RTI Arms

[Bizill]

So I guess that screw on the regulator would adjust it?  No way to see what you've adjusted it to besides a chrony to find your speed?  That or another in-line manometer?  I guess it doesn't matter too much what setting you're at so long as you meet your needs using a chrony.

[BigTinBoat]

So I guess that screw on the regulator would adjust it?  No way to see what you've adjusted it to besides a chrony to find your speed?  That or another in-line manometer?  I guess it doesn't matter too much what setting you're at so long as you meet your needs using a chrony.

No - the regulator bonnet is taken off and then the belleville stack it made shorter, or longer to lower or raise the pressure. Not an exact science, it takes some trial and error. For instance a "stack" that gives 1200psi might take a shim of .01" to raise it 100psi, but a "stack" that gives 2800 might only take a .001" shim to raise the pressure 100psi.

Best way it to have a pressure gauge that you can screw the ASA fitting into. I made mine from an ASA on/off valve and a gauge.

Once your regulator is changed you then need to change the hammer spring tension to adjust it for efficiency.

[Bizill]

Thanks for the explanation.  So obviously it'd be normal they provide necessary amounts of various shims, as would any rugulator/regulated bottle such as this? 

[BigTinBoat]

Thanks for the explanation.  So obviously it'd be normal they provide necessary amounts of various shims, as would any rugulator/regulated bottle such as this?

Doubtful. The manufacturer will (should) tune the gun for what they feel best. It is up to you if you want to change it.
It would be like Remington providing you with powder, primers and different weight slugs to that you could fine tune their 30-06 ammo they produce.
Or like Chevrolet providing you will several different sets of axle gears so that depending if you drive city, beltway or tow trailers the majority of the time.

Now ninja does sell some regulators that they advertise as "Adjustable". With these they do include 2 or 3 shims so that you can change the pressure from 850 to about 1000psi. (IIRC)

[Bizill]

Gotcha, thanks for another learning session.

So looking at their website they say they're regulated at 125 bar, would I be correct to assume that would be best for .22 and it would be higher for their .25 kit when it's shipped?  Sorry, still learning all this fun stuff.

Also, I've only had a limited chance to skim through the long review on youtube posted here and couldn't critique it.  Was that ping I was hearing when the gentleman shot it?  I know you can deping the reservoirs on say, a Marauder but if that's ping in the bottle of the Priest, can that be remedied?  Sorry for the odd questions.  I've got a limited timeframe to decide whether or not to accept/keep my Armada that's inbound or wait for the Priest.  All whilst going into this as a rookie.

[Tucobenedicto]

That was my thinking too,a rifle priced like this would deserve an high quality regulator,not a one we can buy from china for 12 bucks 
Fortunately a Ninja rebuild kit can push up consistency and reliability at low cost.
Doing this require a regulator tester with a decent gauge,but this is always a good investment for pcp owners.

[Job]

This would be a good combination for this gun, but regulator it can go up to 3000 psi 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-New-Paintball-Airsoft-3000-4500PSI-Air-Tank-Regulator-Output-Pressure-450-2200-PSI-Hairline-Finish/32726789053.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.162.2x5LAC&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_4&btsid=1302d15f-b981-4cab-912b-0c9d51474cd3

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5L-30MPa-High-Pressure-Composite-Carbon-Fiber-Compressed-Air-Mini-Gas-Cylinder-Bottle/32695958681.html?spm=2114.01010108.3.208.Fi5whP&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_4&btsid=a5d18f81-3817-4619-b1d6-15f8c4f0b1dd

[BigTinBoat]

This would be a good combination for this gun, but regulator it can go up to 3000 psi 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-New-Paintball-Airsoft-3000-4500PSI-Air-Tank-Regulator-Output-Pressure-450-2200-PSI-Hairline-Finish/32726789053.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.162.2x5LAC&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_4&btsid=1302d15f-b981-4cab-912b-0c9d51474cd3

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5L-30MPa-High-Pressure-Composite-Carbon-Fiber-Compressed-Air-Mini-Gas-Cylinder-Bottle/32695958681.html?spm=2114.01010108.3.208.Fi5whP&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_4&btsid=a5d18f81-3817-4619-b1d6-15f8c4f0b1dd

Looks to me like the reg can go to 4500psi. Most likely the reg on the gun can be unscrewed from the aluminum bottle and put right on the CF bottle you have listed. Most of the "imported" bottle (daystate, AF, etc. )are metric thread like the CF ones.

[Bizill]

Well after my Armada showed up with issues, it's going back.  Got my downpayment in with R&L.  I'll be a guinea pig, against my normally better judgement.  Hey, I'm a religious man...

[aluminumfetish]

I found this on youtube today... haven't seen it in the forums. It's got a similar style too !! Sorry if this isn't thread worthy but it is similar.

[Skinard88]

The predator marauder titanium is pretty darn cool!  Where can we buy one of those I wander?

[Cyknife]

  I certainly would take a priest over and impact from what ive seen so far but not having shot one yet who knows? I like the design alot and I had something very very similar in the works and had to drop it when the impact arrived on the market. I love all the new technology thats pumping into the market these days, we are going to see advances like no other time in PCP history the next few years.

Why drop your product? The impact is merely the bare Essence of a bullpup (with a chubby price tag) same with this rti. Pure form follows function. And now I want one.

[rkr]

The predator marauder titanium is pretty darn cool!  Where can we buy one of those I wander?

Sorry but to me it looks like a hack. Questionable design solutions and quality wise it looks like something I could have made (not a good thing). Just look at the breech, it's made from four separate pieces and the upper with magazine well is really flimsy. How about a nice and sturdy monoblock with proper support for free floating barrel so you don't need a barrel band on the bottle?

[Zebra]

Rob I respect your opinion and I totally understand where your coming from but they look too close for comfort to me. If I was FX id be really perturbed but they probably have their hands full with all the issues the Impact has. I certainly would take a priest over and impact from what ive seen so far but not having shot one yet who knows? I like the design alot and I had something very very similar in the works and had to drop it when the impact arrived on the market. I love all the new technology thats pumping into the market these days, we are going to see advances like no other time in PCP history the next few years.

As long as it's not outside the law, all is fair in love and war as they say.

If you create a new design then you can patent the original features but a company has no exclusive rights over design features they did not invent. With the best will in the world, if FX are not comfortable with the Priest, that's just tough. You have to expect competition if you're in business and they have no claim over air guns with the AR look.

Even if FX had a legal claim, they would have to prove damages and it's hard to claim that your business has been harmed when you have a 6 month backlog of orders for the product in question.

If I were you, I would feel free to release any product you like without worrying if it looks similar to an FX. Believe me, they will not be showing you the same courtesy. You are competitors and you owe them nothing. Just like how Pepsi has no reason to care that their product looks like Coke or McDonald's with Burger King.

You have to assume that the air gun market will develop like the firearms market if it continues to grow. Look at the AR platform where you can legally buy generic receivers from a large number of small machine shops throughout America. Customers have a range of options for quality and price plus a huge number of compatible aftermarket accessories. They all compete on quality and price (The way it should be).

IMO, the smart airgun manufacturer would be licensing out popular designs and creating an equivalent platform that customers  and manufacturers of aftermarket accessories can invest in. That's how you monetize your IP. Air gun designs are too easy to copy for any company to be able to keep their designs as sacred cows. All this reinventing the wheel just adds cost and time to the process that benefits nobody.

The way I look at it... If it's good for you, good for your customers, good for your investors and not illegal, there is no moral issues to worry about.

What isn't good or moral is when customers don't have a choice and are treated poorly. Exclusivity and monopolies usually results in exploitation.

Plus, there is more than enough business for all of you to do well.

I (for one) would love to see a WAR bullpup. I think it would be awesome. I'd like it to be based on the Flex platform and be modular so I could use it as a bullpup or a rifle, short or long, big bore or small - all with a range of aftermarket accessories.

I would like scope rails to be attached to the barrel like on the Steyr HS50 so you can switch caliber  without having to rezero every time. Just my 2c.

[Bizill]

$62.25 each per mag.  Ships with one.  Hurry up and release the gun so somebody can whip up a single shot tray!

[Harold999]

Just heard that the .30 Priest will be around $350,- more than the smaller calibers. 

[Bizill]

It was asked on Youtube:

How many shots per fill did you get with the .25


Gregor Kamenšek1 day ago
Around 60 - 70 shots at high power from 300 bar fill

[Zebra]

Just heard that the .30 Priest will be around $350,- more than the smaller calibers. 

You sure that's not $350 for the .30 barrel kit?

[aluminumfetish]

I think he said 350.00 more than the smaller barrel kits.

[Harold999]

Just heard that the .30 Priest will be around $350,- more than the smaller calibers. 

You sure that's not $350 for the .30 barrel kit?

Pretty sure. A Priest in .30 will be $1350. A Priest in .177/.22/.25 will be $995.

Pricing of the barrel kits, no idea, but the .30 kit should be a fair amount. Wáy more than the other kits.