I can't shoot my 95 vortex QE accurately.

[xtred1]

I went by walmart and they can not have the pellets shipped to the store.

I have been getting most of my top end pellets at Alchemy AirWerks from his eBay store. I can't buy in big bulk, so for a tin now and then I have been going to Dave. He has some decent pricing and cheap shipping.  He packs them nice too.

[maraudinglizard]

Straight Shooters has a sampler of the most popular pellets, this way you are not stuck with a bunch of pellets that don't work.

http://www.straightshooters.com/straight-shooters-full-pellet-sampler-.22.html

[jim p]

About 40 years ago, I knew a guy that had a texas instrument 55 caluclator.  The calculator would double entry when you pressed a key.  He sent the calculator in for repair a couple of times and it would work correctly for a couple of weeks and then start making double entries.

He had been pushed to his limits so he takes the calculator our and shoots it a couple of times with a 44 magnum.  He then writes up a great letter explaining how the calculator decided to challenge the 44 to a duel and that the deceased fought a good fight but in the end it just couldn't survive the blows from the 44.  The repair guys wrote him back a letter explaining how brave it was for the calculator to even attempt to defeat a 44 and for it bravery that they were sending him a new calculator and that they hoped that this calculator would be more level headed and not try to defeat a 44.  It turned out to be a great way to satisfy a customer.

Just wondering which scope you used to replace the hammers.

I think that the hatsan may shoot pretty well if I can ever get a good scope and get it mounted correctly.  I ordered a couple of hammers scopes that I may just put on my 1300's, because I like the scopes.  I just don't know if they will stand up on the 95QE.

I put a hammers scope on my Gamo Bone Collector Bull Whisper and it lasted 2 days.  I shook one of the lens loose.  I'll bet if you push on the front of back lens of that hammers, the lens will spin.  I was so mad, I target practiced by shooting pellets into the scope to destroy it.  It was a cheap scope and it died a cheap death.  It took me a while to figure it out.  I would look into the scope and have a clear sight picture.  Take a shot and the entire scope view would be fuzzy.  Then is would clear up and I could shoot again.  The lens kept moving and would move back into place until a shoot moved it.  I finally looked at the scope after on shot when the picture went way outta wack and noticed the rear lens was spun sideways.  I don't think I've ever used a cheaper scope.  Never again!

[Wildcatter]

Believe it or not,  it ate a centerpoint scope in a few days after that.  Got a Tasco and that is holding up so far....

[A.K.A. Tommy Boy]

I put a hammers scope on my Gamo Bone Collector Bull Whisper and it lasted 2 days.  I shook one of the lens loose.  I'll bet if you push on the front of back lens of that hammers, the lens will spin.  I was so mad, I target practiced by shooting pellets into the scope to destroy it. I was a cheap scope and it died a cheap death.  It took me a while to figure it out. I would look into the scope and have a clear sight picture.  Take a shot and the entire scope view would be fuzzy.  Then is would clear up and I could shoot again.  The lens kept moving and would move back into place until a shoot moved it.  I finally looked at the scope after on shot when the picture went way outta wack and noticed the rear lens was spun sideways.  I don't think I've ever used a cheaper scope.  Never again!

Way to GO THERE !   And I thought I was the only ANGRY VIOLENT ONE !     My Very Best Regards to YOU   -   Tom

[Wildcatter]

With the mount, I think I paid around $30.  Learned a lesson, though

[Hoosier Daddy]

Believe it or not,  it ate a centerpoint scope in a few days after that.  Got a Tasco and that is holding up so far....

Doesn't CP have a lifetime warranty?
Might be worth checking into.

[A.K.A. Tommy Boy]

Believe it or not,  it ate a centerpoint scope in a few days after that.  Got a Tasco and that is holding up so far....

Doesn't CP have a lifetime warranty?
Might be worth checking into.

GEE Scott...this guy likes to shoot holes thru his scopes...let him have some more FUN why-don't-ya.  He Desperately Needs some kind of "CLOSURE".       Best Regards   -   Tom

[Hoosier Daddy]

HaHaHa
Well then, by all means.... Have at it!

[nced]

I have 500 to 1000 shots on the gun using crosman premier hollow points.

I am going to check all the stock screws to see if anything is loose.

I don't mind putting another 1000 shots through the gun if that is needed to get the pellets to one hole at 20 yards.

There is just something wrong with hitting 600 yard targets with my 223 and not being able to hit a 20 yard target with my springer.

"There is just something wrong with hitting 600 yard targets with my 223 and not being able to hit a 20 yard target with my springer."
I personally believe that if you can shoot a recoiling piston gun well then you can shoot ANYTHING well!

Anywhoo......with a recoiling piston gun, my experience is that the more the fpe at the muzzle goes up relative to the weight of the gun, the more the difficulty increases when it comes to putting pellets on the aim point! While I really don't think that my old heavier fixed barrel HW77k was inherently more accurate than my lighter break barrel R9, I did feel that the HW77k was easier to get good accuracy. 

[jim p]

I ordered two hammers scopes.  Now  I will have one to use while one is being mailed in for warranty.  If I average sending a scope back every two weeks it will be about $1500 per year of warranty work.  I wonder how long the warranty will be honored. 

[Back_Roads]

 I just saw an add for the new Bushnell scopes , they claim you can run it over , burn it shoot it etc. and they will send you a new scope when you return a box of crushed glass and metal

[A.K.A. Tommy Boy]

Gee Jim...I hope the new scopes can solve all the Problems for you.  I've been following this post very carefully.   What a hassle.  You might want to Check out the New Scopes Real Closely before you put them on any gun.  Is there any way I can help out sir ?    My Best Regards   -   Tom

[Sfttailrdr46]

  The nature of springers is hard on scopes even a decent PB scope may not hold up to a powerful springer. When I first joined the forum someone had posted a video of the shot cycle of a springer. There are two components to the recoil both forward and back then the spring unwinding as it decompresses causing torque. My Gamo Whisper Fusion destroyed several scopes until I did a full home tune to tame the beast it still shoots hard but no twang and a smooth shot cycle with virtually no torque due to having de-burred every moving part including the spring ends then lubing with Ultimox #226, installing a snug spring guide and Pepsi bottle outer sleeve on the spring. Now at 25 yards I have minute of paint ball accuracy it even does well with soda cans at 25 to 30 yards shooting off hand. 

[jim p]

Tom, I can't think of anything you could do to help out but I do appreciate the offer.

My springer experience has been interesting.  I got a 95 springer and after shooting it for 500 to 1000 times I noticed that the safety didn't work.  I sent it back for repair and it was replaced with a 95 QE vortex which I have now.  I discovered that the optimus scope was not in focus at 20 yards.  So I get the hammers scope and the AO is something that I have never had on a scope.  I really liked the hammers scope.  I noticed that the scope screws were being shaken loose so I remove the scope and use loctite when I returned the scope to the gun.  While I had the scope off I noticed that the bottom of the mount had been shaved off like you took a sharp knife to it. 

I tried to get the 95 to shoot and finally gave up.  I took the scope off and put it on a 1322.  This is when I noticed that each time I pumped the gun the scope would rattle.  I shot maybe 100 shots while the scope was on the 1322 and the gun would shoot maybe 3 pellets into the same hole at 20 yards and then it would shoot one pellet maybe an inch away.

I hope that I don't sound upset because I am not.  I like having problems like this because I like to learn new things.  When everything goes perfect there is no challenge to dig in and learn the ins and outs of a situation.  When I get the 95 to putting pellets into the same hole at 20 yards, I am going to feel like I accomplished something.

This may be another fun thing to add to the party.  I ordered 2 scopes and I received an e mail stating that my scope had been shipped.  I have written back to the seller and asked them to verify that they have shipped two scopes instead of just one.  This is not a big deal.  The worst case is that I will have to make a complaint to paypal.

I am really blessed just to be able to have this equipment and to play with it. 

Your support and encouragement has truly been a help when trying to get the accuracy from this air gun.

Thanks.

[jim p]

I like the minute of paint ball accuracy.  I have been thinking of getting some paint balls for targets.  I bet some paint balls and golf tees would give some kids a lot of fun.

Will a pellet vaporize a paint ball or does it just knock it around?

[Sfttailrdr46]

I like the minute of paint ball accuracy.  I have been thinking of getting some paint balls for targets.  I bet some paint balls and golf tees would give some kids a lot of fun.

Will a pellet vaporize a paint ball or does it just knock it around?

They make an awesome reactive target at 25 yards you can see the spray and if you put a light colored piece of cardboard behind using different colored paint balls can have fun with multi colored modern art . The golf tees make excellent secondary targets after the paint balls are all shot off the tees. 

[xtred1]

I have 500 to 1000 shots on the gun using crosman premier hollow points.

I am going to check all the stock screws to see if anything is loose.

I don't mind putting another 1000 shots through the gun if that is needed to get the pellets to one hole at 20 yards.

There is just something wrong with hitting 600 yard targets with my 223 and not being able to hit a 20 yard target with my springer.

"There is just something wrong with hitting 600 yard targets with my 223 and not being able to hit a 20 yard target with my springer."
I personally believe that if you can shoot a recoiling piston gun well then you can shoot ANYTHING well!

Anywhoo......with a recoiling piston gun, my experience is that the more the fpe at the muzzle goes up relative to the weight of the gun, the more the difficulty increases when it comes to putting pellets on the aim point! While I really don't think that my old heavier fixed barrel HW77k was inherently more accurate than my lighter break barrel R9, I did feel that the HW77k was easier to get good accuracy.

It would take a bunch more work to hit targets at 600 yards if your 223 fired from a open bolt.  When I think of break barrel guns I think of a light weight powder burner that fires from the open bolt.

[jim p]

The scope seller contacted me and said that both scopes were shipped.  So this is a piece of good news.

I had thought about the modern art of paint ball shooting.  I need to go by walmart today and see if I can buy a few.

I am not sure what an open bolt is but it doesn't seem like something that would be fun to shoot.

[TwiceHorn]

"Open-bolt" refers to a semi- or automatic weapon that fires from an "open bolt," meaning the trigger releases the bolt, which then closes and ignites the primer, usually by a fixed firing pin. It's a rather crude but effective way of building an automatic machine gun or SMG.  Some select-fire rifles shoot open-bolt in fully automatic and closed in semi-automatic mode.

Not sure I get the analogy to break barrels, though.