Does the Diana Bullseye Z R mount WORK?

[HectorMedina]

Thanks, my friends for your kind words. I just try to be of service. Sometimes it is hard keeping to the facts, we're all human, but I try my best. And believe me that shooters come before the brand in my priorities.

@Mike.- I am sorry you feel that way about ZR Mounts. We've discussed the items internally several times, and somewhat "heatedly", LOL! But our limitation as a brand is the price for the average public.
In the same way that the 54 is a badly misunderstood platform almost 40 years into its introduction, the ZR Mounts are still misunderstood. I've read about people complaining that the spring was in the opposite direction of where it should be to "soften the recoil" and also about people complaining about binding, when they had taken the mounts apart and re-tightened everything to death.
As much as I can do is offer you an Accurized one to test. IF (big IF)  you like it, you keep it and pay for it, if you don't, you return it. I just kindly request that, if it works (holds zero, does not bind), you declare that it does.
At most, you're out of the $11 of the return shipping.

What say ye?


Keep well and shoot straight!







HM

[Rick67]

Okay its been 4 years now and the zero of my gun has not change at all . Taking  the mount completely apart  and  getting rid of all the grease off the  allen screws  and inside the threads  and then putting it back  together with loctite on ever screw and let it set completely  up  I think is a must do  for this  mount to work . You also have to make sure that once you have your scope rings  tightened up  that the scope  moves  back and forth  like it did without the scope on it . It it doesn't spring back even with a 2 lb  16 in long  10-40x56  scope  on it then your  tightening one screw more than the other and causing it to bind up . Keep trying till it moves freely . Once its set up correctly  this mount will save your scope and  keep your zero  even on a magnum springer like my Hatsan 125 sniper. I have two  of these mounts now and both work perfectly . Just take the time and  set it up right .

Nice view!

I was not talking about the thread though

[NorCalMan]

I've heard just as much bad about them as good. So far, my scopes do well on both my rifles without one.

[Charles Outdoors]

Here I am 6 years later looking at trying a 17.00 knock off of the Bullseye mount. I must be crazy to think there's a chance this will turn out well after reading through the trouble I had before.

[Denby95]

Mine is for sale in the classified sections right now if anyone is interested! Comes with a ali express china version too.

[jkingrph]

I have one sitting in the box a 30mm model with inserts for 1".  I tried it on my Diana 54 AirKing Pro, and it just did not work.  Something about that gun must have a lot of muzzle droop. I got a set of Sports Match adjustable mounts and was able to bring point of impact up about 8", where I had run out of internal adjustment on a Hawke Airmax compact 30mm. Yesterday I swapped to a smaller scope and had gotten a set of the same rings, but 1" and noticed the same problem but had no problems zeroing it with the rings. I'll probably give the Diana mount a try on another gun that I know does not have droop problems.

[HectorMedina]

And here I am 6 years later, with several FT wins and placings under the belt using a 54 and the ZR mount. LOL!

Of course, YMMV.

Keep well and shoot straight!





HM

[phoebeisis]

Wow

This thread still "working" lotta good info

I got a "Hectorized"  ZR mount almost 6 years ago-mid 2016.  It works GREAT

I have switched it onto different rifles-several times-no problems.

It has been on the .22  460 -a scope killer-and it did not kill any of the scoped-a big-but CHEAP- $45 BSA -enormous to me 30mm tube  4x16 with 44mm objective

Did not hurt it-despite the scope being cheap-

I t also was on  hw97 k with same BSA or maybe Centerpoint scope-same story BIG cheap scope-worked fine-did not break it

I finally put it on my TX200 .177 with a Nikon 3x9 40 "normal sized scope" works fine.20 YEARS AGO the scope was $200-not sure why it was so pricy-not fancy

no parallax adj. not huge-but nice clear optics-MADE IN JAPAN-but the ZR protects the most expensive scope-simple-

I was always intending to mate it to the nikon-but tested it with a scope killer rifle-460-  and with cheaper scopes-did not kill them-so mated it with the NIKON

always my intention

So the mount holds zero-and the scoped don't break-

Years ago I managed to strip a hole in a regular ZR mount-should have used torque wrench-so it just has 2 mounting screws working

it is on a Daisy 880 with a cheap scope-huge scope-works fine despite the stripped mounting hole-no recoil to speak of of course-

but the extra weight of scope mount-make the Daisy "feel better"

I might get another Hectorized mount-put it on the HW77K which has open sights TOO LOW-COMB TOO HIGH- so maybe I will scope it-I like that rifle

but it is pretty annoying to have a comb too high-

Diana has no problem with open sights- scopes-

but weihrauch for some reason tried to split the difference too fine -have it optimized for open sights and scopes

AND IT WAS A CLEAN MISS!

Thanks

Charlie

[dtdtdtdt]

I have ZR mounts on both my Diana 54s.  Said this many times on this site.  They hold zero, don't come loose, and do exactly what they said they would.  Accuracy is excellent. repeatability is excellent.  Droop compensation was good.  No awkward problems getting zeros.

Granted both mine on the guns are Hector tuned but I recommended the OEM versions to several who report great results. One was the 1" version (early) two are the later version with the 30mm/1" inserts. 

I wonder what I have done different than those who report problems?  One thing for sure, I bought real ones  not the knock-offs. I haven't done anything fancy on mounting beyond using recommended torques - accurately measured!

This string of notes goes WAY back... What is current experience? 

[dtdtdtdt]

Wow



Years ago I managed to strip a hole in a regular ZR mount-should have used torque wrench-so it just has 2 mounting screws working

it is on a Daisy 880 with a cheap scope-huge scope-works fine despite the stripped mounting hole-no recoil to speak of of course-

but the extra weight of scope mount-make the Daisy "feel better"



Thanks

Charlie

Charlie:  If you want to fix your ZR with the stripped hole.  Go to Harbor Freight and buy a cheap set of taps and drills for the metric sizes.  Pick the next size up from your ZR's screw.  Drill the stripped hole out and re-tap it.  Put in the new screw size and go on with your life.  If you want to be tricky do all the screws and use the larger screw on all of them!  That way you won't confuse yourself at a later time!!!    If you prefer, you can use American thread sizes instead.  Nothing sacred!!!

I've done this with bases more than once.  No problems!!!

[dmflyer]

For a redneck mount test could you mount a scope that no longer holds zero on a springer but still works on a PPC or co2 gun? If it held after remounting in the ZR it would be good enough I would think, Richard

[phoebeisis]

dtdtdt

Thanks for the tip

I already have taps-bought cheap ones-as set-HARBOR FREIGHT of course


Thanks

Charlie

[Bayman]

All you guys are trying to polish a $)((#. Just get a Sportsmatch Dampa mount. I'm running a 100 dollar Hawke Vantage on a 19 fpe R1 without issues. I have no idea idea why people try to reinvent the wheel.

[ssbn617]

Ron,
The harsh recoil of the 54 is why. On anything else use the Dampa.

[Bayman]

Ron,
The harsh recoil of the 54 is why. On anything else use the Dampa.

Are you saying that the 54 has too much recoil for the Dampa mount? I ask because l'm not familiar with the 54.

[ssbn617]

Yes due to its own recoiled action. It is like a Howitzer, the stock doesn’t move at all while the sanction slide back and forth.

[mpbby]

Dampening mounts and actual effectiveness?

There are members here that, with their super skills and equipment, could help a LOT all of us ..

Maybe you can help with the resurrection of this thread

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=182332.0

Some super skilled members

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=176445.0

[JuryRigger]

Old thread, not sure I understand where it's going but I can say that for the first time I'm not experiencing a sliding scope on my 350 now that I have a ZR mount; that is without cranking down on scope ring screws like an ape...
Since Hector accurized it; I have yet to find any difference in repeatability-put 4 or 5 (didn't pay enough attention) into a ragged hole when zeroing my scope at 30 yards today...
So, yes-the Diana ZR mount works-at least a tuned one does by my personal experience.
Jesse

[phoebeisis]

Oh

I did notice that you have to be careful to not over tighten the scope ring mounts-you have to tighten them in sequence-and stop "before"

it feels tight "enough"

If you overtighten ANYTHING it will bind-won't smoothly slide-and if it binds it won't work of course

If you don't have a "inch pound" torque wrench (cheap lazy like me) UNDER TIGHTEN it-stop before your well calibrated hand says stop-so what if the scope moves-

mark the screws- dimple or scratch them- reset the scope-tighten just a little- oh the base screws will strip-yeah aia stripped one on my NOT HECTOR MOUNT-so I was

really careful with the HECTORIZED mount- 6 years ago-has worked great on 3 different guns   Diana 460 .22    HW97K  .22   TX200 .177  three different scopes\

Two of the scopes were CHEAP-$45 or so-Centerpoint  or BSA- and one was huge 30mm tube 44mm large objective  3-12 or 4x16   forget exactly-now it holds the "Normal

sized" Nikon 3x9  1" which was pricy $220 or so-25-30 years ago-no idea why so expensive-made in japan-maybe that is why? nice clear picture-not horrendously heavy

like the other scopes

Charlie

[Nitrocrushr]

I have two of Hector Medina’s accurized ZR mounts and they have worked flawlessly.

Steve