Under Lever's - Crosman wants your input

[shady816]

well they all just sumed it up a good nitro piston in the 850-950 range with a good weaver picatinny rail with an easy loading port unlike the cfx and a underlever lock-up that is not incorperated into a muzzle break since we like to install our own strippers breaks and what not. and a real steel barrel no liners please just can not get into the poly barrels. .22 is great

[roadchoad]

The only thing I dislike about break barrels is just that - the barrel moves.  I prefer a fixed barrel for accuracy.

How about an under lever that looks like a mannlicher stock?

[Ddgrego]

All good ideas shown here.I like the ones that you can load then cock or vise versa.I have some that you can cock and then load which is a nice feature,saves the fingers if something goes wrong.Nice strong barrel with 8 lands like German guns for instance.Mounts already on them for sling or bi-pod.Wood stock is good and if synthetic how about a solid butt to reduce noise and vibration or something inside butt for that purpose.Weaver rail for scope so it wont slip.If it does have sights how about Hi Viz  or tru glow like sights with longer element for more light.A true two stage trigger made of a metal alloy of some kind.Have the barrel fixed and load like a bolt action so barrel cant move.Nitro piston is good but im still a die hard springer fan.I agree also not to got for high fps but a true 900 to 950 for better accuracy.One more thing--build them in U.S.A!! The whole gun!

[r1derbike]

I would sell my remaining Gamo .177 CFX (gave the .22 CFX to my dad), to get one.

Please, please don't go el cheapo on the trigger.  I know it would be a shooter.  Carbine, or just a bit larger.  Powerful (think magnum) as my TF-89, with a smooth shooting cycle (nitro piston).

Make the loading port accessible.  The Discovery port is a real pain, even with high mounts.

Nice stock, fit and finish, and this may be too much to ask, but made in America, mostly?

.22 cal. would look nice in my cabinet.

Charles

[roadchoad]

Yes, build it in the US, forgot that!

[LAalex]

How about a .20 cal.?  Peep option?  I agree with the above post about separating yourself and doing something different.

Scotty

[newguyontheblock (Nathan)]

I'm going to have to agree with this last point, .20 cal.  Along with made in the USA.

in all seriousness. I'm not picky on stock type or look. it can be bright pink aslong as it fits me well. (dont laugh please) 6'2" 140, i have long arms, a disco stock is quite short for me.  but it may be perfect for most people so i'll take what i can get. 

My disco loading port not worthy, untill i learned to just roll the pellet along the "tray" and it will fall perfectly into the chamber.... then i got magazines lol. But for an underlever, a QUICKLY and let me re-emphasize QUICKLY reloadable magazine would be sick

I'm kinda dumb in the underlever market but is it possible to make it be a lever action? or would that require to much effort?

just asking lol

oh well just my opinion,

Nathan

[VINNY]

Thank you for asking for our oppinions!

An underlever springer, iron sights but scopeable,about the size of the Quest,ambi dark wood stock,available in .177 and .22. 750-950 fps. GRT III compatible.Easier to load than the CFX, [although you get used to it.]

Also available with synthetic and camo stocks.

Possible different power ranges.

[Fisherdude]

I would be down for an underlever.  .22 cal with a nitrogen pistion.   I want something in the 750 - 800 fps range.  Don't copy the CFX breech.  Something that is competitive with the TX 200/ HW97,  better quality and 1 lb lighter than the TF87.

[JonnyReb]

 I'd be more for a side lever    But if you make whatever it is in the U.S., i'll buy one. J

[gene_sc]

Skip, thank the Crosman folks again for asking our thoughts on the go no go underlever... So far Crosman has been hitting the nail on the head as far as new air guns and technology goes.

If I am not mistaken you will be completing with Air Arms TX and PS Unilever's as well as the HW 77-97.  I own them all and they are incredibly accurate and shoulder very well.

With that said I think there is enough room in my coral for another underlever... With guys like Lloyd working with you I am sure you will come up with another winner..

One thought is if you plan on producing these pleas offer a Monte Carlo wood stock....

Weight is a factor if folks use them for hunting but as a bench shooter the weight makes no difference. Loading port needs to be ergonomic. The HW 77-97 loading port is much easier to load than the Air Arms TX and PS. Triggers on all the above mentioned underlevers are very nice.

Thanks again for letting us voice our thoughts. I am sure if Crosman makes an underlever or sidelever it will be a winner.

[Onebaddj]

Thank you for asking! Im impressed that a manufacturer is asking real end users about what they would like.

My ideal under lever is my RWS 470 th. There is nothing i would change about that gun. If you could make one similar for a few $100 less im sure people would bite.

Thanks again for asking.

[Bullit]

Thanks for asking Chip!!!!!

 .177 & .22  / ambidextrious / Magnum rated powerplant (True 1,000fps) WITH option to a standard (True 900-1000fps) powerplant for .177 customers.

Standard Stock, synthetic is fine.  I think designing it with the grace of the HWs would be nice, but I'm Most interested in powerplant, barrel, trigger, and safety's quality.  Would like it to weigh less than 8 pounds to carry.
No rotary breech!  

Again Chip...THANX FOR ASKING

[Toolmaker]

 Thanks for asking!

 Ambidextrous, ambidextrous, ambidextrous! I'm a lefty (most of the time) and nothing turns me away more than a right hand only stock.

[mlrs_27m]

No bear trap.

[uncle paulie]

Certainly a loaded question! As for me, I'd prefer something new to be a side lever, as it could be cocked when punching paper without lifting it from the rest. I have an XL1100 and a .25 barrel for it also. As I've gone through 3 of these to find the "one", here are a just a couple of things I would like to see in anything new coming from Crosman.

1) Seriously accurate advertised fps numbers.(real world numbers, with CPHP's which are readily available to most, and therefore usable as a reliable benchmark)
2) Power over 25fpe.
3) Upgraded barrels, perhaps choked, which are consistently accurate.
4) Upgraded triggers.  
5) Iron sight "option"
6) Lighter weight, 8 lbs. w/out scope.
7) made in the USA with US parts.

These might be too much to ask for, but If they were to show up at a dealer near me, it would definitely be worth any premium charged!  

We're glad you folks at Crosman are asking and listening. That's why you guys are almost as great as the GTA!!!  

pv

[bradyman1]

.22 cal, - nitro piston, over 700 fps, and a multi-shot magazine that's indexed when the level is actuated. - BTW, - thanks for asking, ...

This is a great idea. I also think the carbine size would be great. Removable open sights would make it one perfect rifle! Cost would need to be reasonable also. But Crosman never fails on that front.

[rsterne]

I'm reading these comments and find them very interesting.... Many people are asking for magnum power in a light weight gun.... So far, in Springers, that combination has been basically impossible to achieve.... certainly if one factors in a smooth shot cycle....

Since Crosman are asking us to blue-sky here.... then perhaps combining these requests is not that unreasonable.... Perhaps with modern technology, Crosman can indeed combine those ideals into one platform.... I guess time will tell....

Bob

[3ants]

also make it shoot chps well.

[Jman]

I seriously do not care if it is made in china. Your gonna get the same gun for less if it's made over there. If it shot a true 20 FPE with cphp's, looked nice, and had weaver rails, I'd be all in!!!