Author Topic: I can't shoot my 95 vortex QE accurately. (Read 13323 times))

jim p · « **Reply #40 on:** November 20, 2016, 02:37:42 PM »

I went by walmart and they can not have the pellets shipped to the store.

maraudinglizard · « **Reply #41 on:** November 20, 2016, 04:48:22 PM »

Quote from: jim p on November 20, 2016, 02:37:42 PM

I went by walmart and they can not have the pellets shipped to the store.

The online walmart pick up shows that Alexander city, Tallassee, and both Auburn stores show instore pick up times. I have shipped site to store on numerous occasions with no problems. I do this especially when it comes to air guns and pellets. You have to have a walmart account to make the final shipping arrangements be for checkout. I hope this helps out.

packard8 · « **Reply #42 on:** November 20, 2016, 06:24:15 PM »

Quote from: jim p on November 20, 2016, 02:37:42 PM

I went by walmart and they can not have the pellets shipped to the store.

Must be a regional thing? I've used Walmart's ship to store for pellets in both CA & OK with no issues. However I have an Amazon prime account and use them more often, 2 day free shipping on almost anything from a bar of soap to air rifles & pellets.

jim p · « **Reply #43 on:** November 20, 2016, 07:24:05 PM »

The store said that some items listed on line come from another vendor and can't be shipped to walmart for pickup.

I just ordered 500 from amazon for $10,98 and free shipping. So I will get to try them out in a few days.

Thanks everyone for the help and encouragement.

jim p · « **Reply #44 on:** November 30, 2016, 10:43:26 AM »

These crosman premier ultra magnum 177 at 10.5 grains are shooting much better. Maybe a .5" group at 20 yards.

Also the gun is much quieter. I don't hear the ringing after the shot. This makes me want to use a 12 grain pellet.

Also I can tell by how the pellet head goes into the barrel how the gun is going to shoot. If the head goes in snug it will be dead on. If the head is loose it is going to shoot .5" high. This makes me think that I could get a pellet gauge and sort the pellets and really tighten up the groups. I don't know where my micrometer is at the moment but it would be interesting to see how much the diameter of the heads vary. I am thinking that it is not much maybe 4 thousands at the most.

The winds are gusting here today so I only shot 20 pellets or so. I am looking forward to a nice calm day so that I can do some more testing.

anti-squirrel · « **Reply #45 on:** November 30, 2016, 06:17:09 PM »

Quote from: jim p on November 30, 2016, 10:43:26 AM

These crosman premier ultra magnum 177 at 10.5 grains are shooting much better. Maybe a .5" group at 20 yards.

Also the gun is much quieter. I don't hear the ringing after the shot. This makes me want to use a 12 grain pellet.

Also I can tell by how the pellet head goes into the barrel how the gun is going to shoot. If the head goes in snug it will be dead on. If the head is loose it is going to shoot .5" high. This makes me think that I could get a pellet gauge and sort the pellets and really tighten up the groups. I don't know where my micrometer is at the moment but it would be interesting to see how much the diameter of the heads vary. I am thinking that it is not much maybe 4 thousands at the most.

The winds are gusting here today so I only shot 20 pellets or so. I am looking forward to a nice calm day so that I can do some more testing.

Great news about the heavier pellets, Jim!

I have a box of 10.5 grain Crosman CPUP that I'm going to measure. In my PCP pistol, I get three distinct groups when using the same PoA, but each group is a tight cloverleaf. They are "accurate enough" up to about 12 yards. Anything further and the POI shift from aim-point is over a half-inch.

It might be worth exploring some of the real heavy-weight pellets. I have superb accuracy with Skenco Newboys- they weigh 13 grains. The Eun Jin 16.1... maybe you'll be one of the lucky souls they shoot accurately for. I swear I can shoot them more accurately out of my slingshots than I can out of one of my airguns.

SteveP-52 · « **Reply #46 on:** November 30, 2016, 06:59:52 PM »

I have a tin of JSB Exact Monsters, 13.4gr and they actually shoot pretty well in a couple of my .177's and quiet them some. Couldn't remember what I paid for them so I went looking and took 5 minutes to make a list of 12-14 grain pellets which didn't take long as there are only 4 and the H&N Silver Points which are marked Pre-order at the moment at $15.50 a tin are the same as the below listed Beeman's with the same name which is no real surprise since H&N makes Beeman branded pellets, the H&N's just cost more.
Here's the list if you're interested:
JSB Monster 13.4gr, 400 count tin, $14.75: https://www.pyramydair.com/product/jsb-exact-monster-177-cal-13-4-grains-cylindrical-400ct?p=897

Beeman Silver Arrow 11.57gr, 300 count tin, $10.95: https://www.pyramydair.com/product/beeman-silver-arrow-177-cal-11-57-grains-pointed-300ct?p=319

Predator Newboy 13.0 Grains, Pointed, 150ct, $7.52: https://www.pyramydair.com/product/skenco-newboy-177-cal-13-0-grains-pointed-150ct?p=634

Hoosier Daddy · « **Reply #47 on:** November 30, 2016, 07:52:29 PM »

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H&N Silver Points which are marked Pre-order at the moment at $15.50 a tin are the same as the below listed Beeman's with the same name which is no real surprise since H&N makes Beeman branded pellets, the H&N's just cost more.

So if you were H&N, and putting YOUR name on something plus selling the same pellet to another company to rebrand as their own... meanwhile they are cutting your throat on pricing...
What quality run would you keep for yourself?

Wildcatter · « **Reply #48 on:** November 30, 2016, 08:00:40 PM »

There are also pellets called piledrivers that are pretty expensive, but VERY heavy. Shoot hit with good force!

jim p · « **Reply #49 on:** November 30, 2016, 08:20:32 PM »

Thanks for the list of pellets. Thanks for measuring the premiers. I am wanting to know how they measure.

anti-squirrel · « **Reply #50 on:** December 01, 2016, 12:21:24 PM »

All of you evil enablers just convinced me to buy some .177 JSB Monsters.

While I love my 95QE in .25, a .177 would be interesting... and I must say the Cometa 220 Compact sure looks nice too!

SteveP-52 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 01, 2016, 01:17:11 PM »

I'm not an enabler...honest...I just happen to have a Hatsan Model 87 QE Vortex .177 that for all intents is a Model 95 in a synthetic stock and those JSB's are just one of the pellets it shoots silly accurate as long as I do my part

Would look better in Turkish Walnut stock but I do like the adjustable cheek riser...just needs to be rescoped at some point.

jim p · « **Reply #52 on:** December 02, 2016, 12:37:39 PM »

I ordered some jsb exact monsters 13.4 grains. I hope that these don't shoot any better than the crosman premiers. If these do shoot great they will only be used for hunting and not for plinking. So I guess that I really hope that they are extremely accurate. Maybe they will be very quiet also at the slower speed.

The experimentation continues.

jim p · « **Reply #53 on:** December 15, 2016, 06:16:50 PM »

Update. I put a hammers 3x9x32 mil dot scope on the rifle and it is now shooting .5 to .75" groups at 20 yards using the 7.9gr crosman premier hollow point pellets.

So this is good enough for me to do some hunting.

Thanks for all the help.

Mr. Panther · « **Reply #54 on:** December 27, 2016, 07:17:20 PM »

My Hatsans/ Webley rifles all shoot accurate, and if I do my part, they scatter shots all over the place real well.

jim p · « **Reply #55 on:** December 28, 2016, 09:24:13 AM »

Another update. My hammers scope is now rattling. So I am thinking that the qe has shaken something loose inside the scope. The accuracy is now back to 1.25" or larger groups.

I stuck the hammers scope on a 1300kt and it would shoot tight groups but it would have a flyer about every 7 shots. I think that something is moving inside the scope.

I think that this rattle is a problem.

jim p · « **Reply #56 on:** December 28, 2016, 08:38:24 PM »

I sighted the 95 in using its iron sights and with a good contrasting target it is shooting groups as good as when I was using a scope. Now I am thinking that the gun will shoot and the scopes have been the problem all along.

I am still not sure.

Hoosier Daddy · « **Reply #57 on:** December 28, 2016, 09:02:25 PM »

If your scope rattles it's toast.

That said, I just went back and checked all my posts here. No mention that I got a kluncker 95 and wound up returning it. Exchanged it through PA for a Crosman Genesis I truly love.
Just sayin... every now and then you get a dud.

Wildcatter · « **Reply #58 on:** December 28, 2016, 09:34:54 PM »

I put a hammers scope on my Gamo Bone Collector Bull Whisper and it lasted 2 days. I shook one of the lens loose. I'll bet if you push on the front of back lens of that hammers, the lens will spin. I was so mad, I target practiced by shooting pellets into the scope to destroy it. It was a cheap scope and it died a cheap death. It took me a while to figure it out. I would look into the scope and have a clear sight picture. Take a shot and the entire scope view would be fuzzy. Then is would clear up and I could shoot again. The lens kept moving and would move back into place until a shoot moved it. I finally looked at the scope after on shot when the picture went way outta wack and noticed the rear lens was spun sideways. I don't think I've ever used a cheaper scope. Never again!

Hoosier Daddy · « **Reply #59 on:** December 28, 2016, 09:53:03 PM »

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I was so mad, I target practiced by shooting pellets into the scope to destroy it.

HA HA HA!
Moxy is what you got... Friggin awesome!

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