Thanks brother and I don't have a .25 in my collection springer or other. I have my .22 Gamo Extrme hunter 1250 that push's the .16g pred's plenty and she's all I need and been working on getting her first Yote for sometime now. I and it's my personal opinion feel that .25 springers need to put out more fps for me to aquire one and I'm pretty happy with my .177's and .22's and what they can do...so far hehe. Ed