Benjamin trail np2

[Old Corps]

Getting in on this thread for updates.  Picked up a Summit in .177.  Light and hollow but good form and comfortable.  Thing shoots fast!  Pretty much flattens out all the lead pellets in 7 or 8 grain when it hits the duct seal, flat head match pellets look like Crow Magnums after impact!  Was hoping the trigger would be lighter unless there is a fix like on the first one.  I have to look at all the postings you guys put up here.  Probably should have went with the upgraded Trail 2 for the scope and sling but the Summit was $141 shipped from Crosman with a Tuesday discount.  Hard to pass it up. Just started shooting indoors but thinking it will turn out to be a good hunter.  If anything like my original Trail, long break in period.

I've got the Summit in .22 and overall I'm very happy with it. The trigger was the best OEM one I've ever had from Crosman/Benji but as you mentioned the pull was too much for me. I took the trigger out and put a lighter spring in which transformed it from good to great! After a bit of tweaking the adjustment it's every bit as good as the CBR trigger I have in the Benji LE. The packaged scope is still in the box--I put a UTG 3-12X44 SWAT on it. I was getting decent groups at 35 yards then she started shooting badly. The shroud had loosened up so much the end cap was out a 1/4" before I noticed it. You no longer can tighten it up with an allen wrench, the cap has indentations in it that I tried to use the points of a pair of needle nose pliers to tighten it up. Didn't work very well so I resorted to using channel locks with a rag over the cap. Seems to have done the job but I still managed to scratch the end of the shroud a bit even with the rag over it....gggrrrr . If it loosens up again I'll remove it and try some locktite. I know if you overtighten it you can crack the plastic piece that goes up against the breech. Anyhoo, the decent groups returned--about 1" to 1 1/2" @ 35 yards. Should improve as she breaks in, only has about 100 pellets through it. I'm going to fill the stock with silicone or maybe just an old t-shirt.

Ed

[seitg74]

So I scoped the Summit with the Center Point 3x9x32 from Wally World.  Was shooting dead on close to 15 yards with out cleaning the barrel. Not sure if they do anything different to the gun when you purchase directly from Crosman?  Anyway the recoil on this gun is crazy.  It is throwing the scope backwards.   I picked up my Trail original .22 and it is super mild compared to this power plant.  I am wondering if I should have gotten a .22 and if that would have less violent kick?  I am thinking that this might be too much gun for .177 caliber.  I know heavier is probably better but it is shooting all the crosman lead pretty good it seems. 

[RobertMcC]

So I scoped the Summit with the Center Point 3x9x32 from Wally World.  Was shooting dead on close to 15 yards with out cleaning the barrel. Not sure if they do anything different to the gun when you purchase directly from Crosman?  Anyway the recoil on this gun is crazy.  It is throwing the scope backwards.   I picked up my Trail original .22 and it is super mild compared to this power plant.  I am wondering if I should have gotten a .22 and if that would have less violent kick?  I am thinking that this might be too much gun for .177 caliber.  I know heavier is probably better but it is shooting all the crosman lead pretty good it seems.

NP is much tamer than spring. I converted my Phantom from spring to NP and its much smoother.

If you want no recoil, get a C02 or pumper.

[seitg74]

Nope this thing thumps harder than any spring I own.  Hatsan Edge throws lead 800 for 20 lbs and it's more mild than this gun in recoil.

[Old Corps]

I agree that the recoil is a bit stronger than my Edges' or 95. not a biggie though. Shoots REALLY nice with the lighter spring.

Ed

BTW, I thought $159 from Midwest was a good deal, you stole yours! Nice Yamaha/Star you've got there.

[DOKF]

Nope this thing thumps harder than any spring I own.  Hatsan Edge throws lead 800 for 20 lbs and it's more mild than this gun in recoil.

My experiences are the exact opposite. 

My NP2 and other nitro piston rifles (NV and NP XL) are all far smoother than my coil springers of equivalent power (Optimus, D350, D460, HatPat).

Nothing in my arsenal comes close to thumping like the Hatsan.