Author Topic: Adjustable scope rings for distance (Read 9714 times))

dunk50 · « **on:** February 09, 2016, 09:46:01 PM »

Need some advice on scope setting. I bought a set of Burris Signature zee rings. It came with 10+ AND 10- as well as a set of zero shims. Trying to set this scope up correctly one time. I installed them on a Vulcan .22 using a BSA 4X14-X44 FFL scope. Question is this. If I set scope up with zero inserts I am 10" low at 20 yards. If I put the 10+ and 10- in I can get it within 4" shooting low. That takes a full turn of the turrent to get it up to poa at only 20 yards. I want to use all of my scope settings for distance, I do not want to have to use much vertical adjustment just to get rifle to zero at pop. If I understand this correctly, that means I am off about a half miles at 100 yards. (at least 50 inches) I have also seen the FX No LIMIT rings that Ted likes so much. Does this make sense, meaning am I going in the right direction. Thanks for any input you have!

dunk50 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2016, 11:32:01 PM »

I should have mentioned I have a 30 mm scope tube. I am told that Burris makes many inserts for the 1" but only the 10's and 0" for the 30 mm!!

bubba zanetti · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2016, 06:21:16 AM »

Yep, Burris, but also:

Sun Optics and FX No Limits rings.

The Sun Optics work but are a pain to adjust IMO. The FX rings are expensive but very, very nice. I have them on my BAM-50.

BZ

UncleDevo · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2016, 10:35:26 AM »

FX No Limits scope rings are worth what they cost. Before I had them I was using Kentucky elevation at 337 yards. Using them I'm on target at 547 yards.

rws45user · « **Reply #4 on:** February 13, 2016, 09:16:44 AM »

don't bother with adjustable rings like the fx rings . Get the HHA dial adjustable scope mount . You can dial in your zero at 100 200 300 400 500yards and know where each zero is because there is a bar and you mark on the blank tape next to the bar. The fx rings don't have a way for you to know where your at and how to get back to that same zero . but with the dial you know where your zero is . I have a springer so I have the one they make for cross bows its cheaper and it doesn't matter that the dial is on the right side . if you think your bolt action won't get in the way you can use the cheaper cross bow HHA like this one http://www.hhasports.com/pages/crossbow/ I have seen this on on ebay for 150.00. Its solid with no movement at all. the point of impact does not change . I have had this on my hatsan 125 22 cal sniper springer for a year now and I really like it . You can make marks on the blank tape in 1 yard increments if you want to from as close as your scope will let you till you run out of dial. I'm out to 100 yards and the dial is just turned a small amount. If you put your scopes u/d cross hair so they are optically centered when you set your zero on the dial at say 300 yards your your not adjusting the turrets. your looking at the target through the lens with the tube straight on so you set a better sight picture ,so you can hit what your aiming at . If your not planning on moving your tilt once you have it set then the fx rings are great . but if your planning on using the gun for close up like 10 yards and long distance like 500 yards and your going back and forth the get the HAA . I don't know how far I can turn the dial and still set a zero with my 22 cal 950 fps gun using a 14.5 pellet but I will let you know if you to find out . I'm working on finding out just how far I can get a zero with the dial and not adjust the scope at all . If your 10 inches low at 20 yards you should get the weaver 20 moa base this will let your scope be at your optical center and be close to dead on at 20 yards . What this does is it angles your scope down closer to where your pellet is hitting so you don't have to adjust your turrets as much to get your cross hairs there . It okay if when you put the 20 mao on and your pellet is hitting higher on your cross hair at 20 yards your not using that direction for distance anyways and it will lit you shoot farther distances with your scope . But believe me with the hha mounted and your pellet is hitting low you don't adjust your scope at all you just turn the dial down a little and mark it on the tape where the cross hair is dead on at 20 yards. But the weaver 20 mao is a cheaper way to go if your not planning on shooting much over 100 yards .

bubba zanetti · « **Reply #5 on:** February 13, 2016, 10:17:36 AM »

Wow! That mount looks pretty trick RWS!

BZ

PlanB · « **Reply #6 on:** February 14, 2016, 10:17:23 PM »

sportsmatch aldo makes adjustable rings but after a small amount of looking, i think they are hard to get and no better than fx. i have a pair of fx and i like um.

William · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2016, 12:36:03 AM »

This is the cheapest I have found the HHA OL-FA Optimizer Horizon Firearm Scope Mount $135.47 Just be sure that it is what they say it is, I seen it most other online stores at 2 times the price here.

http://grabagun.com/hha-ol-fa-optimizer-horizon-firearm.html

William

bandg · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2016, 12:11:56 AM »

I have the windage and elevation adjustable Sportsmatch on a couple of springers and they are great once fiddle in correctly. They hold zero on my Diana 460 just fine. The Burris inserts should allow you to move impact more than that. If you need to raise point of impact maximally, make sure you have +10 rear lower -10 rear upper and -10 front lower +10 front upper.

PlanB · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2016, 12:14:15 PM »

seems to me that if you need windage adjustment on scope rings, something aint right?

bandg · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2016, 08:49:42 PM »

I had a Savage rifle with holes for bases visibly out of line with the barrel. Turns out they drill the receiver then heat treat and sometimes there would be enough shift to twist the action. One well known company specialized in straightening the actions to correct that apparently common problem. If it can happen with a firearm, it can certainly happen with an airgun. I guess returning the product is always an option but that rifle shot sub-MOA groups and I preferred having the issue corrected to keep that accuracy. The Sportsmatch adjustable mount can correct such problems nicely and as noted it holds zero very well on a Diana 460 so probably will function with most any air rifle.

PlanB · « **Reply #11 on:** February 18, 2016, 06:16:24 PM »

Quote from: bandg on February 17, 2016, 08:49:42 PM

I had a Savage rifle with holes for bases visibly out of line with the barrel. Turns out they drill the receiver then heat treat and sometimes there would be enough shift to twist the action. One well known company specialized in straightening the actions to correct that apparently common problem. If it can happen with a firearm, it can certainly happen with an airgun. I guess returning the product is always an option but that rifle shot sub-MOA groups and I preferred having the issue corrected to keep that accuracy. The Sportsmatch adjustable mount can correct such problems nicely and as noted it holds zero very well on a Diana 460 so probably will function with most any air rifle.

yep , something wasnt right but sub moa covers a multitude of sins!

UncleDevo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2016, 04:12:32 AM »

To those who knock the FX No Limits scope rings, they're fast and easy to use. No there are no markings on them. Nor are they needed. All you have to do is see the dirt fly and remember where that happened. Loosen the adjustment nuts with the allen wrench. Point the cross hairs to where you saw the miss. Tighten the adjustment nuts. Tighten them hard so they stay still. Then take your next shot. If it is still high or low, now use the turret on your scope and do the same thing. Don't bother calculating: just move the elevation and windage to where the miss was. Now adjust your aim: you will be on target. I rarely need more than 2 adjustments to get both elevation and windage. These work for me out to 547 yards so far. I need a spotter for 840 and 960 as so far the brush in between those distances has prevented me from seeing dust fly.

The HHA looks like a good device. Does it fit the rail on the AirForce Condor?

William · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2016, 12:52:02 AM »

I was looking on this site again (http://grabagun.com)and this scope mount for Airguns popped up,,, HHA OL-AG Optimizer Horizon Air Gun Scope Mount Link below. It was only $19.03 plus shipping. No Pic but it all reads in the Description the same Description as this one,
HHA OL-FA Optimizer Horizon Firearm Scope Mount. So I'm thinking it is the same.

So I bit the bullet for $30 including shipping, I just couldn't resist it at that price considering the Firearm one was $135.47 Plus shipping. I will let you all know how it turns out, after all it said it was 100% machined aluminum components •Lifetime Warranty •NOTE: Scope NOT included which is the same specs as the Firearm one.

I will let everyone know if I get burnt

Links: Airgun mount http://grabagun.com/hha-ol-ag-optimizer-horizon-air-gun.html
Links: Firearm mount http://grabagun.com/hha-ol-fa-optimizer-horizon-firearm.html

You look and tell me what you think, it all states it is basically made and adjusted all in the same way! No Pic Has me worried!

William

ancient1one · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2016, 07:14:47 AM »

Hope they are well made and look forward to your findings. I need adjustable rings to mount on a picatinny/weaver rail.

PlanB · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2016, 08:45:42 AM »

i just recieved my 2nd set of no limits. they sure dont seem like much for $80. but unless you need windage, they do work. Simple tool for my simple mind.
im interested in williams adj. mounts?

rsterne · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2016, 01:34:56 PM »

The description in that last link says 650-1200 fps, and 10-100 yards.... for both the airgun and firearm versions!....

Bob

William · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2016, 02:41:02 PM »

Quote from: rsterne on March 20, 2016, 01:34:56 PM

The description in that last link says 650-1200 fps, and 10-100 yards.... for both the airgun and firearm versions!....

Bob

It makes me wonder if I am going to get what they are describing of just an adjustment wheel for the firearm one, I also see no mention of this style on the Manufacture web site.

I did call and talked to someone at Graba Gun and they assured me that if it was not the item in how it is worded that they would refund all of my money. Although it comes from another seller or warehouse he did agree that it should be the same thing as the Firearm mount only designed for Airguns.

I really hope it is what they say in the description and made of solid aluminum.

It has shipped and should be here mid to end of the week coming, it says Thursday but we will see.

Hoping for a good deal..

William

Charles Outdoors · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:43:18 PM »

I had seen this mount for my crossbow and was planning on getting one to try on my airguns. At that price I took a chance and ordered one also since there were only 2 left it stock.

PlanB · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2016, 08:22:36 PM »

i saw that Craymar, if ididnt have no limits on the way i would have tried it too.

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Adjustable scope rings for distance

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