10 meter one-hole groups

[limbwalker]

I'm still learning airguns and from time to time I'll pull up a post of a nice group and think 'hmm, that's pretty good shooting!' 

But then I find out that it's shot at 10 meters.

Right now, I have three airguns in my house.  A RWS Diana 34 (lube tuned only), a $99 TF99 and a $89 Crosman Phantom. 

Every single one of those inexpensive guns will give me sub-3/8" groups at 10 meters.  The TF99 does it with open sights. 

My 34 will give me one-fat-pellet-hole groups at 10 meters with three different kinds of pellets.

Even the el-cheapo Crosman Phantom will wallow out a black hole in 5 shots or less - at .177 caliber - at 10 meters.

So I guess what I'm saying is if you aren't getting sub-1/2" groups at 10 meters, you just haven't found the right pellet for your gun yet IMO. 

I got so bored with putting pellets through the same hole at 10 meters last night that I had to back my target up to 25 yards just to have any rounds land outside the hole I'd made. 

So - and this is coming from an airgun newbie, so take it with a grain of salt - get out there and find your gun's favorite food.  It has one.  I'm sure of that.

John

[.22 Varmint]

   Yeah, you want to be sure to find the best pellet for your particular gun. If the groups are not great at 10m they will only get progressively worse and worse as distance increases. Shooting at 10m does not usually show an airgun's true accuracy potential but it is a good start.

Andrew

[rsterne]

"Excellent" groups at 10 metres will pass the "Feinwerbau Test".... a pellet can be placed in the hole produced by a 5-shot group and remain in the paper.... MOA groups at 10 M will be 0.11" C-T-C, which means the OD of the group will be 0.29" in .177, and 0.33" in .22 cal....

Bob

[palonej]

Couldn't agree more. Picked up a TX last month and tested lots of different pellets. My gun will not hit anything past 25 yards with points or wads. She loves domes, especially FTTs in 4.51 or 4.52, 4.50 fit too loose, and JSBs. With any of these I have grouped out to 75 yards.
If I didn't try a bunch of different pellets, and just shot wads or points, I would've sworn this gun was a bust.
This group was shot at 50 yards with 15 FTTs.
Find her fav food!!!
Joe

[Mebits]

Couldn't agree more. Picked up a TX last month and tested lots of different pellets. My gun will not hit anything past 25 yards with points or wads. She loves domes, especially FTTs in 4.51 or 4.52, 4.50 fit too loose, and JSBs. With any of these I have grouped out to 75 yards.
If I didn't try a bunch of different pellets, and just shot wads or points, I would've sworn this gun was a bust.
This group was shot at 50 yards with 15 FTTs.
Find her fav food!!!
Joe

At that range, I have to view the few fliers as more likely related to a breeze, or you than the gun or pellets!!!

That's some nice shooting!!!

[palonej]

I'd love to blame the breeze, gun, pellets, gravitational pull, high tide......but I can't!! I KNOW it's operator error!!!
Joe

[birdmove]

  I shoot mostly at roughly 10 yards when testing different pellets for accuracy in my air rifles. My two best groups measuring O" center to center have been, first, with my Remington Airmaster 77 using 3 pumps and Gamo Match pellets, and second, with my Crosman Custom Shop 2400 cO2 carbine shooting Crosman Premier hollow points. Both are scoped.

[jdub]

I find that shooting at 10 yards is very helpful too.  Indoors with no wind or other distractions you can quickly indentify which pellets are NOT going to work with a rifle.   I have found several high quality pellets that group very loosely at 10 yards.   No second guessing bad results that close. 

Another reason I like 10 yards is because you can tell at a glance how you are shooting on any given day.  If you have a setup that consistently delivers one-hole accuracy at that range and you're getting slight cloverleafs you know you need to work on your technique. 

And even though I too, have several rifles that deliver that kind of accuracy it still requires effort on my part.  I don't get excited and post photos but I do derive a certain amount of satisfaction from a very nice 5 shot one hole group. 

I've also noticed that when switching from .177 to .22 even a one hole .22 group looks bigger than it should

[birdmove]

  Yeah, I can't get 0" center to center any time I want, that's for sure. But that just makes me appreciate it all that much more when I do. With some air rifles I never will my cheap Beeman take down springer will probably never do it for me. The best I've ever done with it is 3/16" and I was happy as can be with that! I've never shot a decent springer. I would like something like an Air Venturi Bronco. Not too loud, great trigger, accurate, and easy to shoot for a springer.

[rsterne]

I use indoor shooting (at only 20') to eliminate more than half the pellets in every gun I test.... If they won't pull a ragged hole at that range there is no point in even trying them outdoors....

Bob