Newbie RWS 48 trigger question

[Tonykarter]

Can I update my RWS 48 (stamped production date is 12/95) trigger to the T06?  Now that I have a few shots through it after the rebuild I realized how sloppy the trigger's action is. My trigger has three ball bearings in it.

Off topic question:  Make and model of that silver PCP shown up in the header? 

[Roadworthy]

The easy answer is yes, you can replace the T01 with a T06.  Just add money.  You will have to purchase the complete trigger assembly as well as a new piston.  You can probably get the parts from Umarex, though Chambers in the UK offers an upgrade kit.  You may be able to get more information from Connecticut Custom Airguns.  The owner tunes many of the side cocking Dianas for competition.

If you opt to keep your T01 trigger they can be reworked and polished to be a much better trigger than they are, however if you are a serious shooter you will probably always find them a bit sloppy.

[Tonykarter]

Thanks for the insight Roadworthy.  I contacted Umarex in Arkansas.  The T06 trigger and piston total $133 incl freight.  I was raised by a man who grew up during the Depression and who would have made his own light bulbs if doing so would have saved the family money.  Some of that rubbed off on me.  (You ought to hear my daughters yell.)  $133 is a lot to pay for something I already own...a trigger assembly.  How good can I make the T01 with the right work on it?  I am not opposed to tearing it apart and investing the requisite time to improve it if doing so will yield significant improvement.  $133...That would go a long way towards paying for a 54 that has a T06 already in it.  If I could find one in .20 the discussion would be over.  If it was your money what would you do?

[Tonykarter]

Wondering...Does the 34 have the T06?  Can I get a 34 and just switch the pistons and trigger assemblies?

[Roadworthy]

The newer 34s do have a T06.  Being a break barrel the piston is not the same as teh 48 piston.  I don't know how it differs other than the 34 has a cocking slot in the piston wall.

The complete kit from Chambers (not just the trigger assembly):  https://www.gunspares.co.uk/products/24953/TO6-Conversion-Kits./

[Tonykarter]

Thanks for the link.  As is usually my luck, they show it to be out of stock at the moment.  Spoke with Umarex and they only have one to spare.  Apparently there is a worldwide T06 trigger famine.

[HectorMedina]

Thanks for the insight Roadworthy.  I contacted Umarex in Arkansas.  The T06 trigger and piston total $133 incl freight.  I was raised by a man who grew up during the Depression and who would have made his own light bulbs if doing so would have saved the family money.  Some of that rubbed off on me.  (You ought to hear my daughters yell.)  $133 is a lot to pay for something I already own...a trigger assembly.  How good can I make the T01 with the right work on it?  I am not opposed to tearing it apart and investing the requisite time to improve it if doing so will yield significant improvement.  $133...That would go a long way towards paying for a 54 that has a T06 already in it.  If I could find one in .20 the discussion would be over.  If it was your money what would you do?

Ray

A 0.20" Cal D54 costs a bit under $1,000
Having said that, the definition of "good" as it applies to triggers can be quite different from shooter to shooter.
The T-O1 can be made into a fine trigger. So good that only a top 10 competition shooter would be able to tell.
It can be set to a letoff of only a few ounces and at that weight, even the not so good OEM blade shape will work well and satisfy the most discerning hunter and plinker. For competition, the T-O1 is slow for offhand and kneeling shots.

There are some trade-off's, as always.

You have two options for the modification:
1.- you can swap the OEM trigger blade screws for a longer set
2.- you can file down the trigger blade at the front screw and allow for a longer screw travel.

The finest point is achieved when the trigger just becomes a single stage trigger and, so, it is not for everyone.

Playing with triggers is like playing with matches. Unless you fully understand what you are doing, you might end up burning the wrong object (yourself included). So, look into the T-O1 trigger diagram VERY CLOSELY, study it in depth before attempting to do the mods.

As always, only you can be responsible for any mods you perform.

One last note:
The T-O5 and T-O6 rifles are a tad longer than the T-O1, so just swapping the piston and trigger block does reduce power a little.

Keep well and shoot straight.


HM

[Tonykarter]

Hector,  Thank you for investing your time in me and my gun.  I swapped the front screw for a longer one and that helped.  I can swap the back screw too for a longer one and that will help even more?  Does anyone make these screws is a better head design like a Torx or Allen head?

Shooting is a Zen thing, but shooting this spring gun is about as Zen as shooting gets.

[WD Feese]

Take the screw out and file the plastic down a hair so the screw will go in farther.  There is no cost to improving an 01 trigger.  The 06 trigger is not necessarily better than an 01.  More about marketing than shooting.

[HectorMedina]

Ray,
What you can achieve changing the screws is a smoother operation.
File round and polish the faces of the screws and you will get an improvement.
I usually use Allen head screws for this application as I feel it's a neater job, but the truth is that these screws are just fulcrums and levers. So any head will do.

WD
Your opinion, as an opinion is respectable. But if you shot competitively, you would have a more informed one that would be different.

Keep well and shoot straight!


HM

[Tonykarter]

Thanks Hector for burning the midnight oil!

[WD Feese]

Hector, my post was poorly writen and does not reflect the ideas I wanted to convey.  I am sorry for the irritation.

[HectorMedina]

No prob. WD!

It's very hard to convey what would be easy to do in a conversation through the keyboard.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated

Keep well and shoot straight!



HM