Your homework paid off in spades ! That is a fantastic setup you've got there. It looks like you two are getting along wonderfully.
Nice looking set up Kevin.
That stock is gorgeous. Well done!
Tell us more about the rings. I have never shot Silhouette .Mitch
The purpose of tall rings for silhouette has nothing to do with clearing the scope objective over the barrel, at all.Many shooters, especially benchrest disciplines try to mount their scopes as close to the bore axis as they can- theoretically and in practice, mounting a scope low can minimize parallax issues, as it brings the line of sight and axis of the bore closer and thus the intersection down range more forgiving. I used to set my rifles up that way, and did the same with my first attempts at silhouette shooting. Time and experience have taught me that if my rifle is set up properly, the comfort and fit of my rifle and scope matter much more. Raising the scope height for offhand shooting has advantages.NRA smallbore silhouette has 2 classes- Hunter and Standard which some call Unlimited. I shoot Hunter class-Which has the following restrictions:The rifle has to be a traditional sporter style stock and fit in a “conformation box” provided by the range officer at each match. The comb cannot extend above the axis of the bore.The foreend must be a traditional hunting taper.Barrel no longer than 26”The stock cannot have any attachments or projections/hand hold devices.Slings are allowed- but cannot be USED to assist the hold. (No wrist/elbow wrap!)Scope cannot be mounted higher than 1.5” above the rifle.Rifle and scope cannot weigh over 8.5 lb.Trigger cannot be lighter than 2lb.Barrel must be tapered.No aftermarket tuners or barrel attachments allowed. Factory tuners/barrel weights are allowed, provided they do not function as a muzzle brake.It’s just you and a typical hunting style rifle.Shooting silhouette primarily requires CONSISTENCY . You want to shoulder the rifle the same way, every time, and you want a clear scope image to naturally appear every time you pull up and hold.You need a scope that can RELIABLY track from 40m to 60m, 77m and 100m then back down to 40 again- without any inconsistency in the POA/POI relationship. From 40-100 and back usually involves around 40 clicks on a 1/4” increment elevation turret.It is POSSIBLE to use a Mil-Dot reticle & holdover- but you’ll never see anyone in the upper half of the pack doing it- or at least I haven’t.You want your head as vertical as you can get. Think of tall rings as “lowering the rifle” as you raise the scope. Your forward hand is propped on your ribcage and hip, so as you mount the scope higher, your forward hand doesn’t have to work so hard to raise the rifle and hold it steady.It’s much easier to hold my rifle stable with taller rings. Many silhouette shooters cant the scope in the rings, rotating the scope about 5 degrees or so clockwise for a right handed shooter, so when the rifle is shouldered the scope is rolled toward the shooters eye for the crosshairs to be level. This also aids in keeping the head straight. Keeping your head straight helps with overall balance. Everyone has different body dimensions, and we often learn bad form for true offhand consistency- I know I certainly did.I had to unlearn many bad habits before I started to see any success shooting silhouette.As you learn better form, your rifle setup often evolves over time- I use what works for me. I find my hold to be much more stable and I have longer lasting hold stamina over the course of a 40 and especially an 80 shot match. Try hitting a 3”x4” target at 84 yards or a 5”x5” target at 109 yards with a rimfire rifle, without a sling or any added attachments and you’ll see what I mean.The truth is, NRA smallbore silhouette is one of the single most technically difficult shooting disciplines to master- but it’s also one of the most rewarding. Seeing a Ram 🐏 fly off the rail 109 yards away is a hoot! We shoot with subsonic ammo- about 1050fps, so 1/3 of a second passes between the shot and the hit, which is then soon followed by the “clang” reaching your ears. Too much fun, IF you like a challenge.
Glad it all came together for you. Jim sure picked you out a fine piece of furniture. Have fun and enjoy.
Are you shooting 10th or 5th scale targets? Which the Regal and what distances?
Quote from: ssbn617 on November 24, 2019, 09:41:09 PMTell us more about the rings. I have never shot Silhouette .MitchMitch- the NRA limits scope height to 1.5” above the rail. There are two companies that make silhouette specific 1.5 inch rings, D3 Precision which is run by a great guy named Pete who sells on eBay, $50 plus shipping and then there’s Morr Accuracy rings which run about $85 a pair and only come in raw aluminum. I have both, and while I have a slight preference for the Morr aesthetics of the Morr Accuracy rings, the D3 Precision are actually easier to work with installing and removing as they use a 2 screw and separate steel clamp configuration, while the Morr Accuracy rings use a single screw without a separate clamping plate and you have to spread the clamping jaws to fit them. It’s not that big a deal if you plan to install and forget them, but I often start the season with a variable scope and then move to a higher power fixed. If you want details and pics, I posted a comprehensive review of both rings on RimfireCentral.com:https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1159821I Edited the following which I posted in response to another query in the Optics Gate several weeks ago:Quote from: DrGunner The purpose of tall rings for silhouette has nothing to do with clearing the scope objective over the barrel, at all.Many shooters, especially benchrest disciplines try to mount their scopes as close to the bore axis as they can- theoretically and in practice, mounting a scope low can minimize parallax issues, as it brings the line of sight and axis of the bore closer and thus the intersection down range more forgiving. I used to set my rifles up that way, and did the same with my first attempts at silhouette shooting. Time and experience have taught me that if my rifle is set up properly, the comfort and fit of my rifle and scope matter much more. Raising the scope height for offhand shooting has advantages.NRA smallbore silhouette has 2 classes- Hunter and Standard which some call Unlimited. I shoot Hunter class-Which has the following restrictions:The rifle has to be a traditional sporter style stock and fit in a “conformation box” provided by the range officer at each match. The comb cannot extend above the axis of the bore.The foreend must be a traditional hunting taper.Barrel no longer than 26”The stock cannot have any attachments or projections/hand hold devices.Slings are allowed- but cannot be USED to assist the hold. (No wrist/elbow wrap!)Scope cannot be mounted higher than 1.5” above the rifle.Rifle and scope cannot weigh over 8.5 lb.Trigger cannot be lighter than 2lb.Barrel must be tapered.No aftermarket tuners or barrel attachments allowed. Factory tuners/barrel weights are allowed, provided they do not function as a muzzle brake.It’s just you and a typical hunting style rifle.Shooting silhouette primarily requires CONSISTENCY . You want to shoulder the rifle the same way, every time, and you want a clear scope image to naturally appear every time you pull up and hold.You need a scope that can RELIABLY track from 40m to 60m, 77m and 100m then back down to 40 again- without any inconsistency in the POA/POI relationship. From 40-100 and back usually involves around 40 clicks on a 1/4” increment elevation turret.It is POSSIBLE to use a Mil-Dot reticle & holdover- but you’ll never see anyone in the upper half of the pack doing it- or at least I haven’t.You want your head as vertical as you can get. Think of tall rings as “lowering the rifle” as you raise the scope. Your forward hand is propped on your ribcage and hip, so as you mount the scope higher, your forward hand doesn’t have to work so hard to raise the rifle and hold it steady.It’s much easier to hold my rifle stable with taller rings. Many silhouette shooters cant the scope in the rings, rotating the scope about 5 degrees or so clockwise for a right handed shooter, so when the rifle is shouldered the scope is rolled toward the shooters eye for the crosshairs to be level. This also aids in keeping the head straight. Keeping your head straight helps with overall balance. Everyone has different body dimensions, and we often learn bad form for true offhand consistency- I know I certainly did.I had to unlearn many bad habits before I started to see any success shooting silhouette.As you learn better form, your rifle setup often evolves over time- I use what works for me. I find my hold to be much more stable and I have longer lasting hold stamina over the course of a 40 and especially an 80 shot match. Try hitting a 3”x4” target at 84 yards or a 5”x5” target at 109 yards with a rimfire rifle, without a sling or any added attachments and you’ll see what I mean.The truth is, NRA smallbore silhouette is one of the single most technically difficult shooting disciplines to master- but it’s also one of the most rewarding. Seeing a Ram 🐏 fly off the rail 109 yards away is a hoot! We shoot with subsonic ammo- about 1050fps, so 1/3 of a second passes between the shot and the hit, which is then soon followed by the “clang” reaching your ears. Too much fun, IF you like a challenge.I know this is a LOT more than you bargained for, but silhouette has become my passion.I got into benchrest and precision accuracy for a few years, and as a result, my offhand shooting skills suffered horribly. About 5-6 Years ago, I started researching methods to practice offhand shooting and some of my friends on RFC steered me towards silhouette and my clutch cable broke during my first match, LOL. I literally shot a score of 3/40, but I was HOOKED. DrGunner
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