124 thoughts

[Sundog]

I am currently in the process of repairing and refinishing the stock of my 124 and having anticipatory thoughts of what to do ahead.

The scope that has been on it is a 1978 Beeman’s 2.5x32.  It was mounted in place decades ago and Loctited onto the receiver, and it hasn’t moved until recently when I removed it.

I’m not certain how today’s Loctite formulas would hold, so I was thinking about drilling and tapping the rear scope mount for a set screw and locating it so the screw protrudes into one of the recesses machined into the receiver.    Has anyone tried this approach?

I was also wondering, having read the article regarding bluing in the library, if waxing would protect finishes on the rifle steel and the scope aluminum better than a polarizing oil such as Barricade (Sheath) alone.

Comments and suggestions appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

[Daysailer]

Love my 124 sport.

History says, The set screw idea will most likely fail.
Many others have tried mounts with dedicated stop pins, and found that they dont hold the scope,
and will scar the  'cross pin' stop grove in the process.

I cant remember the brand or model of the mounts that have the cross pin designed into them.
A search here, or maybe on the vingage fourm, should turn up posts with the info.

Here is a link to get you started;
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=17875.0

[Kailua]

I wouldn't want to damage a classic rifle like a 124 by drilling holes into it.  BKL mounts are known to be really good for handling recoil. 

[robert w]

I wouldn't want to damage a classic rifle like a 124 by drilling holes into it.  BKL mounts are known to be really good for handling recoil. 

x-2 on that. id go with bkl also and not screw a jewel of a gun like you have sir

[Sundog]

The last thing I would ever consider is drilling the 124.  What I was thinking is modifying the scope mounts.  Perhaps tapping a short nylon screw into the bottom of the rear scope mount to somewhat fit the contour of the scallop in the receiver.   My thought is that the nylon will not mar the steel, but crowd the dovetail and interfere enough with the scallop to keep the scope from sliding back, since it is not recoil but the piston stopping that shakes the scope off the back of a Springer, if my memory serves me correctly.

I may not have an issue.  Loctite held for three decades and I have a couple of recent "industrial strenght" formulas to try.  That would be my first "druther".

 

[Motorhead]

Beemans SPECIFIC recoil block for the 124/127 rifles was nothing more than a snug fitting dovetail with a long set screw on top indexing into one of the receivers smile cuts.
Your actual scope rings just butted up against it preventing shift.

So rings with s stop screw such as UTG/Leapers or a BKL should be just fine IMO'

Issue typically is NOT BEING TIGHT ENOUGH when securing the rings dovetail pinch screws .... Dang snug is required !!!

[Mark 611]

I'd also look at some Spots Match mounts their made for the FWB and the Webley Patriot rail!

[tjk]

Ditto to Marks comments. Get the sights that are made for this type of reciever. Drilling and tapping out a vertical stop pin in the rings/mount is NOT an option. Sufficiant torque in of the rings/mounts is all that is needed for zero movement.
In all reality, a scope rings/mount stop system isn't needed on these rifles as they are not a super harsh fireing gun. Especially when tuned with top grade components and lubes. I think the Beeman scope stop was another marketing accessory add on for sales more than actual use on the FWB Sporters. Not to say they were t useful for other much harsher shooting guns like the Webley 's etc.
one of the beauties of the FWB Sporters is their great power output  to lite cocking effort needed,....but also for their balance and shootibility that other springers can't come close to in terms of shot cycle and recoil movement that dictate the amount of hold sensitivity.

[whyrock]

Good rings dang snug (per motorhead)....maybe X110 pct... should do the trick IMO.  The FWB 124 is definitely not on my list of scope killers, and everything seems to stay put on my rifle without doing anything extraordinary.

[Calmark]

I use a pair of BKL scope mounts on my FWB 124 and they have held fine without a stop pin.  My other FWB 124 uses some two piece Leapers mounts and hasn't had them move yet either.  These rifles don't tend to shake scope mounts loose too easily, though I have had to re tighten mine on occasion.  Some blue loctite on my screws would probably solve the problem, but I just haven't gotten around to it...

[cnjl3]

Mark, Blue Loctite is your friend. My scope mount screws would always vibrate loose until I started using the Blue Loctite. Once you start using it you are on "Easy Street."