Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1



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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2016, 09:29:56 AM »
LOL
Sorry for the delays, with the great weather this weekend I had a list of things to do outside. I walked past it sitting on my bench a few times and wanted to dive back in.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2016, 12:55:11 PM »
how did you guys get the plastic end off, the part that holds the safety lever? I've got the lever out and the large rear pin out but can't see a way to pry that plastic end off so I can put it in a compressor.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2016, 01:14:22 PM »
Rear piece comes off with the spring.
Remove the pin holding the trigger.  There is an allen head screw under the trigger that must be removed before removing the 2nd pin holding the spring.

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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2016, 02:56:57 PM »
OK, thanks. I was doing it backwards, taking the pins out before the set screw until I had it in a compressor. I'll try it later. Thanks again

edit: got it. I'll watch for more progress from everyone here and hopefully figure out which new seals to order from that other thread.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2016, 09:25:07 PM »
Found the correct seal:  HAT95

http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251485/10055863.htm

Installed today and it fits well.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2016, 07:32:17 PM »
Are the butt pads glued and screwed onto these rifles?  I took the screws out of mine to refinish the stock and the pad won't budge.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2016, 10:35:19 PM »
Got my 1100 put back together today.  The tune definitely improved some things, most noticeable is the trigger is much smoother now and not as hard to pull.  I worked to polish it up and removed all the old/hard lube while I had it out.

Only got to shoot a few pellets today, but seems to be shooting consistently.  I'll finish zeroing it tomorrow and post some pics of my groups.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2017, 08:48:21 AM »
Was there a Part 2 posted? I've been searching and can't find anything here in the China Gate.

I have a used one of these heading my way and any more tuning info would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2017, 09:03:35 AM »
LOL
Sorry...life got in the way. The Winchester is still disassembled in my shop. And I'm packing my shop in prep for my move. This is one I'm needing to get time to get back on the bench as soon as my new shop is up and functioning. Sorry for the delays but it will be a while yet.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2017, 09:08:01 AM »
Was there a Part 2 posted? I've been searching and can't find anything here in the China Gate.

I have a used one of these heading my way and any more tuning info would be appreciated.

Thanks.
I have one and have done some tuning on it. Not too difficult to disassemble, but the trigger assembly can be a little difficult until you figure it out. I think I remember a YouTube on the 1100. I'll try to find it. PM me if you have any specific questions.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2017, 05:28:11 PM »
Was there a Part 2 posted? I've been searching and can't find anything here in the China Gate.

I have a used one of these heading my way and any more tuning info would be appreciated.

Thanks.
I have one and have done some tuning on it. Not too difficult to disassemble, but the trigger assembly can be a little difficult until you figure it out. I think I remember a YouTube on the 1100. I'll try to find it. PM me if you have any specific questions.

Keith, how does this compare to a Hatsan 95? Thank you.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2017, 05:39:49 PM »
I've never seen a Hatsan 95, so I can't say for sure, but the 1100s does use the HAT95 seal.
Search Winchester 1100s in the China gate and you will find some rebuild info.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2017, 05:59:22 PM »
This has been a GREAT read !     My Thank You's to ALL Here !   I'll be Patently waiting for Part II.    Regards - Tom
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2017, 08:39:43 PM »

I have one and have done some tuning on it. Not too difficult to disassemble, but the trigger assembly can be a little difficult until you figure it out. I think I remember a YouTube on the 1100. I'll try to find it. PM me if you have any specific questions.

Thanks. I'd like to see that video. I found a few videos on Youtube but nothing I found very informative.

It'll be a week or so before I get the rifle and get around to tearing it down. I'll post my findings.

ezman604 - You mean I'm not the only one with a pile of unfinished projects? Lol

BTW, do you guys want me to post my stuff here, or start a new thread?
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2017, 10:18:55 PM »
Let's press onward. If anyone has good info on the Winchester 1100....let's keep the thread alive. I'll get back to mine shortly...I hope.
And yep, not the only one with several irons in the fire I see.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2017, 10:47:31 PM »
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Thanks. I'd like to see that video. I found a few videos on Youtube but nothing I found very informative.

I couldn't find the video yet, but here is a link to a Daisy Tear-Down Guide that will at least give you an idea of what you will see when you open it up.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/npywon3u86ndmb3/RSE%20-%20Daisy%20tear-down%20guide.pdf?dl=0

Hope it helps.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2017, 12:25:32 AM »
Thanks.

So the Winchester 1100 is a Chinese copy of the Turkish Daisy 1000?

Edit: Comparing pics on this thread to those in the linked pdf shows a lot of differences. 
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2017, 12:50:29 AM »
I forgot, what caliber and around what FPE level are these? Thank you.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2017, 06:35:34 AM »
.177 and I think rated at 1100fps with light pellets.
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Re: Winchester 1100 from Sportsman's Guide Part 1
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2017, 09:54:26 AM »
1100fps is an advertising ploy. You don't want to shoot light (PBA) rounds in a springer. Especially a higher power model. It will shake it to death, shorten the life of the main spring and wear the piston seal out in no time. Plus there will be very poor consistent accuracy over 10 yards. A more reasonable expectation is in the range of 900-950fps with standard weight (7-9gr) ammo. And yep, the contract went to China from Turkey. Daisy/Winchester/Powerline has gone around the world during their lifetime. They have been made in Germany, Spain, Turkey and now China. I guess there's still hope they could eventually come full circle and be made at home. We can hope so anyway.
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Revelation 760 PumpMaster (Vintage 1967)
Powerline 1000S .177 (semi-tuned by me & innards by kiwi Pete)
Benjamin Super Streak .177/.22 (converted to NP & w/GRT-III)
Weihrauch HW97K .177
Benjamin Trail NP XL1100 (home tuned by muwah with Tuna trigger)
Stoeger X-20 RAMmed by Gene and Tuna trigger
Winchester 1000SX .177 (semi-tuned by muwah)
Winchester 1000B RAMmed by Gene
Crosman 1377 "Goldfinger"
Disco .22 Multi-Shot Custom

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