Daisy pellets are keyholing?

[45Bravo]

Strange I should run across this thread today.

Last night I cleaned the barrel on my 24 inch .177 2400 crosman.

I laid out my tin of cp boxed pellets (easier to seal up the tin at the range, and only carry 250 or so to the range rather than the whole box.) on the kitchen table.

My wife in setting the table for breakfast moved them.

I went to the range, and realized I was missing my tin.

The only pellets I had on hand was a 300 round container of Daisy pellets, (100 pointed, 100 wadcutters, and 100 hollow points) I had bought them for $3 to try them out.

The rifle is sighted in at 50 yards with crosman premier domes from the box.

When I fired the first shot from a clean barrel, I watched my pellet hit the X ring,
I thought Oh yea, I am going to like this!
The next pellet hit the 8 ring (a 2 inch black) and for the next 30 pointed pellets, I never even touched the black again.
 Some of them even missed the 8.5x11 paper. At 50 yards.

I moved closer, to 25 yards, and went to the wadcutters.
They were accurate enough to hit 7.62x39 (sks/ak47) empty hulls reliably.
I shot all 100 of the wadcutters, accurate enough for pinky sized targets at 25 yards.

I moved to the hollow points.

They were accurate enough for empty shotgun shells out to 25-35 yards reliably..

I tried the pointed pellets again, at 25 yards at the same shells I had been hitting, and the impacts were all over the place.

So apparently, my gun kind of likes the HP's, I would buy more of the wadcutters for backyard fun.

But won't waste any more of the pointed pellets in this rifle.

Here are the photos of the pellets, and the nice 3 divider carrier, (I like this carrier)

And the 50 yard target, 1x, and it went downhill from there..

If they all would have been like the first, oh yea baby!!

[Bryan Heimann]

In .22, the pointed Daisy ammo was not bad in the Trail I had. About an inch at 15 yards with a couple of flyers.  Of course with a proper rest I could drill a 2.5" spinner out around 70 yards with fair consistency using H&N barracudas.They actually shot pretty good in the Daisy 822 I had as well.  But the skirts had to be fixed on about every pellet, because they were so easily damaged.  I used a field point stuck on a wooden dowel for a handle.  Made them shoot quite a bit better.  That said, other than those two guns, I have never been able to make them shoot well in anything else.  They have been horrible, lol. 

[HYspd]

the small size sounds like a smooth bore thing to me...

[TriggerHappyDude]

i only trust JSB and RWS - JSB exact heavies for long distance and RWS basic wadcutters for 10m rifle, and JSB Match midweight wadcutters for 10m air pistol. Didn't even know that daisy made pellets

[tweedking]

my daisy880 likes the wad cutter,and daisy pointed......long live daisy. cheep and picky.....

5M=one hole group....

long live daisy 880.....................hopefully

[Bryan Heimann]

I really wish they'd bring back an anniversary edition of the 880 with a metal pump arm and receiver- and even a smoothbore barrel for better accuracy with BB's.  Or maybe if Crosman put out a similar 766.  Because we know Daisy pellets are not so great hehehe.  Would be nice to have a legitimate 700 fps BB shooter that could keep em in an inch at say, ten yards.  Daisy figured out how to do it with the really low powered Avanti models.  But maybe that is the secret- low power.  The daisy pellets obviousely don't do well if they shoot much faster than a cheap MSP can sling them.  I wonder if the trick is to put an upward spin on the bb, a little "English" on it.  Apparently it works on paintball guns.  I do believe the smooth barrels on the Crosman 760 hav a couple spots in the bore intentionally put there to boost accuracy with BB's..

[stonykill]

  Statements such as "junk" annoy me. Is QC what it could be? Not likely.

   Daisy round nose pile up on each other at 10 yards with my P17 offhand. They shoot almost as tight out of my 880 as Crosman heavydomes do out of it. My Powerline 856 really likes the hollowpoints out of the daisy sample pack. Actually prefers them over any pellet other than the Crsman heavy domes from the box.

   Now my luck with the Daisy wadcutters hasn't been so good. Could just be my tin. Not sure. BUT load those wadcutters in my P17 and every 3rd or 4th one slides right out the barrel. The 880 and 856 will shoot ok ish with them. Good enough for plinking random cans but not for target shooting.

    Bottom line for me.... they work well in some AG's and are not junk. BUT there is a reason they are cheaper than most ANY other pellet. Think about it for a 1/2 a second. $3 cheaper than CPHP's are for 500 count. At that price you certainly should not expect match accuracy. That would be plain silly

[45Bravo]

Once I have a rifle set up, and I am confident in its consistency with a given pellet at several distances.

I rarely shoot paper after that.

Mostly reactive targets, (empty rifle or pistol or shotgun shells)
At random distances from 5 or 10 yards all the way out to 50-60 yards.

With my 4-16 mildot scope, it helps me with range estimation, hold over/hold under.

And when you connect with a .40 caliber hull at 50 yards, it is very satisfying..

The daisy pellets were just an experiment, I really wanted the 3 compartment holder, the pellets are just for shooting, and it just happened that the wadcutters worked.

The others will be tried in another air rifle, or let my nephew burn the in the crosman 761xl..

The daisy wadcutters will find a place in my backyard plinking (30 yard max)
But my more expensive pellets for more "formal" shooting...