What can I do to trigger?

[Hoosier Daddy]

When I first got my 1377, I did the classic trigger polish to improve it's feel / function.
 Now I have a new Crosman Genesis NP and I am looking at it's trigger assembly. I have read this gun may be made in China, it may be a Benji Trail NP mechanism in a Wood stock.  The manual that came with it is very generic for it seems to apply to all NP models.
It is advertised as a two stage trigger, and there is an adjustment screw you can see in the last pic. I have read on most of these two stage triggers the adjustment doesn't really do much.
Can anyone identify this trigger assembly so I can research information on disassembly and tuning? Maybe even a link to a thread here where one of you fine members have already been there / done that?
Last thing I want to do is go in blind and damage something, so am I better off to leave well enough alone?

[kahrguy]

Lots of good info on this subject on You Tube. I went with the bearing mod on my NP and am very happy with it. Lots of folks are sold on Charlie Datuna's trigger mod.

[ezman604]

Yep, order yourself a GRT-III. You won't regret it!!!

[Hoosier Daddy]

Thank you guys!
So by all outward appearances it looks to be a standard Crosman Trigger?
Off to check the GRT-III that I have "heard" talk of here on the forum but never really researched.

[mobilehomer]

I put a GRT in my NVD, all I can say is WOW!!! What a difference!!! For now, you can remove the lawyer spring, that will help a little. It is the spring that you can see the tail in you last picture.

[ezman604]

Typical Crosman style trigger, one of a couple they use. The GRT-III will make a world of difference, trust me. And thousands of others.
LOL

[Hoosier Daddy]

Well, all I can say is THANK YOU!
I just spent my lunch hour reading evrything on the GRT-III http://charliedatuna.com/GRT-III%20Trigger%20New.htm
Sure looks easy, even if there is an issue the troubleshooting page is awesome!
Now where did I put that $30.... 

[Old Corps]

I recently purchased my 5th trigger (3 GRTIIIs/2CBRs) from Cathy, I mean Charlie, and I agree it's the best improvement you can make to your rifle. The "bearing mod" will help a lot but the GRT is the best. That nice new Genesis deserves it!

Ed

[mentolio]

I've had some success polishing, building a "fat pin" spacer out of brass tubing from the local hobby shop, and adding a longer adjustment screw (while leaving the lawyer spring in). Fake two stage feel, pretty crisp and predictable let off, basically a lot better than delivered. Mod as described I think is better feeling and safer than the bearing mod, and just a bit heavier than a CDT (which is my ONLY complaint about the CDT...a little light for use in the field). Otherwise CDT is the way to go, less for hunting, more for target shooting, just my 2cents.

[Hoosier Daddy]

 After a fair bit of  email information from Roadworthy I now know there is mods that can be done to the stock trigger. Most of which are not perminent and could be "undone" to restore the trigger to original configuration. That lead to more research and found while a few report the GRT-III is too light, there are overwelmingly more positive reports on than negatives.
 I sent Cathy (CharlieDaTuna) $33 for the GRT-III yesterday and figure I have 7-10 days to play around.
For the future reference of others, I found these videos on cheap mods to the trigger...
First, the longer adjustment screw HERE
Next the R/C roller bearing HERE in this one he also removes the "Lawyer Spring".
 FYI, there is also a video on youtube done by a kid who has a mouth that would make a Sailor blush, but it's so horrible I wont link it. Suffice to say He uses a lock washer instead of a bearing.
For now I am in the middle of refinishing the stock so while I wait for the GRT-III that is being completed. I might get to "The Big City" where there is a Hobby Shop and pick up the M3x10mm screw and bearing, then I'll follow up here with my results on all 3 mods.

[DevilsLuck]

At first glance; it looks like the trigger in my Crosman Storm.

[Hoosier Daddy]

Probably so David, I've learned this "Theoben trigger" it's used on many Gamo / Benjamin / Crosman / and MORE!

[DevilsLuck]

Probably so David, I've learned this "Theoben trigger" it's used on many Gamo / Benjamin / Crosman / and MORE!

So. That's what a "Theoben" trigger is. I've wondered about that.

[Old Corps]

After a fair bit of  email information from Roadworthy I now know there is mods that can be done to the stock trigger. Most of which are not perminent and could be "undone" to restore the trigger to original configuration. That lead to more research and found while a few report the GRT-III is too light, there are overwelmingly more positive reports on than negatives.
 I sent Cathy (CharlieDaTuna) $33 for the GRT-III yesterday and figure I have 7-10 days to play around.
For the future reference of others, I found these videos on cheap mods to the trigger...
First, the longer adjustment screw HERE
Next the R/C roller bearing HERE in this one he also removes the "Lawyer Spring".
 FYI, there is also a video on youtube done by a kid who has a mouth that would make a Sailor blush, but it's so horrible I wont link it. Suffice to say He uses a lock washer instead of a bearing.
For now I am in the middle of refinishing the stock so while I wait for the GRT-III that is being completed. I might get to "The Big City" where there is a Hobby Shop and pick up the M3x10mm screw and bearing, then I'll follow up here with my results on all 3 mods.

I've done the bearing fix & it made the trigger much better but still got the GRT which makes excellent.

Yeah, I wouldn't link that kid's video either, I couldn't watch the whole thing. He thinks those F-bombs make him a man......

Ed

[lefteyeshot]

GRTIII

[svaz]

True, the kid needs to work on his verbalization skills, but the lock washers are readily available at Ace Hardware, or wherever, and a couple of them, side-by-side, makes a world of difference.