1065 yds-Longest Distance Ever, To Hit Target, Air Powered-.257 Video

[QVTom]

Holly cow Carl!  I have no superlatives or adjectives left.  Whats next?  Should I give you the coordinates of my range to see you can score some hits LOL.  I can phone them in for you

Tom

[Rocko]

That's pretty cool !  At the angle the scope is mounted, I'm surprised you could see thru the end of the barrel.

[Mr.bullet]

Hi Carl,  an impressive feat .

My congratulations , those shots .


in a few months ... we will put a target on the moon ....


ajajjaajaj

a hug
Pau

[MJP]

I was right, it was you who would broke the 1000yds line! Congrats on a that, no one can ever take that away from you, being the first to do so! What an accomplishment that is! Looking forward still to next season, where does the limit go.

Marko

[sixshootertexan]

Hard to tell with the music but it sounds like it's taking about 3 seconds from the sound of the report to the bullet hitting. Flight time must be around 5-6 seconds.

[rsterne]

Time of flight would be about 4.5 seconds.... likely a bit less....

Bob

[Joekrooz]

Simply...amazing.

[rifle50]

All I can say: Nicely done sir! Concrats.

Thank you very much and thanks for looking..............Carl

[rifle50]

This record will only stand as long as Carl allows it too. I am waiting to see the 1 mile shot.

Someone else will probably try, just human nature..........According to CHAIRGUN PRO, with the bullet I used, B.C. and FPS launched, the MAXIMUM RANGE of the bullet IS, 2989 yds, but that is at a launch angle of 35*....... Things as they were with this video were getting ridiculous.......275 MOA........With my F-Class rifles from 100 yd ZERO would require about 25 MOA and get that with scope alone.......So a mile would be so IMPRACTICAL I won't be the  one to try...

Thanks for commenting............Carl

[nervoustrigger]

Dang, those grapes are so high...they must be sour 

Fantastic job stretching the limits of air power!

[amb5500c]

I declare Carl the winner. Sorry but this is so impressive I couldn't think of anything else to say.
Richard

[Tater]

Amazing shooting Carl. Speechless here.

[jolobolo]

Wow just fantastic shooting there sir I have shared the video on a uk forum that I'm a member on so your fame is worldwide. The calculations you were doing made my head hurt we have no chance of ever coming close to shots like that with our power limits. So you need to keep on shooting and videoing and of course writing so we can look over your shoulder whilst you push the limits of our sport again well done sir.

[rifle50]

Congrats Carl, on a job exceptionally well done.

Appreciate the kind words......Thanks for looking..................Carl

[rifle50]

I'm still speechless from the 905 yd shooting now this. Well done sir.

Thanks for your thoughts and for commenting..........Carl

[rifle50]

I think I have a pretty good approximation of what is going on with the ballistics of your bullet at very long ranges.... IIRC, you measured the muzzle velocity and BC up close, but as the bullet slows down, the drag decreases, so the effective BC goes up.... I spent some time with the JBM Trajectory /Drift Calculator, and by assuming a zero of 100 yards and playing with the muzzle velocity and BC I got a pretty good match to your previous MOA corrections.... You said you needed 155 MOA at 700 yards, 186 at 800, ~217 at 900, and ~275 MOA at 1065 yards.... By using a velocity of 920 fps and a BC of 0.30, I got the following drops from a 100 yard zero.... and residual velocities....

700 yards = 153 MOA @ 669 fps
800 yards = 185 MOA @ 643 fps
900 yards = 222 MOA @ 618 fps
1065 yards = 279 MOA @ 581 fps

This is a pretty good match for what you found.... All that is happening is that the bullet is losing more velocity initially (corresponding to the 0.17 BC you found).... and then as it slows down as it goes down range the BC you need to predict the drop increases.... Beyond 700 yards, a BC of 0.30 is a good match, based on your drop figures.... This just shows that the bullet you are using isn't a very good match for the G1 model at those velocities, that's all.... It does give you a method to predict POI, however, once you have three known points on the trajectory.... Note the big increase in predicted drop past 900 yards, just as you experienced.... 

Incidentally.... this method predicts....

1200 yards = 333 MOA @ 553 fps
1400 yards = 423 MOA @ 516 fps
1600 yards = 524 MOA @ 484 fps
1800 yards = 640 MOA @ 457 fps
2000 yards = 773 MOA @ 437 fps

Bob

Thanks Bob for these numbers and all your thoughtful research.

One thing i learned earlier on checking my BC was, differing speeds across chrono and DIFFERENT BC by a LOT...I tested across 2 chrono's simultaneously at 50 yds and recorded temp, pressure, elevation etc at that time.......First time out with the 90 gr Near Velocity 995 fps, Far was 970 fps and BC calculated to .361 and speed was an average of at least 6 shots......I did another day month later and was COLDER and Near speed averages 924 fps, far speed was 912 fps and BC calculated to .580... as it lost LESS SPEED starting SLOWER.....I would think the .361 BC reading was closer to what i was getting for my basic calculations to enter the Hornady Ballistic Program to get a DROP in MOA at varying distances.....?

Hopefully mods will help the varying vertical shifts, then I MAY next season set up in parking lot  one morning, when NO ONE IS THERE, and try another 150 yds, provided my scope objective end doesn't hit the frame......But all i really want now is to have much better shot placements at a good distance as I am satisfied with where the distance is now.....It is actually way to far for any practical good........I will save your calculated numbers anyway and thanks again BOB.

Carl

[rsterne]

Your statement that BC varies a lot with velocity is spot on.... particularly with velocities over about 900 fps.... where it drops quickly.... While the actual BC is unknown, by using a reasonable estimate of the downrange velocity and BC, and juggling the numbers until they matched your drop at 700, 800, and 900 yards, I got a very close prediction to what you experienced at 1065 yards.... That gives me reasonable confidence in the predictions for even further out, as the continued velocity loss is small, and the Drag Coefficient is relatively constant at those velocities.... It will be interesting to see if your experience validates the estimates....

Bob

[rifle50]

Very cool! Awesome shooting and gun!

Bruce

Thanks for the compliments and for commenting............Carl

[rifle50]

THIS is one for the record books somewhere.....that was a great day for airgunning!  Kudos, Sir.  Very well done indeed.

Thanks for the compliments.. Records Don't concern me and am sure it is the longest hits on a target........

It was to satisfy my want to see how far I COULD make it go. Yes it shows the air gun community what IS POSSIBLE and beyond for those that follow. The beyond will take a serious effort for the place to be LONG ENOUGH with ample area of some way to see the misses, like dry DIRT ...Or have a barrier near the target for someone to be protected and relay WHERE you are hitting to get proper elevation...This helps to also relay info WHERE on target the hits are, once proper elevation is attained..

Carl

[bluethunder]

Congratulations Carl,

   That is an awesome achievement. I myself just picked up my piece of steel. It's 46" X 54". I took your advice and bought 10 gauge steel (.133" inches). It weighs at least 80 lbs. I found out that 1/8" (.125" inches) steel is not 10 gauge.
    Waiting for C.ALLS to get my other spring in to start tuning the Extreme. Were going to try a music wire 16 pounder and a stainless steel 14 pounder. He's going to help me tune the rifle once we get the springs in. Not sure when the spring will get here so I'm not sure when testing can resume. The weather is getting worse by the day so 2015 maybe lost. We'll see.