Author Topic: Under Lever's - Crosman wants your input (Read 46984 times))

Doubletough · « **on:** March 25, 2011, 05:29:03 PM »

I'm not sayin' we are or we aren't, but we want to know your thoughts on under lever break barrel guns. What do you like, dislike, feature wish list....what would be your ideal under lever?

We're listening.

Muppit · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2011, 05:41:38 PM »

i would love a crosman under lever one with open sights and a weaver scope mount nitro piston gun with a all weather summit style stock sling mounts that shoots 1000fps in either .22 or .177 cal i like the .177 cal

rsterne · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2011, 05:41:54 PM »

Under 500 fps version for Canada for a start.... *grin*....

Bob

Mark 611 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2011, 05:47:11 PM »

How bout a 22cal that shoots in the 800 to 850fps range thats about 7.5 to 8.5lbs thats ambi so everybody can enjoy the rifle with a similar set up like an HW97 or an AA Pro Sport!

bart the fart · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2011, 05:52:00 PM »

Quote from: Mark 611 on March 25, 2011, 05:47:11 PM

How bout a 22cal that shoots in the 800 to 850fps range thats about 7.5 to 8.5lbs thats ambi so everybody can enjoy the rifle with a similar set up like an HW97 or an AA Pro Sport!

roger that

....and when brainstorming...think carbine.cant keep a good carbine down

..hehehe thanks Bart

Mark 611 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2011, 05:55:24 PM »

I agree Bart thanks for adding what I forgot!

rsterne · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2011, 05:55:37 PM »

I wasn't being a jerk with the above comment about Canada.... but Crosman does seem to be rather ignoring us north of the border....

Back to your question.... From what I have seen, Springers are at their best in the 12-16 FPE zone.... with swept volumes in the 50-60 cc range.... That puts you about 850-900 fps in .177 cal with 7.9 gr. pellets.... and about 700-750 fps in .22 cal with 14.3 gr. pellets.... Add more power, and the gun tends to get cranky to shoot and heavy.... Guns in that range end up being sweet and accurate.... It would be nice to keep the weight to about 7-7.5 lbs without scope.... I hate lugging around scoped guns over 9 lbs....

Bob

CitySniper · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2011, 06:01:14 PM »

Something like the Gamo CFX....But with a better lifespan. The breech seal needs to last, and a large breech for big hands/fingers.

-Compact, Light, Very Accurate.

-Power....really shouldn't be the goal, smooth and accurate is what I would want. 14-15fpe is good.

-Short, Carbine... entire gun No longer than 38-39", Barrel 15"

nateious · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2011, 06:12:04 PM »

+1 to this, I'm used to it but all my friends complain about loading when they use my CFX

Quote from: CitySniper on March 25, 2011, 06:01:14 PM

Something like the Gamo CFX....But with a better lifespan. The breech seal needs to last, and a large breech for big hands/fingers.

3ants · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2011, 06:18:03 PM »

needs gas ram 850-950 fps 22 cal.

Pete · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2011, 06:23:57 PM »

Hi... if you do go down the underlever road.
It has to be easy to load...Don't even consider a CFX style loading port.
Take a good look at the Hatsan bolt loading port... Or how about
a mag like the Theoben SLR underlever or the older Diana 300R underlever.
Recoiless like the Diana 54/56... light weight..affordable..

build something that stands apart from the crowd..instead of putting yer own spin
on on whats already out there....

well you asked...

PS..wish more company's would ask for input from the customer's..

North Pack · « **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2011, 06:42:30 PM »

.22 cal, - nitro piston, over 700 fps, and a multi-shot magazine that's indexed when the level is actuated. - BTW, - thanks for asking, ...

Mouse · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2011, 06:44:19 PM »

I would be in for a decent underlever

oldpink · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2011, 06:48:47 PM »

I'm with the others on the idea of a Nitro Piston underlever of manageable weight and handling ability with integral Weaver/Picatinny rail.
I would also add that it should be in the same power category as the NPSS, as well as of (crossing fingers) of U.S. manufacture.

northern lights · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2011, 06:50:31 PM »

I would love to a under lever that shot a 7.9 at 750 fps or 22cal at 600 fps with good open sites an weaver rail keep the gun under 7lbs an no longer then 40 inches. an loading port thats easy to use. where are the gun,s that shoot 750 fps very gun made is a 1000fps claimed an a crossman r-7 would sell like hot cakes.

yote300wsm · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2011, 06:58:50 PM »

Quote from: oldpink on March 25, 2011, 06:48:47 PM

I'm with the others on the idea of a Nitro Piston underlever of manageable weight and handling ability with integral Weaver/Picatinny rail.
I would also add that it should be in the same power category as the NPSS, as well as of (crossing fingers) of U.S. manufacture.

Also both wood and syn Summit style stock. All metal removeable front and rear sights. Loading port for R or Left hand.
P.S. NO THUMB-HOLE STOCK!

Brutuz · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2011, 06:59:08 PM »

http://www.china-bam.com/beining/html/prs1/t171-265/c410.html

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/09/bam-b40-part-1-a-first-look/
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/09/bam-b40-part-2-power/
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/10/bam-b40-part-3-accuracy/

Synthetic stock like the http://www.retaygun.com/UDetay.aspx?ID=70
Combo scope rail like the Hatsan's have http://hatsan.com.tr/dominator_200w.asp
Open sights
Shroud should be light weight
.177 .22 and .25 cal

The all-new Crosman Brutuz

Mark 611 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2011, 07:00:23 PM »

I might add that no matter what Crosman decides to do on a build of an underlever Please put a good fully adjustable trigger in it theirs nothing worse than having a nice gun with a POS trigger in it!

Jman · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2011, 07:36:42 PM »

A good trigger would up the price, just make it acceptable for the GRT3. Maybe a Nitro piston underlever with a shrouded barrel....Ive always wanted an underlever, but most of the cheaper ones dont appeal to me. To get my vote a gun has to look good ontop of shooting well, and be affordable under $300. Something like the trail series...

Jman · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2011, 07:39:39 PM »

Make open sights removable like the RWS 350 if you add them in. If they were permanent it would really turn some off!

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