HW50s for the yard?

[glorygunner]

So I've had a rws 460 for a while now and I really love it, powerful, acurate, well made. How ever my neighbor is complaining a lot about the noise. I was thinking of selling my 460 to get a more backyard friendly gun. I was thinking about the beeman r9, but I read it wasn't that much quieter. I was looking at the HW30s but the the low power is giving me some doubts since I want to get rid of some rabbits and squirrels now and then. Besides, it's out of stock at PA. Then I started to look into a HW50s in either .22 or .177.  I was wondering is this is a good option for my needs and how quiet it is in comparison with HW30 and r9.

[Petey]

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[Petey]

The 50s is louder than the 30s.....still more quiet than the 460 and   You can certainly pest with a 30. You just need to be on your game so far as pellet placement. But then , that should always be the case.
I would suggest a 50s  in  .177 . It has a nice balance of power and weight and is a real pleasure to shoot...got two of em.

30-R9 comparison....... A R9 in .22 will be more quiet than in .177.... but still makes a fair bit of noise. I 'd say go 50s.  If your neighbor still has issues with it try to work something out with him ...like shooting during certain times etc....  Just make sure you're legal and he won't have a whole lot against ya.
I have a neighbor that's a royal pain....part of the reason we're now looking to  sell and move.

Happy Shootin!
Petey


BTW--- Welcome To The GTA!

[glorygunner]

Thanks for the reply! Does your neighbor complain when you shoot your 50s? I was wondering because I feel my neighbor falls into the same category as yours.

[fishhuntmike]

How about one with a muzzle shroud like the HW97k?
Tx200, or Prosport?

All three are significantly quieter than my R1.  The .22 prosport is possibly less than a Red Ryder BB gun.

[Sfttailrdr46]

  The TX200 is fairly quiet  but if you have neighbor problems a nice pcp like the Marauder Gen II in .177 witha decent heavy pellet will fill the bill and the Loudest thing will be the pellet impacting the target

[glorygunner]

  I wish I could one of those guns you guys just mentioned. I've been drooling over the pro-sport for a LONG time but $780 is alot &&&! I was hoping to to be able the fund the new rifle entirely with the 460 you see.

[JimL911]

The noise is mostly mechanical. Here is a link with decibel ratings http://www.straightshooters.com/decibel-ranking-of-airguns.html
I find the only really noticeable difference is between the 30 and 95. The difference between 30 and 50 is barely noticeable, the same when I switch from 50 to 95 all three in .177.
Be aware of the cocking effort of the 50. It is a bit stout for the power. Not much less than the 95.
If you decide on the 50 definitely get it in .177.
I would suggest getting the 95 in .20 or .22. The larger calibres are a little quieter. Swap out the spring for a 50 spring and this will put you @ 12 fpe, a little quieter still. This gives you 50 power with the easier cocking effort of the 95, with the ability to return to full power just by swapping a spring.

[Petey]

Thanks for the reply! Does your neighbor complain when you shoot your 50s? I was wondering because I feel my neighbor falls into the same category as yours.

No , not the 50s....... But that only applies to my situation..   How close is your neighbor? Or , can shoot in a different direction so the report doesn't go his way? That may a be cheaper option. Is the noise the real issue? I hope it is .
If the guy is just annoyed with fact you're shooting you may never appease him.
 

Petey

[glorygunner]

My backyard is about 3/4 acre. The problem is when I was shooting the 460 it really is loud. I could shoot steel spinners and and I would not be able to hear the impact. Along with that the neighbors dog would pretty much go nuts every time I pulled the trigger.

[Sfttailrdr46]

My backyard is about 3/4 acre. The problem is when I was shooting the 460 it really is loud. I could shoot steel spinners and and I would not be able to hear the impact. Along with that the neighbors dog would pretty much go nuts every time I pulled the trigger.

Ok here goes it is perfectly legal to shoot your pellet rifle in your backyard in Suffolk LI NY other members there do so. Second point you are required to provide an adequate  safe backstop. Lastly pellets cannot leave your property . Beyond that you are not responsible to maintain hospital level sound in your backyard from 7am to 10 or 11 pm. Let your neighbor teach his dog to not be annoying and bark at every little sound

[T-Higgs]

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Haha. Tell him you will get a quieter rifle when he gets a quieter dog.

[glorygunner]

LOL guys thanks! That might have just been some really useful info!!

[T-Higgs]

I can only comment on the 30 as I have one (r7). It is Considerably  more quiet than any other rifle I have. I did A tune it with a Vortek kit.  It is by far the most backyard friendly gun I've ever heard. Some say the 50 isn't much louder. I wonder if they mean after it has been tuned I've had my eye on the 50 for some time now as I think the extra power would be extremely usefull. I like shooting a bit further than 20-25 yards. The R7 just makes a quiet "thup", pellet impact is louder than the rifle itself. If a 50 is close to that, it would be perfect.  I would be nice if you could find someone close who had one for you to shoot and compare.

[bReTt]

My backyard is about 3/4 acre. The problem is when I was shooting the 460 it really is loud. I could shoot steel spinners and and I would not be able to hear the impact. Along with that the neighbors dog would pretty much go nuts every time I pulled the trigger.

Ok here goes it is perfectly legal to shoot your pellet rifle in your backyard in Suffolk LI NY other members there do so. Second point you are required to provide an adequate  safe backstop. Lastly pellets cannot leave your property . Beyond that you are not responsible to maintain hospital level sound in your backyard from 7am to 10 or 11 pm. Let your neighbor teach his dog to not be annoying and bark at every little sound

Be sure to check this information with your local law enforcement agency and ask them any other questions about about your situation.  When the LE officers show up at your door, just saying "I read that I could on a forum" won't hold much.  Ignorance of the law in not an excuse.   Neighbors can make your life wonderful or miserable, I have had them both.  Now I have the wonderful one, he just turned 80 today! 

As far as noise is concerned, the 95 is louder than the 30 AND my .22 R9 (95) is louder than the .177 95.  The R9 is 16.5 fpe and the 95 is at 13.5 fpe so there is a difference in the power output with the louder rifle being the higher powered. 

I would suggest getting the 95 in .20 or .22. The larger calibres are a little quieter. Swap out the spring for a 50 spring and this will put you @ 12 fpe, a little quieter still. This gives you 50 power with the easier cocking effort of the 95, with the ability to return to full power just by swapping a spring.

I like the suggestion here to get the 95 and swap springs or just cut the factory one down to bring the 95 cocking effort down and the power down to around the 12-14 fpe level.  That is the same thing that I did for my 95 and I personally love it like that. 

I made this video of my 95 shooting at the 13.5 fpe level and it may be helpful to give you an idea of what the noise level is.  It sounds louder shooting the rifle because of the noise/vibrations being transferred directly into your head! 

[Korak-again]

The .177  HW30 is capable of taking rabbits cleanly.  A  20 yard range with an accurate head shot is all that is needed.

[glorygunner]

Alright thanks for the replys guys! I've got my eyes on the HW30s, will probally be ordering pretty soon

[Yak54]

Since I own both the 30S & the 50S I'll comment.  My 50S is about 4-5 DB louder than my 30S, and if you throw in a comparison to the 95, my R9 (HW95) is a couple of DB louder than the 50S. After I had my 50S tuned and a Vortek kit added, it got a little quieter.