
Cliff

Thanks Cliff for all that input!  I will go about it as time permits.  I sure am hoping that this rifle is a shooter.  I thought that spending that kind of money that I wouldn't have to fiddle with it to get it there.  I was hoping to just pull it out of the box and have it shoot straight.  I'm just impatient I guess.  I think that it will do well.  I am probably painting a picture worse off than it really is.  I am just too particular sometimes for my own good!  ha ha ha!

I agree 100%. 110% even. Spending that kind of cash just to spray pellets sits particularly badly with me. Let me tell you a story. At times, I've thought that I am the unluckiest guy on the planet when it comes to PCP and thought I must be cursed.

I've been through quite a few PCP's, buying and selling over the last few years, most of them "high end". They include 2 Air Arms S 5-10's, 2 Air Arms TX 200 MKIII's, 2 Daystates, a RAW HM1000x, 3 FX's, 2 Crickets, a BSA R-10 MK2, a Benjamin Marauder .25 gen 2, a Hatsan AT44, and a HW 97kt. So that is a total of 14 guns. You know how many of them were shooters right out of the box that I didn't have to either try to fix myself or send back disappointed because of some kind of problem?

Eight of them. Thats right. Six of fourteen guns all had problems or wouldn't shoot worth a &^^&. Can you believe that? of those 8, two of them I bought used, one being a cricket and the other a Hatsan AT-44 that was a refurb. So I only received 4 New guns that had no problems out of the box!!! There have been times when I've felt like stabbing myself in the eye out of frustration. I just love to shoot so much and got a lot of support from folks on the forums that kept me going. Also, thank goodness my first PCP, a Royale 500, was such a laser and I knew from the start just how awesome these PCP's could be when everything is clicking.

So there it is. If anyone here can say they feel your pain, it is me lol. I really hope you get it figured out. It does sound to me like there is something that is just "off" and if you can find it you should have airgun nirvana.

All the best,
Cliff