Do You Need More Power .

[MRT949]

Are you ok with Factory air guns .
For general shooting . 
Or want MORE POWER .
To see things Explode ?

[Back_Roads]

 All of the above, Have a rifle for every occasion

[Acapulco]

Remember:  Power= Money

[DOKF]

Energy at target is good.  A good satisfying thwack is what I need.

[NickB79]

All of my guns are 12-18 fpe.  If I want more power, I just break out the .22 rimfires.

[Springrrrr]

Generally, but not always, it is an inverse proportion.  As power increases in a spring gun at least, accuracy often (but not always) decreases.  I know there are some nice powerhouses out there that are quite accurate.

I run my .177 guns between 12.75 and 14 FPE.

The .177 RWS48 was putting out over 16 FPE but it was all over the place until I dropped it down to 12 FPE and got it back to a one holler again.

A well placed shot on a squirrel that is wrecking my wife's stuff with any of the three guns does the job nicely.

[Korak-again]

All of my guns are 12-18 fpe.  If I want more power, I just break out the .22 rimfires.

  Same here. I just installed a Vortek docile spring in my 34P PC.  Should be around 12fpe. I haven't had a chance to chrono yet.

[robertr]

 I was ok with both my rifles at factory power, I put a Vortek kit in my 350, about the same power just smoother. I like power but has to be accurate.

[bantam5s]

With a few of my airguns I wouldn't mind more power ( but I don't really have the skill to increase it, and would rather spend the money on ammo or new gun ) so I just learn to appreciate my guns for what they are. Plus  my  stock blue streak is all the power I really need so that helps.

[nced]

Are you ok with Factory air guns .
For general shooting . 
Or want MORE POWER .
To see things Explode ?

The .177 HW95 I bought last June shot 7.9 grain pellets at 880fps in factory twang mode so I REDUCED the power to shoot the same pellet at 850fps. At the lower power level the gun cocks easier, has a nicer shot cycle, is easier to shoot accurately, and is more friendly to the optics!

Funny thing is that the extra drop of a 820fps CPL vs a 900fps CPL at 50 yards using a 30 yard zero with my HW95 is less than 1"!

LOL......IF I could double my HW95 or R9 power from 12.5fpe to 25fpe it wouldn't add an extra 10 yards to my "effective range" under field conditions shooting those lead badminton birdies called pellets! Years ago I tuned my .177 R9 to shoot CPLs at 960fps using an oring sealed piston cap and I shot a few 30 yard groups. Then I re-tuned the gun to shoot my normal tune AT THAT TIME  which was CPLs at 910fps and I shot a few more 30 yard groups. After the lead dust settled EVERY 910fps group was tighter than the 960fps groups! A couple decades ago when I did this little test I only had duplex reticled scopes and I found that if I tuned the R9 to shoot CPLs at 910fps and zero the gun at 30 yards I could hold "point blank" on a target from 16 yards to 30 yards. At both 10 yards and 50 yards I could aim with the tip of the lower duplex post on the target and then at the intermediate distances the hold was somewhere between the crosshair and tip of the lower  post. I've been using mil dot reticled scopes for a while now so I don't need to use such a stiff tune anymore since I now have a lot more "aiming points" on the reticle. Here is the reticle of the Optisan Viper scope I'm currently using........
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Anywhoo....when new to airguns I wanted "MO POWER"  and put up with harsh shooting jumpy springers for years........then I learned that "mo ain't necessarily bettah" and I've been preferring a softer tune in later years!

[MRT949]

Found that out shooting Hunters pistol silhouette . Didn't need  all that 44 mag power .Went to .22Lr and air pistol to have as much fun if not more .You are shooting against your self .You can't eat trophies .

[vestlenning]

Are you ok with Factory air guns .
For general shooting . 
Or want MORE POWER .
To see things Explode ?

Power is almost at the bottom of my list.

[seitg74]

I purchased a very cheap refurbished Ruger Black Hawk Elite.  I installed a 12 lb docile spring, new seal, moly, heavy tar, etc.  After it has settled down (think I used too much lube) it is way smoother and enjoyable to shoot than before.  No twang, little recoil, and trigger is pretty good.  My most shot break barrel with the XS-12 being close behind.  I love it but IMO it is ugly as H-E-double hockey sticks and the balance is a little off being front heavy.  I like it so much that I'm looking to purchase a Walther Terrus or HW 50s to be my go to paper/light critter class. 

[Korak-again]

  The one gun I had that was not powerful enough for me was my HW30s.  I found the delay between trigger pull and target strike annoying.
  For me, the 10-14 fpe is about right.

[stonykill]

 
  For me, the 10-14 fpe is about right.

  With the exception of my 2 Hatsans all my other AG's fall in that range. And are perfect small game hunting weapons. The Hatsans have more power if I crave it, and shoot as well as the lower power guns. But more often than not, 10 to 12 FPE even is perfect on small game. I pump  few more pumps if I need more power.

[n1as]

The fascination with more power in a springer is a first indication of a newbie. I started there but eventually learned my enjoyment was greater with less power and more accuracy. When I went PCP I figured out that power meant pumping. I dialed my PCPs down to less than 12 fpe for higher shot count.

Oh and since most of my shooting is in a barn I need to limit my power to avoid damage to buildings.

[K.O.]

Long distance = power helps, heavy lead going 900-950 fps  beats light lead at the same speed for wind drift and has a flatter trajectory...

20-30 yards ~20 fpe is nice... if there is any wind at all

close range heck even 5 fpe works on a clam day for paper...

it all depends on what you are trying to do...

[RedFeather]

Here's a few words of wisdom from the powder burner side to which an airgunner can easily relate.

Too soon we grow old, too late we get smart. Velocity increases at the muzzle are a very poor substitute for stalking within sure killing range and carefully picking your shots. Focusing on shot placement and using bullets well suited for a particular species means so very, very much more. It means longer equipment life, more fun at the range, more success in the field, and a more pleasant shooting experience across the board.

That "little" 24 sure is easier all-round than my RX1.

[K.O.]

Here's a few words of wisdom from the powder burner side to which an airgunner can easily relate.

Too soon we grow old, too late we get smart. Velocity increases at the muzzle are a very poor substitute for stalking within sure killing range and carefully picking your shots. Focusing on shot placement and using bullets well suited for a particular species means so very, very much more. It means longer equipment life, more fun at the range, more success in the field, and a more pleasant shooting experience across the board.

That "little" 24 sure is easier all-round than my RX1.

Sorry but to me that is Hogwash of a recreational hunter on the powder burner side and if a springer/np because of the limits of the power plant the more fpe past about 20 fpe...

50 fpe will give  that sure shot at 30-50 yards in less  than perfect conditions while 12 fpe in those same conditions you have to be within 15 or so...

It does not matter your SKILL STALKING if you are subsistence hunting it is about getting the job done...

So a poor substitute  heck NO... in certain environments and certain prey that fpe/longer range is a big BLESSING... 

Have you ever tried to stalk Prong horn or even Big horn (PB): (Air) or Himalayan  Snowcock or even Chukar in open rocky areas...

Me I tend to think of hunting as a way to eat and did for years wander the Sierras and Nevada desert with a 17fpe air rifle and many times I wished for something that had the power of my .25 Mrod...

Like I said it depends on what you are trying to accomplish and your perspective... Jmho...

[mista meener]

Here's a few words of wisdom from the powder burner side to which an airgunner can easily relate.

Too soon we grow old, too late we get smart. Velocity increases at the muzzle are a very poor substitute for stalking within sure killing range and carefully picking your shots. Focusing on shot placement and using bullets well suited for a particular species means so very, very much more. It means longer equipment life, more fun at the range, more success in the field, and a more pleasant shooting experience across the board.

That "little" 24 sure is easier all-round than my RX1.

Sorry but to me that is Hogwash of a recreational hunter on the powder burner side and if a springer/np because of the limits of the power plant the more fpe past about 20 fpe...

50 fpe will give  that sure shot at 30-50 yards in less  than perfect conditions while 12 fpe in those same conditions you have to be within 15 or so...

It does not matter your SKILL STALKING if you are subsistence hunting it is about getting the job done...

So a poor substitute  heck NO... in certain environments and certain prey that fpe/longer range is a big BLESSING... 

Have you ever tried to stalk Prong horn or even Big horn (PB): (Air) or Himalayan  Snowcock or even Chukar in open rocky areas...

Me I tend to think of hunting as a way to eat and did for years wander the Sierras and Nevada desert with a 17fpe air rifle and many times I wished for something that had the power of my .25 Mrod...

Like I said it depends on what you are trying to accomplish and your perspective... Jmho...

   you hunted for survival using an airgun?? were there no seasons for game?  you could have only shot very small game and to live 3-4 a day. and then you talk about hogwash