RTI Arms

[oldpro]

 If this gun shoots well and doesnt have the Impact issues with its price point it will put a sting in those FX sales. Any idea on launch date as of late?

[DocMortal]

I called R&L great people by the way ,The Priest are now 3 to 4 weeks away.

I went ahead and canceled my order got myself a Wildcat .25.

I was looking forward to this gun but just to impatient and need to shoot lol.

Good luck guys I'm sure it will be a winner!

[Bizill]

AFAIK the Wildcat has been time-proven and has a longstanding company to back it.  RTI Arms is new so there exists no track record.  I doubt the Priest would end up a $1,200 paper weight but who can tell at this stage. 

[oldpro]

AFAIK the Wildcat has been time-proven and has a longstanding company to back it.  RTI Arms is new so there exists no track record.  I doubt the Priest would end up a $1,200 paper weight but who can tell at this stage.

Both good statements

[rkr]

“You can add a LDC which should make it really quiet but the thread is M14, not the usual 1/2" UNF.”

If I look on Priest it is the time to switch to metric system.
I hope that RTI Arms also develop word wide unique barrel at caliber  3,5 mm for 16 Joule guns

I don't quite understand why we should suddenly move to M14 threads while 1/2" UNF is de-facto standard for airguns. All LDC manufacturers support 1/2" while only few can provide M14 versions. This sounds like one of them things EU does, we'll change the standard because we can (and because it was not invented in France) - no matter the costs or complications.

[PiterM]

I don't quite understand why we should suddenly move to M14 threads while 1/2" UNF is de-facto standard for airguns.

To sell more own products? Best way to sell another moderator to someone, who already has some.

BTW, it's not just European approach. Recently I was looking for moderator for my Theoben SLR and guess what... Theoben own thread with 28 TPI instead of 20 TPI, which is standard for airguns. I ended up with a cu$tom one. So it happens everywhere...

[oldpro]

The answer is to prevent your moderator from being able to be put on a powder burner and that my friend is a federal offense. We at WAR do the same thing for just that reason

[skorec]

“You can add a LDC which should make it really quiet but the thread is M14, not the usual 1/2" UNF.”

If I look on Priest it is the time to switch to metric system.
I hope that RTI Arms also develop word wide unique barrel at caliber  3,5 mm for 16 Joule guns

I don't quite understand why we should suddenly move to M14 threads while 1/2" UNF is de-facto standard for airguns. All LDC manufacturers support 1/2" while only few can provide M14 versions. This sounds like one of them things EU does, we'll change the standard because we can (and because it was not invented in France) - no matter the costs or complications.

SORRY
Not suddenly but step by step. This air  gun is good enough to accept first step however I am also confused whit not standard  thread.  Sorry about   banter from my side.

I really do not like yards, feet, inches, PSI, FPE, ……
SORRY

[Jman2311]

If you're anything like me it is a very impatient wait.  There just isn't anything else on the market offering what the priest does, Less you want to pay $750 more and like pellet probes slamming into your shoulder/neck at any given time.  I am dying at this point... Donny LDC with priest threading, New Athlon Talos scope, sling and mounts, JSB Kings... NO USE TO ME AT ALL TIL THE PRIEST GETS HERE.

[rkr]

The answer is to prevent your moderator from being able to be put on a powder burner and that my friend is a federal offense. We at WAR do the same thing for just that reason

M14 thread is actually commonly used for powder burner LDCs here in Europe. Of course 1/2" UNF is also common for rimfires and .223s so in that sense it doesn't make a difference. Skorec, no need to be sorry but from manufacturer point of view it's just plain stupid to deviate from existing standards. It's like inventing 24mm wide picatinny style rail and insisting on using that. It will help you to sell mounts but it's not going to make your gun popular.

[Job]

Who do you think is the manufacturer of the regulator, are
perhaps Chinese, so have that thread?

[scrane]

28 is the standard thread size for firearm silencers. A spec many airgunners and airgun manufacturers should avoid.

[Smaug2]

I'm with oldpro here. Looks like a shameless copy of the FX Impact.

The shipping delay probably has to do with being tied up in court.

[Bizill]

Do more research.  Rumor has it this was on the design table before the Impact.  I don't know its validity but the word's out there.  Concerning the delay, supposedly it's an air leak that's being corrected.  Supposedly.  No need to dash my dreams with rumor and conjecture.  (Hopefully this thing doesn't end up being a nightmare)

[deucelee]

I'm with oldpro here. Looks like a shameless copy of the FX Impact.

The shipping delay probably has to do with being tied up in court.

who cares if it's similar looking...maybe it's just me that don't care...as long as it performs, don't have issues, and shoots great, I'll take it for several, several hundred less than the Impact. 

[oldpro]

I'm with oldpro here. Looks like a shameless copy of the FX Impact.

The shipping delay probably has to do with being tied up in court.

who cares if it's similar looking...maybe it's just me that don't care...as long as it performs, don't have issues, and shoots great, I'll take it for several, several hundred less than the Impact. 

People with moral fiber care who are tired of seeing great ideas stolen by those of no moral fiber to profit from others hard work.

[StevenG]

To make such a claim you do have evidence, right?
Some proof, other than they look similar?

Without that evidence or a complete tear down of both guns showing the parts being copied, I would think those with moral fiber would reserve judgement.

[Jman2311]

I'm with oldpro here. Looks like a shameless copy of the FX Impact.

The shipping delay probably has to do with being tied up in court.

Can someone please explain to me why this whole fx impact "copy" thing is everywhere???  I mean really guys,  this design  route is exactly what you would expect when the airgun industry is trying to maximize shot count, power, consistency, and accuracy in a bullpup. Does anyone have issues with the similarities between the daystate air wolf and the fx royal??  No.  So why does this perpetuate here? 

The word that I got was some faulty gas tubes that were not machined to proper specs. These tubes, as I understand from a chat with randy, were from the trigger area to the rear.  I was told there were 3 rifles that experienced failures, no way to know what or how serious those failures were, but that they decided to recheck and replace, if needed, every rifle's gas tubes before they released them to ensure no chance of future failures.  I assume leaks. Others have mentioned leaks but I don't actually know.  Still looking forward to getting my hands on this rifle. Hopefully sooner than later.

[oldpro]

To make such a claim you do have evidence, right?
Some proof, other than they look similar?

Without that evidence or a complete tear down of both guns showing the parts being copied, I would think those with moral fiber would reserve judgement.

What are you talking about? They have to be EXACTLY the same to be a copy!!! I'm not blind nor are you and if you can't see with your own eyes we have nothing more to talk about.

[oldpro]

One last thing and I'm done with this thread. I expressed my opinion on the ongoing safety problems with the Impact when it came out and everyone was quick to judge me and point fingers Where are those people now when many many owners have shown it's not ready yet.But FX is a big company with deep pockets and will sort threw the various impact problems and it will be a fantastic gun I've said this from day one. FX has been around a long time because they make great guns and when I see a blatant copy of a company's hard work at nearly half the price it makes me sick. I worked for Polaris and they spent untold amount of moneys protecting their product from counterfeiting and cloning this money could have been used to support families and provide more benefits for employees. Yet people will gladly pay half the price for inferior products with no thought as to how it affects the overall picture. There are so many designs and ideas that could be explored why bother copying anyone other than purely to profit from others hard work. Yes im and opinionated old dude and that won't change now and I hope I never compromise those ideals.