Quote from: Pellet Hunter .22 on January 01, 2014, 09:47:23 PMI will tell you one thing- if I ever cross over to the darkside I will definitely buy used. I imagine I probably won't by another new airgun period, except maybe from flying dragon with a full tune. With the deals that come up in the classifieds, I don't think any of the other retailers can hang. Lord knows I have lost enough money buying new and selling later on.The choir asks if you could be quiet please.
I will tell you one thing- if I ever cross over to the darkside I will definitely buy used. I imagine I probably won't by another new airgun period, except maybe from flying dragon with a full tune. With the deals that come up in the classifieds, I don't think any of the other retailers can hang. Lord knows I have lost enough money buying new and selling later on.
Quote from: John B on January 01, 2014, 06:56:46 PM Knowing that for some strange reason everyone wants new-except some old timers and folks who shoot matchs- I'll stick with my used advize and +1 that idea of a used BSA Ultra. I had looked at the Ultra, but I wasn't sure if it was easy to up the power. All I saw on PA was it regulated for 12fpe, and I don't know if it would be easy for someone without access to a shop to adjust for more power. I definitely want 20+ fpe.I would actually prefer buying used (especially from GTA members) because then I'd know what I'm getting (and I sometimes get bored searching for the right pellet... I know, I'm lame). I just want a light rifle with 20+ fpe, multishot, good shot count, and that doesn't feel like a broomstick in the field. Adjustable power would be nice, but isn't a deal-breaker.Quote from: Nomadic Pirate on January 01, 2014, 06:26:30 PMThe Rainstorm at 39" and 7.2 pounds is a pretty handy little carbine, can be easily detuned by changing hammer springs, and with the big air reservoir at low powers it gives tons of shots.The rainstorm definitely intrigues me, and especially because...If I went with a 510 carbine, I'd still need to add an LDC to make it backyard friendly, so I might as well start with the full-length 510, in my thinking. If that's the case, then I might as well look at other sub-8-pound guns that are less than 40"--with some using an add-on LDC would be close to the same length as a standard 510. Even a Scorpion or an S200 with a LDC should bring me to the general length of a 510.Am I forgetting something, or does that make sense?So for right now, I'm thinking used, in these choices:- standard-length 510- a tuned-up Ultra with an LDC or a working shroud- a scorpion with a stubby LDC (or a shroud?)- a rainstorm (maybe some work on the shroud? I haven't heard one)- a tuned-up s200 with a stubby LDC- I guess I could go with a Synrod if it's got good accuracy, but why would someone let a good grouper go?The one thing I really like about the 510 is the adjustable power. That's not super-important, though, if adjusting other rifles isn't too hard (I need to shoot in a metal building at times, and then hit ground squirrels at 50+ yards at others).Bang for the buck, I think this is where I'm stuck. I can't see getting an FX, etc. for $800...Am I way off base?
Knowing that for some strange reason everyone wants new-except some old timers and folks who shoot matchs- I'll stick with my used advize and +1 that idea of a used BSA Ultra.
The Rainstorm at 39" and 7.2 pounds is a pretty handy little carbine, can be easily detuned by changing hammer springs, and with the big air reservoir at low powers it gives tons of shots.
Ultra has a 12" barrel which limits the power a bit. You can get 25+ fpe but the shot count will suffer. Scorpion is more powerful, with 18.5" barrel 33+ fpe for 30+ shots and even the carbine version with 15" barrel is capable of 30 fpe. To up the power on Ultra you need to drill out the transfer port and to get a stiffer hammer spring. For newer SE models you can get HUMA regulators which are rather easy to install and can be taken off if needed.Both are threaded for LDC and Huub makes shrouds for them that are as quiet as your average (*^% while being some 2" shorter. The good thing about those BSAs is that you can fit in a 28mm shroud which makes them rather effective when compared to 22mm or 25mm shrouds that you can fit in most other guns.
The Flying Dragon PCP that Mike builds is not multishot, thought that is being engineered now, but is lightweight and easily adjustable to power levels greater than 20 fpe. . I have one on the way so can't provide first hand knowledge yet, but will be posting first impressions as soon as I receive it. There are a few post on GTA from users that have received theirs and all have been quite favorable.It is a no frills gun, but very inexpensive ($100.00 for the gun, $240.00 for pump and gun shipped) and Mike has a great reputation for his guns and standing behind what he sells. Might be worth a look see.
Quote from: Rescue35 on January 01, 2014, 09:37:08 PMLight weight, powerfull, repeater. Sounds like a Sumatra carbine is in your future. I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I really don't like the way they look. I'm also not into the lever action. If it was a standard bolt or a side-lever, I might waffle on the looks department.
Light weight, powerfull, repeater. Sounds like a Sumatra carbine is in your future.