2nd Gammo Urban lemon

[RAJOD]

40 Good Shots on Reg is not a problem, JSB 14.35 Grain @ 760 - 780 FPS

Nice!   

Mine shoots jsb 15.9s the best around 815 ave 810-846 for like 28 shots.   

How much veleocity did you loose when you installed the reg?    Stock mine would shoot those 14.35 grains at around 865 fps.

I would like to keep my 15.9s above 800 fps.     Which means I would probably not get your 40 good shots.   Maybe 35?

I probably only really get 20 good shots +- 10fps the rest are -+ 20 fps

[RAJOD]

Yep.... my Mrod and SPA guns are like that. When the mag is empty the bolt won't cycle. I know there is a shot indicator on the mags but, my eyes are too old to see it. I did add some yellow paint marker to show last shot position but you have to look at it each time.

Yes those markers sound like a great idea.  In real life I don't often look and often shoot a blank shot on the 11th same with others I shoot with.   

Its actually a small feat to do a 40 shot chrono without shooting an airball the muck up the results.

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Not only that..
In a hunting scenario, It's nice to know your not shooting blanks at your intended target.

[triggertreat]

WOW!  Sounds like the Urban fits well in the lottery category.  I have only heard good things about them up until this thread.

I still think the Urban is a great gun for the price.   I think many people keep them with defects and fix on their own.

I could have kept my first one but it had a broken gauge and did not want to pay 50.00 for a new gauge.
2nd one shoots good.  I could keep if I am willing to live with it shooting 2 inches low at 30 yards with the scope turrets maxed out.    FX ($75.00) no limits mount would have fixed it or maybe cutting off the barrel band.   

Its a very nice gun for the money and maybe due to the low price quality control is an area that gets sacrificed.   

So they are sort of like a lottery.   

I think if a modder buys one he most likely will be able to live with ones that others send back.    Some guys tear any gun apart and tinker to improve over stock.

I will say the ones I have shot grouped well, much better than the 25 yard groups shown on pyramid air site.

I still recommend it for anyone wanting to get into PCP.    Great bang for the dollar gun.   Its is not far off from a $700.00 BSA Scorpion SE probably shoots as good just cheaper on trigger and stock.

I agree, The price is right and there are many guns that need a little TLC once out of the box based on reading the forums.  I most likely would've purchased an Urban over my Marauder back a few years ago when I bought my first one to save some coin.  Marauders where ~$600 back in the day with a hand pump and were the cheapest multi-shot PCP at the time of my purchase.  Kinda glad the Urban wasn't available back then though.

[RAJOD]

WOW!  Sounds like the Urban fits well in the lottery category.  I have only heard good things about them up until this thread.

I still think the Urban is a great gun for the price.   I think many people keep them with defects and fix on their own.

I could have kept my first one but it had a broken gauge and did not want to pay 50.00 for a new gauge.
2nd one shoots good.  I could keep if I am willing to live with it shooting 2 inches low at 30 yards with the scope turrets maxed out.    FX ($75.00) no limits mount would have fixed it or maybe cutting off the barrel band.   

Its a very nice gun for the money and maybe due to the low price quality control is an area that gets sacrificed.   

So they are sort of like a lottery.   

I think if a modder buys one he most likely will be able to live with ones that others send back.    Some guys tear any gun apart and tinker to improve over stock.

I will say the ones I have shot grouped well, much better than the 25 yard groups shown on pyramid air site.

I still recommend it for anyone wanting to get into PCP.    Great bang for the dollar gun.   Its is not far off from a $700.00 BSA Scorpion SE probably shoots as good just cheaper on trigger and stock.

I agree, The price is right and there are many guns that need a little TLC once out of the box based on reading the forums.  I most likely would've purchased an Urban over my Marauder back a few years ago when I bought my first one to save some coin.  Marauders where ~$600 back in the day with a hand pump and were the cheapest multi-shot PCP at the time of my purchase.  Kinda glad the Urban wasn't available back then though.

Yea the Maurader is a step up in quality.     I got my 3rd Urban today.    I might keep the second one.

This one is better up and down.   The barrel band is just too tight on these.   If you push the barrel say 1 inch to the right and let go.  It will snap back maybe 1/2" and the band will hold it in a new position which could be 6 inches off at 20 yards.     

I think it might be best to just cut off the barrel band and float it.

Also the new one does not cycle well.  When you push the clip in it goes in maybe 1/8" too far which causes the probe to catch the edge of the hole.  Just have to push the magazine left a tiny bit and it lines up.   This why people are tearing up their probe Orings.     
Its due to them getting cheap and removing the centering peg (which the BSA scorpion has)  With no centering peg the clip hits a (Plastic) piece on the right side of the gun.    On the new gun that plastic piece is flexed out maybe 1/8" more than it should be.   I can fix it with a shim or something. 

So I'm deciding, keep the second one and cut the barrel band (hope the barrel pops up enough where I can zero a scope at 30 yards.   Or maybe swap that plastic side piece for better cycling.

Will take it out tomorrow and see how it groups.

From my experience I think most of the urbans are going to have small issues out of the box.

The barrel band was a dumb idea they should have floated it.   Or they should have made the band so you could easily remove it.  It might help in shipping to have it on.   

I'll guess that 50 percent of the Urbans will have the cycling issue or the barrel band issue.  Both are fixable and livable.    Its due to cost cutting measures.   

Thing is to get much better you have to pay 500.00+ at this price point I guess its expected.

All three have been accurate which  is what counts.    All three did not leak, or have trigger issues.

So they got lots right with the gun.   

I think I'm about finished with my low end guns experiment and moving back into Daystate land again.  Wanted to see how close the low end guns are to the better ones.

Accuracy wise they are not much worse.   

For your first PCP Gammo Urban gets my vote even with the minor issues.    If you end up liking PCPs then you can save pennies for a Daystate or Fx.   

[RAJOD]

I ended up cutting off the barrel band.   Once I did that the barrely poped up and the scope could be zeroed easily at 30 yards.    Its perfect now.    The barrel works best fully floated.

The problem was the air tube is not parallel to the barrel.   The end of the tube by the gauge is further from the barrel than near the breach, not sure why that is but that made the band pull the barrel down and hold it.   

The barrel is thicker than most air guns, it does not flex much.    It like the BSA scorpion, so thick it does not need a barrel band and works and shoots better without.