Sheridan Blue Streak Identification

[TobyH]

As mine doesn't have the screw holes anyway, that is a very good idea!!

Not sure what you mean about getting the 0.50" aperture as I can't find anywhere on the Williams website about different apertures?

[TobyH]

Before I go down the williams peep sight route, are these suitable for hunting? I don't have a major problem with the open sights and was wondering if you can see what your shooting easily enough with the peep sights?

[Tom @ Buzzard Bluff]

Before I go down the williams peep sight route, are these suitable for hunting? I don't have a major problem with the open sights and was wondering if you can see what your shooting easily enough with the peep sights?

Absolutely! In fact peeps are my preference for hunting at airgun range of 40 yds. or less. Unlike scopes which seem to need readjustment with the phases of the moons of Saturn once a good quality peep is adjusted it stays in adjustment.

An oft overlooked peep benefit is that an aperture acts as a focusing lens and peeps are still practical for those whose eyes can no longer cope with blurry open sights. So they are practical long-term investments as well.

Do a bit of historical research to see what the target shooters of the 19th century could do with peepsights at the 1000 yd. matches such as Creedmore. You WILL be pleasantly surprised!    Tom

[PakProtector]

hey-Hey!!!,
I ordered from Natchez( and they have the widest line of aperatures for the sights of anybody I saw yet ), and there are two diameters in question: outer diameter of the flat face with a hole in the center to look through and that of the hole itself. Williams are available in either 1" or 3/8" face diameters. The second is the aperature, aka what you're looking through. In that let me suggest .050" or ~1.25 mm diameter. I discovered by accident that Mendoza peeps have a 1/2" outter face diameter and that is what I'll be using 'til I get the natchez order...but I reduced its ID to .053" from .093". The 1" will require either a notch or a complete reduction in diameter. Haven't decided on which I'll do yet.

The peep sight works by the pin-hole effect; it gives an improved depth of focus( ability to see both near and far). You wish to be able to focus on both front sight post and target simultaneously or the game is up. The peep sight offers this ability; look through the small hole and the depth of fucus increases. Smaller is better, but as with your iris, smaller requires more light.

As far as hunting goes, they're quite good. I used one to qualify Expert one summer long ago at the MCRD PI and that was up to 500 yards. 232 out of 250 for second highest marks out of the 4-platoon series...
cheers,
Douglas

[TobyH]

What size aperture does the standard 5D-SH peep come with? I've found them on MidwayUK which is good. Shipping and extra costs from Nachez is ridiculous despite them being alot cheaper. It's going to cost me $94 for the 5D + the aperture from MidwayUK assuming I need to buy a 0.50" aperture...

[TobyH]

Yet another question! Whats the difference between the 'regular' aperture and the 'twilight' aperture? Are they the same size thread etc?

IGNORE THIS QUESTION I'VE JUST LOOKED AT THE WILLIAMS CATALOGUE AND IT GIVES ALL THIS INFORMATION! SORRY!!

[PakProtector]

What size aperture does the standard 5D-SH peep come with? I've found them on MidwayUK which is good. Shipping and extra costs from Nachez is ridiculous despite them being alot cheaper. It's going to cost me $94 for the 5D + the aperture from MidwayUK assuming I need to buy a 0.50" aperture...

Wow!!! Please let me help; that is $50 US plus shipping to UK( another $10 perhaps? ) so I can save you a bit...now that is 0.050" or fifty thousandths of an inch...

The glue is Devcon Plastic Welder No. 14300. Two part in a black box, and loaded in a two barrel syringe. Smells terrible, like it should be a controlled substance like the old model glue...
cheers,
Douglas

[TobyH]

Thanks for the offer Douglas, I ended up buying it anyway. Too kean to try it out!!

I've used devcon before on engines when we were testing them. Very good stuff. Very strong. I can drill and tap the action myself so when it arrives I'll have a look and see if it's worth it or not. The only problem is that devcon is very expensive stuff and you can't buy it in small quantities. However, I'm sure I can find something suitable if required.

[TobyH]

I take back what I said about small quantities, I guess thats just the metal welding stuff. Found the syringe type stuff your talking about at a reasonable price.

[badredbird]

yes the guns are very suitable for hunting, ive killed ground hogs  rabbits , squirrels , raccoons and many many doves and starling, i wish my eyes were good enoughto use a peep, i used when i shot smallbore, i do have about 5 sets of the original sheridan scope bases /mounts , so ive scoped mine, the gun as far as killing is good to a max of 60yds for me anyhow , ive killed some squirrels that far , they are fine guns, im glad you resealed yours , its truly a piece of art , enjoy it 

[PakProtector]

hey-Hey!!!,
I tried moving out to 45 yards. One pump more, and a 2" hold over did the trick for JSB's... It still left a few fliers due to windage...but I am not going to worry about scoping this '73 Blue.
cheers,
Douglas

[TobyH]

Ok, i've now got the williams peep sight, but with no screw holes I've no idea how far from the rear of the action the sight should be mounted.

I have also been trying to find out what thread size the bolts are so I can drill and tap the sight onto the action, but had no luck so far...?

Can someone tell me how far the sight should be mounted? best use the distance from the rear of the action where the bolt goes in to the rear of the base mount

[TobyH]

p.s. I can't believe in this day and age that Williams don't have an email address!!

[PakProtector]

Ok, i've now got the williams peep sight, but with no screw holes I've no idea how far from the rear of the action the sight should be mounted.

I have also been trying to find out what thread size the bolts are so I can drill and tap the sight onto the action, but had no luck so far...?

Can someone tell me how far the sight should be mounted? best use the distance from the rear of the action where the bolt goes in to the rear of the base mount

The theads are #6-48UNEF. Put the sight as far back as you can; I think mine is just awee bit forward of that. Assemble it and lay it against the action and see what it looks like. As far back as you can and still clear the bolt...
cheers,
Douglas

[TobyH]

Douglas is that 6/48th's UNEF?

Thanks for the information, will see if I can get the tap and drill for it.

[TobyH]

Nope, got it. This is what I'm after right http://www.midwayusa.com/product/293476/weaver-drill-and-tap-set-with-32-drill-and-6-48-thread-tap?

[PakProtector]

Nope, got it. This is what I'm after right http://www.midwayusa.com/product/293476/weaver-drill-and-tap-set-with-32-drill-and-6-48-thread-tap?

that will do. now, just one thing...notice how far back from the tip the full threads start. I bought two taps. One I ground back a fair bit to use as the starter, and the other I ground back all the way to full threads for a bottoming tap.  The holes are not very deep, and there is little space behind if you decide to go all the way through( and I am not certain this is a good idea; I think it looks like the hole will intersect the main tube and I do not want to interfere with hammer travel).
cheers,
Douglas

in any case, the glue alone is still holding... I have not yet tapped one. On the 1977 blue I got from Dad it also has a glued on Peep sight, and that one hasn't fallen off either.

[TobyH]

Yeah I'm thinking the glue may be the best route as they want £9 for the parts and £9 postage which is ridiculous!!

Will get some of the Devcon and give that a try.