I bent my barrell while adjusting the trigger.

[WHITEFANG]

Paul68:
I for one am one that has always pushed the safety button here as well. I was the one as I stated the warning about the new trigger being shipped to the USA with regards to how dangerous it was. So if you are barking at me  go right ahead as others have pocked fun at the trigger topic and the krytox as well. I know why they were scored. Very good that you did clear the air for others. Sorry if I took it wrong???
I always claim that just because it worked for me do not expect it to work for you and once again I post NO UNSAFE HELP and state that I do not reccomend anyone try what I do.. I do not recommend using a hammer on a barrel or even a tree. I have the tools to work the barrel and it is SAFE and the other tools are the correct tools for the job. Also if you are not equipped to work a barrel find some one that can. If you have no clue of a trigger don't mess with it. NO 2 triggers of the same make are even the same.


FANG

[Paul68]

Paul68:
I for one am one that has always pushed the safety button here as well. I was the one as I stated the warning about the new trigger being shipped to the USA with regards to how dangerous it was. So if you are barking at me  go right ahead as others have pocked fun at the trigger topic and the krytox as well. I know why they were scored. Very good that you did clear the air for others. Sorry if I took it wrong???
I always claim that just because it worked for me do not expect it to work for you and once again I post NO UNSAFE HELP and state that I do not reccomend anyone try what I do.. I do not recommend using a hammer on a barrel or even a tree. I have the tools to work the barrel and it is SAFE and the other tools are the correct tools for the job. Also if you are not equipped to work a barrel find some one that can. If you have no clue of a trigger don't mess with it. NO 2 triggers of the same make are even the same.


FANG

I'm not barking.

I chimed in because when I see references to persons being "scorned" for doing something that as we can see from threads like this very much can be dangerous, it feels important to me that the record is kept clear and the facts straight. In particular because I too was "one" who warned specifically about changing the screws and what could happen. They were not "scorned", or otherwise treated unfairly or with malice as the word seems to suggest. They were warned, and later got banned because they chose to argue about it, push buttons, and exacerbate the issue with new threads, instead of just respect the admins.


I did not say you advocated using a tree or a hammer. It was just a VERY slight bit of hyperbole (because folks have posted about doing just those things), just as was mentioned in this very thread about using body weight to bend the barrel on a folded rifle, which is also wrong.


Moot anyways, since the OP is sending the gun out, which in this case I think is probably the smartest move.

[WHITEFANG]

Thanks for clearing things up.
I was only referencing the fact of talking trigger adjustments in general. I used the word too loosely and it was just comparing now and then. Nothing on BANNING. No intent of anything. Just as you!! Trigger work even for those who are familiar with triggers can have unexpected events. Only thing is when I cried wolf on the HATSAN SCREW INTRO TO THE USA NO ONE REALLY stated concern to my warning. Besides you can bend a HATSAN barrel without a trigger malfunction. Theey have a heavy spring and you can bend the cocking rod as well.
I have respected all the moderators and to date have not been notified of crossing the line.
I am out off this.

THANKS
FANG

[SpringerMan]

What's being missed, is that it was the combination of telling people to change the screws, and the lack of understanding of how the trigger works, and how to properly adjust it, and exposing novices and the uninitiated to a potentially dangerous practice that was the problem.

The quatro is a touchy trigger design that once longer screws are installed, can VERY easily be adjusted to an unsafe setting. Far more so than triggers like the Rekord or T05-T06. Yes, any trigger can be made unsafe. With the Quatro however, it is almost TOO EASY to make it so.

After my own testing with the screw mod and completely reworking several Quatro assemblies, and seeing more than a few mentions of random trigger conditions caused by others trying the headless screws, it's pretty obvious to me WHY Hatsan initially was hesitant to ship the guns with the headless screws.

Now that Hatsan has relented and allowed some to ship with the headless screws does not mean the warnings against this mod were not reasonable or are now invalid. It simply means the condition can now exist straight out of the box, and now no one can be responsible except those trying to adjust them, rather than those advising the mod without taking into consideration the potential for possible damage and serious injury. The GTA is about safety above all else, and the trigger mod can produce an unsafe condition, hence it was not welcome. That simple.

Paul,

This is NOT about the previous "trigger screw mod" on GTA. It is about the "factory" screws.

Since Hatsan will soon be making all of their individual parts available, here in the USA, the issue of trigger screws ( factory ) and Quattro Trigger assembly / dis-assembly / adjustment. In this situation someone might be merely replacing a worn  or broken part, right up to assembling a complete Quattro Trigger assembly from parts.

This LINK is to an EXCELLENT tutorial on the dis-assembly / assembly, and SOME adjustment for the Hatsan Quattro trigger.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1301669829/Hatsan+Quattro+trigger+

HOWEVER, it doesn't cover what to do to, in case the trigger screws have been previously mis-adjusted or removed entirely. As a result, no information on a "safe starting setup" is available for the screws themselves. Hatsan's "all the way in" is vague, since headless screws have no means to indicate  that  they are "all the way in".

Would you please write up something on how to correctly do the "initial setup" for the trigger screws, so that a safe starting point is clearly demonstrated for people do this themselves ? Since you said you have quite a bit of experience with the Quattro trigger, this would be a great help to airgunners and their safety.

Thanks !

[nced]

Well I guess the rats are going to safe for a few days until I get my rifle fixed I was adjusting the trigger and I got it too light. I knew it was on the edge and had hold to the barrel but when I reached for a pellet it let loose. It didn't bend it bad but it's bad enough. Maybe the barrel can be fixed maybe not. I'm going to send it to Rick Eutsler and I may have him clean it up and go over it while it's there. On the bright side I'll probably get a better rifle out of the deal. On the down side it's a hard expensive lesson learned.

When you are messing with the Quatro trigger be careful because you can get it too light and it can cause it to let loose.

I may just have to go buy that Benjamin 392

Bryan

Well......I use this rig to bend my R9 barrel so the point of impact is close to the aim point at 30 yards after optically centering the scope.......

Perhaps a similar setup would work for you.

[bbv13]

Well I guess the rats are going to safe for a few days until I get my rifle fixed I was adjusting the trigger and I got it too light. I knew it was on the edge and had hold to the barrel but when I reached for a pellet it let loose. It didn't bend it bad but it's bad enough. Maybe the barrel can be fixed maybe not. I'm going to send it to Rick Eutsler and I may have him clean it up and go over it while it's there. On the bright side I'll probably get a better rifle out of the deal. On the down side it's a hard expensive lesson learned.

When you are messing with the Quatro trigger be careful because you can get it too light and it can cause it to let loose.

I may just have to go buy that Benjamin 392

Bryan

Well......I use this rig to bend my R9 barrel so the point of impact is close to the aim point at 30 yards after optically centering the scope.......

Perhaps a similar setup would work for you.

Very simple and perfect.

I like it and in the future I may just make one for myself just to tweak a barrel.

I'm getting mine fixed because I don't have the time to mess with it and I want to keep the warranty intact. Life is just way to busy for me now. I use to deer hunt all the time but I gave it up along with a lot of other stuff for the almighty dollar and getting my kids through college. I still have some work to do but there will come a day? I suspect you may be a carpenter like me or a wood worker of some kind? That's a perfect jig for what you are using it for of a major screw up like I had.

Bryan

Bryan