Weird Bulldog question

[YEMX]

For those of you that have opened up a, or your, bulldog- could the trigger be modified to be a "normal" trigger?  Looking at the parts diagram, the gun looks MUCH better without the stock parts.  I've had this idea in my head to get one used or on sale someday and make it a rifle...  I'm just not sure, just by looking at the parts diagram.

[Wayne52]

I too prefer the looks and feel of the conventional style rifle myself, I thought the Benjamin Rogue was a sweet rifle too, IMO they should have refined it and ironed out the bugs they had with it but instead they just dropped it from their line and the next big bore they came out with was the Bulldog.  I've never been fond of the bullpups personally but there's a lot of people who love them.

[FuzzyGrub]

When I had mine apart, if memory serves, the rod pulls forward to fire vs backwards, which complicates mounting a trigger to the bottom of the receiver.   I think a semi-bullpup would be easier, but trigger design is not something I've paid allot of attention to.   The schematics and models in the crosman EVP might help. 

[YEMX]

...if memory serves, the rod pulls forward to fire vs backwards...

Yeah, now that I think about it- you're right.  Looking at the parts diagram a bit closer... 

I too prefer the looks and feel of the conventional style rifle myself, I thought the Benjamin Rogue was a sweet rifle too, IMO they should have refined it and ironed out the bugs they had with it but instead they just dropped it from their line and the next big bore they came out with was the Bulldog.  I've never been fond of the bullpups personally but there's a lot of people who love them.

I felt that the Rogue was built too much towards a price point, rather than letting the engineers do what they do best.  On top of that, they tried to add too many features to an already small budget.  The idea was cool, but the execution was terrible. 
  I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't particularly favor bullpups! 

Looking at the schematics again, and again, and again... dang it- I may just have to buy one...        Anyhoo- looking at the schematics again, I don't think there's even a spot I could use to mount a stock.  The guts are clamshelled together.  How annoying.  I knew that before, but reeeeally looking at the schematics makes me feel like Crosman deliberately decided "...Lets build THE UGLIEST airgun possible.  Then we can build it in such a way, that customers can't easily modify it!"    GD it Crosman... 

[FuzzyGrub]

Looking at the schematics again, and again, and again... dang it- I may just have to buy one...        Anyhoo- looking at the schematics again, I don't think there's even a spot I could use to mount a stock.  The guts are clamshelled together.  How annoying.  I knew that before, but reeeeally looking at the schematics makes me feel like Crosman deliberately decided "...Lets build THE UGLIEST airgun possible.  Then we can build it in such a way, that customers can't easily modify it!"    GD it Crosman...

My thoughts on the stock lug, was to move the foster fill to the front of the tube, and come up with a 1/8 NPT plug that a stock lug would thread into, ie it would be a custom piece. 

[YEMX]

My thoughts on the stock lug, was to move the foster fill to the front of the tube, and come up with a 1/8 NPT plug that a stock lug would thread into, ie it would be a custom piece.

I've come to the same conclusion.  It is the only feasible place to really mount a stock lug.

[TheLakeRat]

Here is a Video of how the trigger works in a bulldog. Might be of help to you.

[YEMX]

EXCELLENT!!  Many thanks for that link!!

[YEMX]

another weird idea I have about the bulldog is to have a air block, like a Cobra bottle adapter from WAR, with a CF tank... Replace the barrel with a TJ 24" barrel, and have a conventional trigger...  Of course, if I were even able to get those parts, the gun would be in the Slayer or Flex territory, with regards to price. 

So, I think the easiest thing would be to hack and modify the factory stock, so that it looks a bit better.  Either way, with the introduction of Travis's SS valve for the bulldog, it's a more viable option for .357 for me.  I wonder how much it would cost to have a TJ .357 barrel machined to fit?   

Speaking more on modifying the bulldog stock...  I'm thinking along the lines of a Walther WA2000 would be nice.  I mean, I can't do any worse than Crosman!! 

[oldpro]

Tom I’d get a TJ barrel 32” Long this would increase velocity and efficiency but more importantly it would take the barrel past the end cap and allow a screw on moderator.

[YEMX]

Tom I’d get a TJ barrel 32” Long this would increase velocity and efficiency but more importantly it would take the barrel past the end cap and allow a screw on moderator.

I totally read that wrong on the first go...  I was thinking "end cap" on the air cylinder, but you meant the end cap of the barrel shroud.  When I get one, there won't be a barrel shroud, so attaching an LDC would be no problem! 

Of course you're right about the longer barrel- I suppose 4" longer than factory isn't too bad...  But man, a 40" long bullpup!  Then a LDC on top of that!  At least the LDC can come off for transport...

[TheLakeRat]

When I get caught up on Moderators i plan on Trying to make a few different barrel conversion. like .45 and .308 and possibly even .257

[Geronimo]

You could use a barrel band with a mounting point for the stock kinda like a marauder pistol and re engineer a way to use lee’s shoulder stock with the bulldog. If you don’t it to be black gun style, you can use a wood stock and maybe 2 barrel bands to keep it from twisting. Dang it, now you have me wanting a bulldog again so i can figure out how to put it in a stock. The race is on?

[TheLakeRat]

I will be willing to 3d print you the barrel bands if you give me measurements of how you want them.

[Alexander Arvizu]