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JMJ in NC
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Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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December 16, 2015, 05:49:23 PM »
I posted this over on the Crosman forum (and CAPOF too), but here are the details. I wanted to build a multi-pump 10M target gun that I could shoot that could be shortened so that my kids could use it too. My hope is that one of them might become interested in airguns as well and I'd have a shooting partner.
The gun was made from parts I had already, purchased, or made. The goal was minimal cash outlay, maximize adjustability, and hit 500 fps with 4 pumps or less.
Barrel - Lothar Walther .177, 19"
Breech - Crosman Steel
Compression tube - Crosman Powermaster 66, modified to accept Crosman breech & trigger frame
Trigger/frame: Crosman 1701P
Sights - Daisy/Avanti
The current setup has an adjustable flat-top piston & ported valve. There is a volume reducer in the valve.
I have a hammer preload adjuster built into the upper rear stock. LOP adjusts from 10" to 15". The compression tube is about 3/4" longer than a 1377, so it builds pressure rapidly.
I think the steel breech, sights, and the trigger frame are only parts that I did not modify or make. Trigger components are polished, of course.
Performance - with RWS Basics, shooting 465 fps at 3 pumps, 527 fps at 4 pumps. So, pretty close to my target.
Here it was almost complete:
And assembled:
Compared to my Avanti 753:
Compared to my Crosman 1377 carbine:
I still need to tweak it some, but it shoulders and handles well, and accuracy of the barrel is what you'd expect from LW.
JMJ
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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December 18, 2015, 11:07:39 AM »
Nice build, I don't have a multi pumper yet. This gives me some ideas .
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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December 18, 2015, 12:26:19 PM »
Very nice , great job on the build. I would love to have that.
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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July 19, 2016, 03:50:01 AM »
awesome build, what are the numbers after 5 pumps?
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JMJ in NC
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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July 19, 2016, 10:06:55 AM »
Quote from: Rob M on July 19, 2016, 03:50:01 AM
awesome build, what are the numbers after 5 pumps?
Rob,
This was designed as a 10M gun, 500 fps target velocity with 7 grain wadcutters. The valve will retain air after 4 pumps, so velocity will not increase much at 5 pumps in the current setup.
Here is the current configuration, BTW.
This gun is slated to get a slightly longer 2100 compression tube and linkage, which should get me to 500fps at 3 pumps.
JMJ
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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July 21, 2016, 11:41:41 AM »
Thats really sweet looking.
Love the stock with all the adjustments!
Ray
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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July 21, 2016, 03:14:25 PM »
makes perfect sense, and the more swept volume the better , awesome project
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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July 21, 2016, 04:12:36 PM »
Very well done ... a very unique rig you have built yourself.
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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August 16, 2016, 09:12:13 PM »
Very nice!
Where did you get the LW barrel? Thanks.
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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August 17, 2016, 01:21:09 AM »
I remember seeing this- still a beauty!!!
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JMJ in NC
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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August 17, 2016, 01:39:21 PM »
Quote from: bhh on August 16, 2016, 09:12:13 PM
Where did you get the LW barrel?.
Precision Airguns was clearing out some LW barrels (last year IIRC). I got this one for $40 shipped.
Here's another view
JMJ
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August 17, 2016, 06:08:14 PM »
Thanks. That was a great price.
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Re: Custom long-stroke MSP target gun
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August 18, 2016, 03:36:44 AM »
Nice looking build John.
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